Skip to comments.Did the President Declare "Secret War" Against Syria and Iran?
Posted on 01/11/2007 6:49:34 PM PST by voletti
Washington intelligence, military and foreign policy circles are abuzz today with speculation that the President, yesterday or in recent days, sent a secret Executive Order to the Secretary of Defense and to the Director of the CIA to launch military operations against Syria and Iran.
The President may have started a new secret, informal war against Syria and Iran without the consent of Congress or any broad discussion with the country.
The bare outlines of that order may have appeared in President Bush's Address to the Nation last night outlining his new course on Iraq:
Succeeding in Iraq also requires defending its territorial integrity and stabilizing the region in the face of extremist challenges. This begins with addressing Iran and Syria. These two regimes are allowing terrorists and insurgents to use their territory to move in and out of Iraq. Iran is providing material support for attacks on American troops. We will disrupt the attacks on our forces. We'll interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq. We're also taking other steps to bolster the security of Iraq and protect American interests in the Middle East. I recently ordered the deployment of an additional carrier strike group to the region. We will expand intelligence-sharing and deploy Patriot air defense systems to reassure our friends and allies. We will work with the governments of Turkey and Iraq to help them resolve problems along their border. And we will work with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating the region.
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Shades of Iran-contra, eh? This time, bloody finish the job pls.
All he has to do is ship the captured IEDs to the Arab nationalists in the western Iranian provinces.
I say yes.
I say we have easy plausible deniability. How many bad news Baathists would love to get out of prison free and spend some time disrupting civil affairs in Iranian communities.
You could probably do the same thing with some Shiites for Syria.
I hope this is true.
This writer doesn't like the idea. I like it.
If he did, then it's no different from the "war" we waged on the Soviet Union and her allies for decades.
Works for me. Insert sniper teams, and aim for the generals.
I hope so, now let's let the secret out in the form of an all out bombing raid or targeted nukes.
What? THat the President can keep a secret?
Or that he (this writer) can't?
Let us hope.
hmmmmmmmmmm............. the axis of evil........
is ?? Secrets ? to whom ? even that cave man from Geico
knows President Bush is cancer serious
Hey, the somalia thing worked!
What a stupid question.
Back in September of 2001, President Bush declared war on any and all who harbor terrorists.
If that now includes Iran and Syria, well...they can't say they weren't warned.
Iraq makes a wonderful staging area without being in the "sacred lands".
Hey, while we're in the area....
I'll have more advice later on. Ta Ta.
IIRC Congress did not put a location restriction on his authorization to take out the terrorists.
The better question to ask is 'has Syria and Iran declared war against the United States by supplying insurgents and weapons to kill American soldiers in Iraq?'
Thats What your going to see from here on out!
After We take One Last Fricken Shot in Irak!
Somalia? Nobody talks about it! (Its Got Rummys Fingerprints All over it!)
I believe Rummy has left a Nice Bag of Future Tricks!
The media is asking the wrong question. Per usual.
It's not that we've declared proxy war on Iran or Syrian. They've engaged US in a proxy war since 3/03, and I'm sure an argument could be made that they engaged us even sooner, but we didn't notice.
I hope so.
If he did, it will soon be leaked to the New York Times.
Not good enough. We need to declare double secret war on them.
Yesterday I noticed that the president is shifting focus to Iran. Look for more signs. I believe that we will be poking at Iran to provoke them, but I don't see that happening for about six months or more. Ultimately it will look like we had no choice but to respond.
The president cannot declare war against Iran, and he has no public support to do so. However, if we escalate a situation to war, then the country has no choice.
But I think they ARE on Double Secret Probation.
which contains the quote:
She also said Bush in his speech was referring to taking action against Iranian and Syrian operatives inside Iraq.
The interesting thing is that the Dems have spent the last 4 years complaining that the President should be focusing on Iran instead of Iraq. Now it looks like he may be doing it, and true to form, the Dems are now attacking him for doing that.
This all reminds me of some of the things Nixon did in advance of pulling US forces out of Vietnam. Nixon waged an undeclared war by invading Cambodia, the result of which was the elimination of the Southern end of the Ho Chi Minh Trail as an effective staging area. This bought the US time to pull forces out (and build up South Vietnam's forces) as part of his "Vietnamization" plan.
The question now is whether the Dems will do to Bush what they did to Ford in 1975: completely tie his hands and prevent him from doing what is necessary to support the Iraqi government once US forces are withdrawn ...
We can only hope.
Looks like they are filling the "rocket" with beef gravy.
Of course the president could veto any such resolution, only to be over-ridden by a two thirds majority.
I hope so.
The road to victory in Iraq runs through Tehran and Damascus
That doesn't make logical sense.
'declare' and 'secret' don't go together.
Semantics apart, methinx the point's clear.
As long as Dems in cogress are clueless, the war's secret enuf 4 me.
If I know about it, it can't be secret.
and the problem would be???????
We'll roll up their orgs throughout the mid-east...viciously and covertly. We'll threaten and embarass them. We'll cruise the Straits of Hormuz with all fire control radars hitting every military installation. We'll harass all military flights and naval sorties.
We'll even CORSS the borders for limited bombing/engagement of the Iranian SpecOps that are supporting the insurgency. We'll tighten the financial noose as well. We'll do everything short of full-scale invasion in an attempt to provoke them, and we'll succeed.
Then we'll have the political cover to bring hell to their very doorstep.
I certainly hope so!
A large part of Iran in included in "Kurdistan." Right now, the Kurds are talking, as they have for years with the Iranians. Suppose we made it worth their while to stire them up in Iran and, at the same time, made them promise to leave Turkey alone.
A difference is that Ford was looking for re-election in 1976. Therefore, he did not confront Congress. If Nixon had no blundered into Watergate, the history of Vietnam would have been quite different.
Yup, the Iranian subs should fail to return to port after submerging for starters.
The Kurds have been betrayed numerous times. America betrayed them at least twice in my memory. So they are likely to be very careful about any assurances we give them, especially since they are well aware that there are forces in America that would love to leave them dangling once again.
Also, Turkey would be strongly resistant to an independent Kurdistan, even if it did not include their own Kurds. An independent Kurdistan would be a magnet for Turkish Kurds in the future, regardless of any promises made now.
Still, it may be a possibility. I'm sure everyone in the region is considering it.
One would be sufficent, don't you think?
The best assurance we can give them is not good enough, but any is better than none.
Exactly.. Insurgency works both ways..
Actually, if there is no budget, the President has complete authority to spend mony on what he deems necessary. Although he would close down the national parks, and various welfare agencies, he would continue to fund the military, border patrol, coast guard. Money would continue to flow into the IRS.
Lincoln fought the Civil War for some 6 months after he was elected, without benefit of Congress.
You may recall that Clinton vetoed the budget just after the Republicans took office in 1994.
This president does not know that killing people is the only way to win a war. He should be studying Caesar, Genghis Kahn, and Lincoln's terrorist-in-chief, Bill Sherman.