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Hagel must be defeated in the next GOP Primary!!!
AP | 1/11/07 | Self (vanity)

Posted on 01/11/2007 11:39:56 AM PST by The South Texan

Excuse the vanity, but Chuck Hagel has really gotten under my skin. You Nebraska Freepers need to get busy and find a well known Republican in that state to run against this Rino in the next GOP Priamry. I am tired of crap like this from this AP story.

"Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska told Rice the president's plan was "the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam, if it's carried out."

Rice engaged in a tense exchange with Hagel, a Vietnam veteran and longtime critic of Bush's Iraq policy, disputing his characterization of Bush's buildup as an "escalation."

"Putting in 22,000 more troops is not an escalation?" Hagel asked. "I think, senator, escalation is not just a matter of how many numbers you put in."

"Would you call it a decrease?" Hagel asked.

"I would call it, senator, an augmentation that allows the Iraqis to deal with this very serious problem that they have in Baghdad," she said.

Hagel told Rice, "Madame Secretary, Iraqis are killing Iraqis. We are in a civil war. This is sectarian violence out of control."

She disputed that Iraq was in the throes of a civil war. To that, Hagel said, "To sit there and say that, that's just not true."


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Please get this guy out of the Senate, Nebraska. Good grief who needs Rats when we have Pubbies like this in the Senate.
1 posted on 01/11/2007 11:40:01 AM PST by The South Texan
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To: The South Texan

I plan to work towards that end!!!


2 posted on 01/11/2007 11:40:28 AM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: The South Texan

That's a totally garbage and pointless exchange...reminiscent of the definition of "is".


3 posted on 01/11/2007 11:42:11 AM PST by rhombus
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To: conservativehusker

"I plan to work towards that end!!!"

Good luck.
My fear is he will be replaced with a lib.


4 posted on 01/11/2007 11:42:48 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: The South Texan

Count me in!!!! please post again once a organization to defeat senator hagel is known.


5 posted on 01/11/2007 11:46:12 AM PST by geo40xyz (Born a democRAT, dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing DemocRAT)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

Hagel thinks he`s going to be the next President. Somebody needs to call him and tell him it ain`t going to happen.


6 posted on 01/11/2007 11:46:25 AM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

I can't see him being replaced by a Lib..we tend to elect Dems who have a track record statewide (Nelson)and I don't see one of those floating around...

The problem i see is that Nebraskans seem to be a loyal bunch as a whole..but the republicans did bypass the Legend (Osborne) during the governor primary so there is a little hope...Maybe we can get Coach to run for Senate!


7 posted on 01/11/2007 11:48:28 AM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: The South Texan
Hagel is one of the Republican party's "special" children.
8 posted on 01/11/2007 11:51:32 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: The South Texan
Anyone But ...
9 posted on 01/11/2007 11:51:56 AM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: The South Texan

Really now. What the difference between Chuck Hagel and Bob Kerrey?


10 posted on 01/11/2007 11:52:51 AM PST by D-Chivas
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To: The South Texan

I have always thought of the guy as a "mole" sent in by the liberals to win office (as a RINO) in a 'red' state.


11 posted on 01/11/2007 12:03:03 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: The South Texan
I hate Chuck Hagel. A bigger picture also has become clear. republican control of the Congress was sabotaged by liberal republicans especially in the Senate, such as Hagel, Snowe, Collins, Chafee. These people in my view are kooks, although many can only get elected in their states by being liberals. There's a long list of really stupid things they do that are not in the nation's best interests.

The bottom line is the GOP was never as conservative as people hoped, and the conservatives alone did not have the votes.

Brings me back to my big picture pet peeve. By not really attacking the left as dangerous and embarrassing, republicans allowed the democrat party and much of the GOP to drift far left, and that placed the nation in danger when the dems got back in power.

12 posted on 01/11/2007 12:03:11 PM PST by Williams
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To: conservativehusker

As a graduate of UNO I will donate to make sure that he is defeated. Let me know please.


13 posted on 01/11/2007 12:08:36 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: The South Texan

Be careful now.

