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Challenges to the U.S. (Paul Craig Roberts' Last NewsMax Column?)
NewsMax.com ^ | December 29, 2006 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 01/12/2007 10:11:28 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot

In her historical mystery, "The Daughter of Time," Josephine Tey (a pen name of Elizabeth MacKintosh) has Scotland Yard Inspector Alan Grant, while confined to his hospital bed, solve the 15th century murder of the two York princes in the Tower of London.

The princes were murdered by Henry VII, and the crime was blamed on Richard III in order to justify the upstart Tudor's violent seizure of the English throne.

Tey makes the point that if a 20th century mystery writer can detect the truth about a 15th century murder, historians have no excuse to persist in writing in school textbooks that Richard murdered his nephews. British historians remained loyal to the Tudor propaganda long after the Tudors were no longer around to be feared or served.

At the beginning of the scientific era, men had the hope that the ability to discover truth would free mankind from superstition, dogma, and the service of power.

The belief in truth was powerful.

Truth would deliver justice and bring an end to status-based privileges and the falsehoods propagated by privilege. The faith in truth was short-lived. Today, propaganda is everywhere ascendant.

In the panoply of left-wing propaganda about Augusto Pinochet, it is nowhere mentioned that Salvador Allende was appointed president of Chile by the Chilean congress, which three years later called on Chile's military to oust Allende for his totalitarian ways. Instead, Allende is portrayed as a "popularly elected president who was overthrown by a tyrant."

Every week, another apologist for President Bush compares "Bush's fight for Iraqi freedom" to Abraham Lincoln's "fight to free the slaves."

The American Civil War was not fought to "free the slaves," as Thomas DiLorenzo and other scholars have thoroughly documented, any more than the purpose of Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq was to "bring freedom to Iraqis."

The freedom excuse was invented after it became impossible to maintain the fictions about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein's connections to Osama bin Laden. Bush has yet to tell the real reason he invaded Iraq.

In the United States today, demonization and propaganda substitute for facts and analysis. Professors and journalists are quick to lend their names and voices to the untruths that rule our lives. Just as Hitler's foreign policy was based in propaganda, so is Bush's and Blair's.

The success of propaganda enhances government's illusion that it has a monopoly on truth. It is the monopoly on truth that gives the Bush regime the right to define the "Iran problem," the "Syria problem," the "Lebanon problem" and the "Korea problem," and to apply coercion in place of understanding and negotiation.

Secure in its possession of truth, the Bush administration refuses to talk to the enemies it has manufactured. It will only fight them.

When scholars such as John Walt and Stephen Mearsheimer, or President Jimmy Carter who has tried harder than anyone else to achieve Arab-Israeli peace, point out that Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians is a cause of Middle East turmoil, they are immediately denounced as anti-Semites.

Columnists and academics who know nothing about the Middle East or its troubles nevertheless understand what they are supposed to say whenever anyone mentions Israel in any critical context. And they have no compunction about saying it, the truth be damned.

Without commitment to truth, science, justice, and debate falter and disappear.

The belief in truth is fading from our society. It is unclear whether scientists themselves any longer believe in truth or the ability to discover it.

The discovery of truth is no longer the purpose of our criminal justice system. Once, prosecutors believed that it was better for 10 guilty men to go free than for one innocent person to be wrongfully convicted. Today, prosecutors believe in high conviction rates to justify their budgets and re-election.

In the past, police solved crimes. Today, they round up suspects and pressure them.

There was no debate in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, and none today in the United States. Many Americans, who imagine themselves to be conservatives even though they have never read, nor could they identify, a conservative writer, equate truth-telling with hatred of America.

They are of Bush's mindset: "You are with us or against us."

Bush supporters respond to factual articles about Iraq and the rending of the U.S. Constitution by suggesting that, as the writer hates America so much, he should move to Cuba or China.

In America today, each faction's "truths" are defined by the faction's dogma or ideology.

