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Obama's charm lost on America's black activists
The Sunday Times ^ | January 14, 2007 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 01/13/2007 10:18:09 PM PST by george76

HE is a media darling, a paparazzi target and a source of inspiration for millions of Democrats who dream of retaking the White House in 2008.

But Senator Barack Obama, the charismatic African-American who is shaking up the presidential primary race, has not impressed some of America’s most powerful black activists.

Civil rights leaders who have dominated black politics for much of the past two decades have pointedly failed to embrace the 45-year-old Illinois senator who is considering a bid to become America’s first black president.

At a meeting of activists in New York last week, the Rev Jesse Jackson, the first black candidate to run for president, declined to endorse Obama. “Our focus right now is not on who’s running, because there are a number of allies running,”...

The Rev Al Sharpton, the fiery New York preacher who joined the Democratic primary race in 2004, said he was considering another presidential run of his own...

Harry Belafonte, the calypso singer who became an influential civil rights activist, said America needed to be “careful” about Obama: “We don’t know what he’s truly about.”

The unexpected coolness between the old civil rights guard and the new Democratic hopeful has added an intriguing twist to the budding rivalry between Obama and Senator Hillary Clinton...

“They are basically jealous,” said a Democratic strategist who has not yet decided which candidate he intends to support. “They’ve been toiling in the trenches for decades, and along comes this son of a Kenyan farmer and suddenly he’s measuring the drapes in the Oval Office.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alsharpton; barackobama; belafonte; democrats; electionpresident; harrybelafonte; jackson; jesse; jessejackson; obama; sharpton
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1 posted on 01/13/2007 10:18:12 PM PST by george76
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To: george76
But of course.

He doesn't rhyme. ....nor does he holler.

2 posted on 01/13/2007 10:21:34 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: george76

Ooooooooh, sounds like they're JEALOUS!


3 posted on 01/13/2007 10:23:31 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: onyx

The next two years should be entertaining.

The DUmmies can not blame everything on us anymore.


4 posted on 01/13/2007 10:25:06 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I really don't understand what the big deal with this empty suit is. He represents all that is liberal. There's not a dime's worth of difference between him and any other out-of- controldemocrat in congress. He's basically a light-skinned black man which in and of itself makes him acceptable to the democratic party racists.

There is nothing there . . . no there there. Hollow. Empty.

He has as much substance as Paris Hilton (altho she's a tad better looking)


5 posted on 01/13/2007 10:25:50 PM PST by laweeks (I)
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To: george76

HE is a media darling,

So is McPain.

Kerry, Clinton, Biden, Dodd, Bayh, ad nauseum....and that's just the beginning.

6 posted on 01/13/2007 10:26:37 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential material.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

They do not mention his mother nor step-father who raised him...put him thru school, etc.


7 posted on 01/13/2007 10:26:45 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mr. Mojo
He doesn't rhyme

Is true, is true. If you're looking for some serious rhyming, look no further than my personal favorite: Louis Jordan .

8 posted on 01/13/2007 10:27:19 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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To: george76

More disgusting than entertaining... I still cannot bear to watch them.


9 posted on 01/13/2007 10:29:00 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: george76
Harry Belafonte, the calypso singer who became an influential civil rights activist, said America needed to be “careful” about Obama: “We don’t know what he’s truly about.”

I'm Stunned,Harry always make Left Turns.....
10 posted on 01/13/2007 10:29:20 PM PST by cmsgop ( How do we know he's NOT Mel Torme?)
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To: laweeks

Many of the DUmmies hate Hillary and do think that she can not win a general election.

Obama is just an anti-Hillary.

IMO


11 posted on 01/13/2007 10:30:08 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: cmsgop
Harry Belafonte...said America needed to be “careful” about Obama:

BEWARE!!!.

12 posted on 01/13/2007 10:32:21 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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To: onyx

The DUmmies will be attacking each other very hard for a while.

Hillary has those FBI files under her bed.

She will start releasing the files as needed.


13 posted on 01/13/2007 10:32:24 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
"Harry Belafonte, the calypso singer who became an influential civil rights activist, said America needed to be “careful” about Obama: “We don’t know what he’s truly about.”

Harry's not black, he's a RED Communist. Harry thinks Obama isn't a radical revolutionary willing to wage open war against the US.

Harry Belafonte Calls Black Republicans 'Tyrants'
By Marc Morano
August 08, 2005

Atlanta (CNSNews.com) - Celebrity activist Harry Belafonte referred to prominent African-American officials in the Bush administration as "black tyrants" at a weekend march, and he also compared the administration to Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany.

14 posted on 01/13/2007 10:33:04 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: george76

He has no chance, he's a SMOKER!!!
Jack


15 posted on 01/13/2007 10:33:13 PM PST by btcusn (Giving up the right to arms is a mistake a free people get to make only once.)
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To: laweeks
I really don't understand what the big deal with this empty suit is.

The leftists see him as "their" Reagan.  Clinton/Carter have no legacy.  Their last stallion was Kennedy (and thank goodness the last senator elected to the Presidency pushing 50 years ago) and he was WAY post WWII.

The dems and MSM are beyond desperate.

16 posted on 01/13/2007 10:34:21 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential material.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

“He’s a young man in many ways to be admired,” Belafonte said.

“Obviously very bright, speaks very well, cuts a handsome figure. But all of that is just the king’s clothes. Who’s the king?”


17 posted on 01/13/2007 10:35:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

You're right about that --- drip, leak, tick, tock.


18 posted on 01/13/2007 10:38:22 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: george76

This all about not pissing of the Clintons.


19 posted on 01/13/2007 10:41:17 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: george76

He's not a real African-American because he's not descended from slaves.


20 posted on 01/13/2007 10:42:03 PM PST by umgud (The profound is only so to those that it is.)
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To: endthematrix

Harry is demented by age.