There are many here on FR who in two years will be telling you that you HAVE TO vote for Hagel because he is a "Republican".


14 posted on 01/11/2007 12:09:46 PM PST by oldbill
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To: x1stcav

There needs to be an organized effort to get all "RINO's" and any other Republican politician with no gonads thrown out of office. These are the creeps that cost us the November election and gave us this Liberal Twilight Zone of Total Insanity.


15 posted on 01/11/2007 12:10:36 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: The South Texan

I don't understand the mentality of these people. They're apparently unwilling to fight a war under any circumstances.


16 posted on 01/11/2007 12:10:50 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: The South Texan
Better threaten the RNC also. They support him with dollars.

No more dollars to the RNC until Hagel is gone?

17 posted on 01/11/2007 12:11:04 PM PST by technomage (You get what you want one step at a time)
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To: x1stcav

Ditto!


18 posted on 01/11/2007 12:12:03 PM PST by griswold3
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To: Williams

IMO, Liberals get elected because the GOP doesn't tell it like it is. The American people need to be educated on what will happen to our country if these creeps stay in office.


19 posted on 01/11/2007 12:12:50 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree completely. We'll lose the Senate for a few more election cycles but at least we'll have a leaner, meaner Republican caucus there.


20 posted on 01/11/2007 12:12:58 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: popdonnelly

They have no mentality to understand. They're utter and complete morons.


21 posted on 01/11/2007 12:13:30 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: The South Texan

I don't understand the mentality of these people. They're apparently unwilling to fight a war under any circumstances.


22 posted on 01/11/2007 12:14:18 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: technomage

I haven't given any money to the RNC or the Republican Seante Campaign Committee in maybe 10 years. I do, however, contribute to individual candidates. I never wanted any of my money to go to the like of Spectre or Chaffee.


23 posted on 01/11/2007 12:14:54 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: technomage

The RNC needs to have an infusion of testosterone. There's a definite lack of gonads throughout the leadership. Not a single one of them has the guts of any one of our troops. IMO, there's not a single politician in DC worthy of licking the boots of our troops. The DC crowd is worthless.


24 posted on 01/11/2007 12:15:26 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: The South Texan
I lived in Nebraska when Hagel was elected and even voted for him in his first election. That is about the only vote I have ever regretted.

I had an opportunity to say something to him in person a few months after he was first elected. I said something like "please do whatever you can to send back our money," He had no idea that I was talking about tax money.
25 posted on 01/11/2007 12:18:52 PM PST by rightsmart
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Out of 1,000 possible examples I would pick president Bush being polite to the democrats while they call him - literally - a racist murderer and genocidal ethnic cleanser (Katrina).

New prosecutors are taught to point to the defendant and say to their face what they did. Because if THEY are not willing to confront the defendant directly, neither will the jurors. The same goes for politics. If republican leaders won't confront the democrats the public will not do it for them.

26 posted on 01/11/2007 12:23:17 PM PST by Williams
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

What's the difference?


27 posted on 01/11/2007 12:29:22 PM PST by Antique Gal (Antique Gal)
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To: Antique Gal

"What's the difference?"

LOL Good point.
Maybe just the majority.


28 posted on 01/11/2007 1:00:45 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: The South Texan
I have a better chance of getting the nomination in 08' then the good senator from the great state of fantasy land.
29 posted on 01/11/2007 1:03:31 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: The South Texan
You Nebraska Freepers need to get busy and find a well known Republican in that state to run against this Rino in the next GOP Priamry.

Why just target Nebraskans?? FReepers from all 50 states need to buckle down and target ALL RINOs in the House AND Senate for replacement in '08. The status quo isn't good enough and we need strong conservatives who are capable of representing conservative values and standing up to the tactics of the leftists. It isn't just Nebraska, RINOS from all across the country are stinking up the Congress and its time we sent them some air fresheners!!!