Each faction bans factual analysis that it doesn't want to hear. This is as true within the universities as it is at political rallies. The old liberal notion that "we shall follow the truth wherever it may lead" has long departed from America.

Think tanks reflect the views of the donors. Studies are no longer independent of their financing. In America, truth has become partisan.

All societies have elements of myth, untruths that nevertheless serve to unite a people. But many myths serve as camouflage for evil. One of the greatest myths is that "GIs have died for our freedom." GIs have died for American empire, for the American elite's commitment to England and for the military-industrial complex's profits.

Some may have died in Korea for the freedom of South Koreans, and some may have died trying to save South Vietnamese from the North Vietnamese communists. But it is hogwash that GIs died for our freedom.

There was no prospect of North Korea attacking America in the 1950s or Vietnam attacking America in the 1960s, and none today. The Nazis were defeated by Russia before U.S. troops landed in Europe. The United States never faced any threat of invasion from Germany, Italy, or Japan.

America's wars have created hysteria that endanger our freedom. Abraham Lincoln shut down the freedom of the press and arrested editors and state legislators. Woodrow Wilson arrested war critics.

Franklin Roosevelt interned American citizens of Japanese descent. George W. Bush has destroyed most of the Bill of Rights. In 2006, Congress appropriated funds for building concentration camps in the United States.

Recently, Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, said that freedom of speech is inconsistent with "the war on terror." If it takes a police state to fight terror, the country is lost even if Muslim terrorists are defeated. Americans have far more to fear from a homeland police state than from terrorists.

The vast majority of the world's terrorists are the recent creations of Bush's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and of Israel's invasion of Lebanon and brutality toward the Palestinians. Bush is simultaneously creating terrorists and a police state. It serves no one but the police to make their power unaccountable.

On Dec. 26, Jeff Cohen explained on Truthout how war propaganda took over TV news and demonized everyone who spoke the truth about Iraq, while pushing war fever to a frenzy.

Fox "News" was the worst, with its ranks of generals and colonels who sold their integrity for dollars and TV exposure. One of Fox's loudest voices for war was a retired general who sat on the board of a military contractor.

When the Clinton administration allowed the media concentration in the 1990s, the independence of the American media was destroyed. Today, there are a few large conglomerates whose values depend on broadcast licenses from the government. The conglomerates are run by corporate executives who are not journalists and whose eyes are on advertising revenues.

They publish and broadcast what is safe. These conglomerates will take no risks in behalf of free speech or truth.

The challenges that America faces are not terrorism and oil supply.

The challenges that we face are the police state that Bush has created and the disrespect for truth that is endemic in government, the universities and the media.

The United States has entered a dark age of dogmas and unaccountable power.

COPYRIGHT 2006 CREATORS SYNDICATE INC.


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: assclown; barkingmoonbat; bedlam; bellevue; bonkers; bughouse; cuespookymusic; morethorazineplease; paulcraigroberts; pcr; richardiii
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Poor Paul no longer shows up on the pundits page on NewsMax. I've enjoyed posting his nonsense since even FR's doom and gloomers like Willie Green (may he whine in peace) and A.Pole realized that Paul had gone insane.

I thought perhaps he was taking a break for the New Year, but he seems to have scribbled 8 columns so far this year for VDARE, so we might not see any more of his "wisdom" on Free Republic.

1 posted on 01/12/2007 10:11:33 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Mase; 1rudeboy; expat_panama; nopardons; A. Pole; robowombat; SirLinksalot; nascaryankee; ...
Paul's last hurrah? Ping!!
2 posted on 01/12/2007 10:12:20 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Anybody who starts out his column treating fiction as truth has no place to go but downhill.


3 posted on 01/12/2007 10:12:58 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Obligatory graphic.


4 posted on 01/12/2007 10:13:57 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

>>>>Congress appropriated funds for building concentration camps in the United States

Anyone have a link for more about this?


5 posted on 01/12/2007 10:14:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What's this article about? I don't feel like wasting my time on it . . . if you read it, my sympathies.


6 posted on 01/12/2007 10:15:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; All
There was no debate in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, and none today in the United States.

So, PCR, how are things in the concentration camp?

7 posted on 01/12/2007 10:16:00 AM PST by dighton
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To: AnAmericanMother

It's amazing how many people lap up every bit of his garbage and think they've heard the truth.


8 posted on 01/12/2007 10:17:13 AM PST by Columbine
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To: 1rudeboy
What's this article about?

Bush bad....bla...bla...Bush Hitler....bla...bla...Bush destroying our rights....Bush destroying our freedom......bla....bla.

The same as all his other columns.

9 posted on 01/12/2007 10:17:17 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Calpernia
Anyone have a link for more about this?

The only links are in Paul's addled mind.

10 posted on 01/12/2007 10:18:26 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Columbine
I've read The Daughter of Time. It's a good read, well written. But it's FICTION. The "innocence of Richard III" crowd, like the "Bacon wrote Shakespeare" crowd and the "Flat Earth" crowd, will be with us always.

And so, apparently, will Paul Craig Roberts.

11 posted on 01/12/2007 10:19:24 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Toddsterpatriot

He says he's concerned about truth and then he tosses out one whopper after another.


12 posted on 01/12/2007 10:19:44 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Great nations cannot choose to lose wars simply because they've lost interest in them)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Tey makes the point that if a 20th century mystery writer can detect the truth about a 15th century murder, historians have no excuse to persist in writing in school textbooks that Richard murdered his nephews.

Remarkably large IF.

Nobody knows who murdered the little princes. The theory that Henry VII did it is based on the highly unlikely theory that Richard III would keep them locked up incommunicado as his support eroded because of suspicion he'd bumped them off.

13 posted on 01/12/2007 10:21:30 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Calpernia

If you stop by the trade/economics threads, periodically one of the True Believers™ posts a link.


14 posted on 01/12/2007 10:22:21 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: dighton
There was no debate in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, and none today in the United States.

Good. I'm tired of y'all debating with me. :)

15 posted on 01/12/2007 10:22:23 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Paul forgets that its only his liberal friends and their constituents for whom history begins when they wake up in the morning.

Not Free Republic.


16 posted on 01/12/2007 10:23:11 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Toddsterpatriot
...but he seems to have scribbled 8 columns so far this year for VDARE, so we might not see any more of his "wisdom" on Free Republic.

Good riddance to bad trash. At least with VDARE, he's finally with his own kind. Even the insane need company.

17 posted on 01/12/2007 10:24:50 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Obviously he's a lunatic.

But he repeats here a couple of tropes popular among palaeocon leftists and other leftists.

(1) President Lincoln never said before, during or after the Civil War that his goal was to free the slaves. His stated goal was to preserve the Union and he said openly that freeing the slaves or keeping them in bondage was a subordinate concern to this goal.

(2) President Bush never said that his goal was freedom in Iraq. He said that his goal was the removal of a dictator whose regime was inimical to US interests and US security. Freedom for Iraqis was a positive externality.

18 posted on 01/12/2007 10:25:36 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Just like some great opuses (opii?) I've read here on FreeRepublic, PCR goes out with a bang.

Seriously though, he needs to put his bong down. His grasp of history is tenuous, at best.

19 posted on 01/12/2007 10:27:20 AM PST by Night Hides Not
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To: Toddsterpatriot

NewsMax carries enough good articles to make me want to know what the basis of that comment is.


20 posted on 01/12/2007 10:27:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 1rudeboy

I've not been on that thread. Do you know a freeper's nick that I can ping?


21 posted on 01/12/2007 10:28:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
There was no debate in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, and none today in the United States.

This guy wins the Dick Durbin-Democrat Underground Award of the Day.

Good job, man with three first names.

P.S. If he had worked in Jenjis Khan he could have also won the John F Kerry award.

22 posted on 01/12/2007 10:28:44 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Recently, Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, said that freedom of speech is inconsistent with "the war on terror."