30 posted on 01/11/2007 1:24:15 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: x1stcav

Same here, X. I've told them 100 times that I wasn't giving nationally until I saw Republicans with backbone in the Senate.
Unfortunately, I helped Mel Martinez get elected here in Florida. He has done well with most things except immigration. I am tolerating him and sending lots of emails his way.
(BTW, my husband was in the 1st CAV in VN.)


31 posted on 01/11/2007 1:24:16 PM PST by jch10
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If he was in RVN we're about the same age.


32 posted on 01/11/2007 1:28:52 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: x1stcav

He is 62...was drafted at 23.


33 posted on 01/11/2007 2:19:23 PM PST by jch10
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To: The South Texan
Everyone of these RINOs who are bashing Bush will look like total jackasses if this troop augmentation works but we wouldn't know unless it's given a real shot. For the ones that don't support the increase and don't support an immediate withdrawal must think everything is ok. If they do support immediate withdrawal then they are defeatist and should just admit so. If they support the increase then they support the CIC and the Constitution that gives him the right to perform necessary military tactics.
34 posted on 01/11/2007 2:38:57 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: The South Texan
Escalation = Vietnam

Augmentation = Breasts

35 posted on 01/11/2007 2:48:47 PM PST by x
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To: YOUGOTIT
I have spoken to a former Hagel campaign worker and they will not support him anymore!

We need to start a campaign to get his sorry a$$ out and fast!
36 posted on 01/11/2007 3:00:06 PM PST by Angelas
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To: The South Texan
Amen brother. Start with his local membership in any and all conservative orgs and work your way up to expulsion from the republican party.
37 posted on 01/11/2007 3:04:22 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: jch10

He was there probably just before I was. I'm 61 but went in after college.


38 posted on 01/11/2007 3:08:15 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: x1stcav
Like Chuck knows foreign policy?

He is an opportunist but a poor and transparent one. best. He probably believes this outrageous statement will make him a player in the nomination race, but no!

So don't screw it up FR.

39 posted on 01/11/2007 3:26:17 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: The South Texan

Jeff Fortunberry for Senate!


40 posted on 01/11/2007 3:29:13 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: The South Texan

Whats his conservative rating?


41 posted on 01/11/2007 3:30:07 PM PST by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: capt. norm

In fairness to Hagel, he's excellent on spending issues. He's just horrible on foreign policy. He's basically a Buchannanite.


42 posted on 01/11/2007 3:30:40 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: The South Texan
What is worse he knows that this is BS. We have had higher troop levels in the past and then drawn them down. Escalation was what we did in 1961 in Germany after the Berlin Wall went up, to enable the Bundeswehr to provide a sufficient defense. And the troop levels that were established then were generally maintained until the 1990's.
43 posted on 01/11/2007 3:36:53 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: x1stcav
I haven't given any money to the RNC or the Republican Seante Campaign Committee in maybe 10 years.

That is fine. But you need to do one more thing (if you are not already) and do it over and over and over:

Tell the RNC, both local chapters and national, that you refuse to give them monies and why. Do it once a month, once a week, etc.

When they start receiving hundres, maybe thousands, of messages like this, maybe, just maybe, they will start to listen.

44 posted on 01/11/2007 5:42:08 PM PST by technomage (You get what you want one step at a time)
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To: The South Texan
Add Congressman Ron Paul to your get rid of list to get rid of:

Congressman Ron Paul, before the US House of Representatives, January 5, 2007

Mr. Speaker, Saddam Hussein is Dead. So are Three Thousand Americans.

The regime in Iraq has been changed. Yet victory will not be declared: not only does the war go on, it’s about to escalate. Obviously the turmoil in Iraq is worse than ever, and most Americans no longer are willing to tolerate the costs, both human and economic, associated with this war.

We have been in Iraq for 45 months. Many more Americans have been killed in Iraq than were killed in the first 45 months of our war in Vietnam. I was in the U.S. Air Force in 1965, and I remember well when President Johnson announced a troop surge in Vietnam to hasten victory. That war went on for another decade, and by the time we finally got out 60,000 Americans had died. God knows we should have gotten out ten years earlier. “Troop surge” meant serious escalation.