No, he didn't, and that is a perfect example of Roberts claiming to defend the truth by lying through his teeth. It is, though, telling that he cites the "solution" of the dead princes as an example of how we ought to treat the truth. It was pure fiction.

23 posted on 01/12/2007 10:30:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Calpernia
What is wrong with concentration camps?

There is "catch and release" going on in Irak as we speak because there are not enough prison beds. There is catch and release of illegals going on right here in river city because there are not enough detention beds(so we are told...I suspect PC). Sheriff Arpia in Phoenix runs kind of a concentration camp down there...

so what is wrong with concentration camps....as long as we call them something else....like "detention centers"??

Sounds like a relatively inexpensive way to house "detainees" to me.

24 posted on 01/12/2007 10:32:06 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: Calpernia

I don't feel like embarrassing him or her further. And the website was one of those, "Bush will declare martial law when the corporo-syndicate gives the word, here are some photos of the camps and the FEMA boxcars that will transport us there."


25 posted on 01/12/2007 10:32:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Night Hides Not
Just like some great opuses (opii?)

Actually, the plural of opus is opera. I kid you not.

26 posted on 01/12/2007 10:33:20 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Is this man insane?


27 posted on 01/12/2007 10:34:49 AM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: B.O. Plenty

I would like a link to ever read what is being referred to.


28 posted on 01/12/2007 10:36:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 1rudeboy

Thanks. I don't want a website like that. But if you happen to see any references to what this appropriation bill was, ping me.

Thanks.


29 posted on 01/12/2007 10:37:54 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Mase

Going to one of Willie's old PCR threads is fun, if only to click on the moniker of each poster to discover if they still exist.


30 posted on 01/12/2007 10:38:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Bahbah
Is this man insane?

Yes.

31 posted on 01/12/2007 10:38:42 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: 1rudeboy

The crazy posters who agreed with Willie and Paul, mostly gone.


32 posted on 01/12/2007 10:40:27 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Calpernia

I think it's entirely possible that PCR miscalculated his dosage . . . we just completed improvements at Gitmo, for example. Maybe that set him off.


33 posted on 01/12/2007 10:40:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Hey, I found it!

I don't think concentration camp was a good choice of works for the NewsMax writer to use. These sound similar to the camps we used for the Japanese.

Using concentration camp was obvious use of propaganda vs. dentetion center.

Excerpt

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.


Thanks for the input though!


34 posted on 01/12/2007 10:44:55 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"The nation's 17 million college and university students are being denied truth while their risky behavior is condoned by the prevalent social agenda on campus. Dispassionate objectivity and compassionate concern for an individual's health and well-being have been replaced by social activism

Hmmm, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766556/posts

35 posted on 01/12/2007 10:48:37 AM PST by jpsb
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To: NeoCaveman
Actually, the plural of opus is opera. I kid you not.

Maybe I need to change my terminology. These farewells were far from boring, but there was nothing opera-like about them!

36 posted on 01/12/2007 10:53:37 AM PST by Night Hides Not
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To: Calpernia
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning pretext that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Fixed it for ya. You can thank me later

37 posted on 01/12/2007 10:54:22 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

You sure you're responding to the correct thread?


38 posted on 01/12/2007 10:58:56 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yes, PCR is making a valid point, I don't completely agree with his examples but truth, objective truth, has fallen to propaganda, EVERYWHERE. So I thought I'd post another professional in a different profession making the same point.One can easily see the propagandists at work, since they never debate, only insult and ridicule.


39 posted on 01/12/2007 11:07:17 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
I don't completely agree with his examples but truth, objective truth, has fallen to propaganda,

As shown in his columns.

40 posted on 01/12/2007 11:09:27 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: jpsb
One can easily see the propagandists at work, since they never debate, only insult and ridicule.

What a pantload. If one writes something ridiculous, expect ridicule. Complaining about it simply makes one appear childish, in addition.

41 posted on 01/12/2007 12:00:45 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Roberts is an anti-Semite.


42 posted on 01/12/2007 12:08:01 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Bahbah

"Is Paul Craig Roberts insane."

I think he has some serious mental issues. Let's look at the facts:

1. Back in the eighties, he was a well-regarded economist, government official, and journalist.

2. In the nineties, he wrote some truly brilliant stuff, but already, he was lobbing off-the-wall accusations.

3. In the last few years, he has been blaming the Israeli government for everything. He has no evidence for his claims. He sounds like a classic paranoiac.

4. Twice in the last year, he has gone six weeks without writing a column. On other occasions, he has put out four columns in a week. This past week, he's already written four columns for Antiwar.com. When he puts out a lot of columns in a week, he sounds the most unhinged.

5. He never makes public appearances anymore.

I'm no psychiatrist, but I think Roberts is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. According to Healthsquare.com, here are the symptoms, followed by my comments:

-Confusion (hard to say)

-Inability to make decisions (doesn't write books anymore, and he used to be a pretty prolific writer.)

-Hallucinations (been claiming to know for sure that the U.S. was going to set off a nuclear bomb and blame it on terrorists)

-Changes in eating or sleeping habits, energy level, or weight (could explain the long periods without writing a column)

-Delusions (See hallucinations)

-Nervousness (Hard to say)

-Strange statements or behavior (Absolutely--read a bunch of his columns)

-Withdrawal from friends, work, or school (no longer makes personal appearances. Other columnists don't ever mention seeing or talking with him.)

-Neglect of personal hygiene (don't know)

-Anger (extreme)

-Indifference to the opinions of others (he dismisses most other opinions in his column)

-A tendency to argue (extreme)

-A conviction that you are better than others, or that people are out to get you (he displays both, big time)

I hope he gets help. He was a great man once, and he was the man who wrote the Kemp-Roth bill that saved the U.S. economy.


43 posted on 01/12/2007 12:31:33 PM PST by Our man in washington (The Democratic party is an alliance of narcissists and parasites.)
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To: Our man in washington

Thanks for that great response. My question was a serious one, based on reading the article. I didn't know about his past and his former ability to do good work and think rationally. There is obviously something very, very wrong with him now and he clearly needs help.


44 posted on 01/12/2007 12:39:29 PM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Exactly my point.

It's fiction, and therefore can be constructed to prove anything.

Second-guessing history is an amusing pastime, but no more than that.

You make a good point re: Richard III keeping the princes locked up while public opinion turned against him. If he didn't do it, somebody working for him did ("Will nobody rid me of this troublesome priest?")

45 posted on 01/12/2007 12:39:44 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Our man in washington; Bahbah
Does anybody know his family?

Surely his family or friends would be trying to get him help?

Of course, they MAY have given up. I've known folks with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia whose families tried everything including involuntary hospitalization to try to get them straightened out.

Eventually, if the patient doesn't WANT to get straightened out (some people get hooked on the manic highs, and simply refuse to take their medication), you have to cut yourself off from them, because otherwise they drive you crazy too. Sad, but occasionally true.

46 posted on 01/12/2007 12:42:58 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It's hard to believe that Paul Craig Roberts was once a respected member of the conservative movement in America. I remember reading his articles about the Reagan Tax Cuts, supply side economics, and how the Reagan revolution would turn America around from the doldrum of Carter's double-digit unemployment, double-digit interest rates, double-digit inflation, and a double-digit misery index. Then he abruptly resigned from the Reagan Administration's Treasury Department, and he hasn't been the same since.


47 posted on 01/12/2007 1:05:33 PM PST by AdvisorB
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To: AnAmericanMother

There are four or five guys who've been touted as suspects. Given the distance in time, and the lack of information even then, we can never know.

They disappeared. Nobody knows what happened to them.


48 posted on 01/12/2007 2:11:11 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Do you think the bodies found under the staircase in the Tower are those of the princes?


49 posted on 01/12/2007 2:34:39 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I haven't a clue. And neither does anybody else. A lot of young people probably died in the Tower over the centuries. It is possible that modern forensics could answer some questions.


50 posted on 01/12/2007 4:22:38 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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