The election is over and Americans have spoken. Enough is enough! They want the war ended and our troops brought home. But the opposite likely will occur, with bipartisan support. Up to 50,000 more troops will be sent. The goal no longer is to win, but simply to secure Baghdad! So much has been spent with so little to show for it.

Who possibly benefits from escalating chaos in Iraq? Neoconservatives unabashedly have written about how chaos presents opportunities for promoting their goals. Certainly Osama bin Laden has benefited from the turmoil in Iraq, as have the Iranian Shiites who now are better positioned to take control of southern Iraq.

Yes, Saddam Hussein is dead, and only the Sunnis mourn. The Shiites and Kurds celebrate his death, as do the Iranians and especially bin Laden – all enemies of Saddam Hussein. We have performed a tremendous service for both bin Laden and Ahmadinejad, and it will cost us plenty. The violent reaction to our complicity in the execution of Saddam Hussein is yet to come.

Three thousand American military personnel are dead, more than 22,000 are wounded, and tens of thousands will be psychologically traumatized by their tours of duty in Iraq. Little concern is given to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed in this war. We’ve spent $400 billion so far, with no end in sight.

This is money we don’t have. It is all borrowed from countries like China, that increasingly succeed in the global economy while we drain wealth from our citizens through heavy taxation and insidious inflation. Our manufacturing base is now nearly extinct.

Where the additional U.S. troops in Iraq will come from is anybody’s guess. But surely they won’t be redeployed from Japan, Korea, or Europe. We at least must pretend that our bankrupt empire is intact. But then again, the Soviet empire appeared intact in 1988.

Some Members of Congress, intent on equitably distributing the suffering among all Americans, want to bring back the draft. Administration officials vehemently deny making any concrete plans for a draft. But why should we believe this? Look what happened when so many believed the reasons given for our preemptive invasion of Iraq.

Selective Service officials admit running a check of their lists of available young men. If the draft is reinstated, we probably will include young women as well to serve the god of “equality.” Conscription is slavery, plain and simple. And it was made illegal under the 13th amendment, which prohibits involuntary servitude. One may well be killed as a military draftee, which makes conscription a very dangerous kind of enslavement.

Instead of testing the efficacy of the Selective Service System and sending more troops off to a war we’re losing, we ought to revive our love of liberty. We should repeal the Selective Service Act. A free society should never depend on compulsory conscription to defend itself.

We get into trouble by not following the precepts of liberty or obeying the rule of law. Preemptive, undeclared wars fought under false pretenses are a road to disaster. If a full declaration of war by Congress had been demanded as the Constitution requires, this war never would have been fought. If we did not create credit out of thin air as the Constitution prohibits, we never would have convinced taxpayers to support this war directly from their pockets. How long this financial charade can go on is difficult to judge, but when the end comes it will not go unnoticed by any American.

CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL.

45 posted on 01/11/2007 5:45:40 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: technomage

A very good point.

I haven't sent them one of my missives since the late '90s.


46 posted on 01/11/2007 6:07:16 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: x1stcav

He was assigned to the 611th Ord. Co. in Chu Lai.


47 posted on 01/11/2007 6:08:02 PM PST by jch10
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To: jch10

I was with HHC/3rdBde at LZ Mace. He was there almost a year or more earlier than I as they'd moved the Cav down to III Corp from I Corp by then. Before that I was with 3/8th Inf of the 4th Inf Div based out of Camp Radcliffe, An Khe up in II Corp.


48 posted on 01/11/2007 6:24:19 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
My fear is he will be replaced with a lib.

Uh, how would you know?

49 posted on 01/11/2007 6:49:14 PM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: The South Texan
Hagel is a griping old woman. Just look at the guy. He literally looks the part, and just because he was a veteran doesn't mean he gets a pass on criticism.

He needs to stand up for America, our Commander in Chief, and victory.

Right now he sounds like a defeatist.

I hope Nebraska replaces him with a real conservative next time he's up for election.

50 posted on 01/12/2007 6:50:08 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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