21 posted on 01/13/2007 10:42:40 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: george76

The activists don't like him because he's stolen their thunder.

While obama is as liberal as it comes, he's not some poverty pimp two-bit hustler like Blood Diamonds Jackson or Rev. Al Race Card Puller.

He doesn't every time he gets in front of a mic start spouting about how everything is some conspiracy by big whitey to keep colored people down which is how these activists make a buck.

That's why they feel the heat.


22 posted on 01/13/2007 10:43:23 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: umgud

The old media never mention his mother nor his step-father who raised him.


23 posted on 01/13/2007 10:44:01 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian foreign student, moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old.

Four years later, Obama returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


24 posted on 01/13/2007 10:52:03 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Think Obama Mania is largely an interest aggregation thing. Democrats have difficulty moblizing young voters ( A Conservative skill set) and minorities particularly black voters. While the percentage of blacks voting for dems is high at 89% the turnout among blacks is comparatively low. The Obama Hype is an effort to energize that demographic. it may work temporarily but will fade over time.


25 posted on 01/13/2007 10:52:18 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: george76
The unexpected coolness between the old civil rights guard and the new Democratic hopeful...

Since when is Banana Boat Belefonte a member of the civil rights establishment? Since he started bloviating a few years ago, taking advantage of the Hate Bush atmosphere? I think he was interviewed on the O'Reilly Factor. Does that make him important? Or is it because he had a hit record back in the '50's?

26 posted on 01/13/2007 10:54:33 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts... (NOT!))
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To: george76

Even the DUmmies know that Hillary is a weak candidate. She's another Kerry or Gore. The DUmmies believe the only thing is to find another Bill Clinton. Another empty suit who is all mouth and everyone will blindly flock to him. Obama is showing the same style.


27 posted on 01/13/2007 10:57:31 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Blue Highway

Bump and ping


28 posted on 01/13/2007 10:57:46 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: tomcorn
I remember back in '84 how Mondale was going to energize the woman's vote by selecting the renowned Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate. She turned out to be such a sharpie that she can't even get a 30-minute slot on the networks.
Even Democrats know is when someone is just being hyped in order to sell newsprint.
29 posted on 01/13/2007 10:59:37 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts... (NOT!))
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To: perfect stranger

I can't get enough of L. Jordan!


30 posted on 01/13/2007 10:59:58 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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To: tomcorn
The Obama Hype is an effort to energize that demographic. it may work temporarily but will fade over time.

It's called "peaking too soon" and it's the reason experienced men are better lovers than young men.

31 posted on 01/13/2007 11:02:00 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
" Even the DUmmies know that Hillary is a weak candidate.."

The dems are desperate and fishing.
32 posted on 01/13/2007 11:04:35 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

Yep...Patently obvious what is happening. Obama is a warm up act. The Obama Phenomema is old fashioned ward politics writ large. He may be a VP pick ( But I doubt it) Essentially Obama he is the Democrats JC Watts. While Watts and Obama are ideological mirror images, Like Watts, he is bright articulate and engaging. But like Watts he doesn't have a shot at real insider power.


33 posted on 01/13/2007 11:05:44 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: george76

Just my guess, but it appears from the article that Obama has not paid the normal extortion fees to Rev Jesse Jackson, Rev Al Sharpton or Harry Belafonte.


34 posted on 01/14/2007 12:40:55 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: george76

Its the ears..


35 posted on 01/14/2007 2:06:40 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: george76
Some background information about Obama
36 posted on 01/14/2007 2:15:22 AM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Louis Jordan is the man! For several years, I had a radio show on Saturday nights I called the "Saturday Night Fish Fry", with Mr. Jordan supplying the theme song. The first rock and roller, IMHO.


37 posted on 01/14/2007 2:33:00 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: george76
It's obvious that Hillary has dirt on all of these race pimps!
38 posted on 01/14/2007 2:37:21 AM PST by haywoodwebb (No way obama is VP. Hillary wouldn't have a n-word on her ticket! - I'm black so I can say it -LOL!!)
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To: george76

-“They’ve been toiling in the trenches for decades, and along comes this son of a Kenyan farmer and suddenly he’s measuring the drapes in the Oval Office.”-

Measurin' ain't gettin'.


39 posted on 01/14/2007 4:22:28 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: george76
Why is Obama Hussein having trouble?

"Black Activits" are so easy to charm.


40 posted on 01/14/2007 4:22:30 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: umgud
He's not a real African-American because he's not descended from slaves.

Exactly. And Obama's mother is white. That's a problem for the old guard as well.

41 posted on 01/14/2007 5:58:58 AM PST by randita
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To: george76
I think a lot of black activists (liberal and conservative, mind you) are annoyed because the media paints him as the great new black leader when he's not even really black! Sure, his skin is dark, and he has African ancestry, but he's not a true black American - he's not descended from slaves. On top of that, he had an extremely privileged background that very few black OR white kids get to experience. He's in no way qualified to speak about what it's like to be a black man in America. That's why I think the activists are (rightly) pissed.
42 posted on 01/14/2007 9:06:26 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Jeff Chandler

That song/video is priceless. Very sage advice, too.


43 posted on 01/14/2007 9:11:58 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: george76
just the king’s clothes

Belafonte has reversed the metaphor.

44 posted on 01/14/2007 9:15:41 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: george76
Clinton was applauded at a breakfast meeting for her attacks on President George W Bush’s economic policies of “tax breaks for the rich”. She added: “It is not rich Americans who have made this country great. It is hard-working Americans who have worked hard to lift themselves and their children up.”

Hillary thinks that rich people did not earn their money.

45 posted on 01/14/2007 9:23:42 AM PST by grundle
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

I think they're just holding back so they can extort some promises from him.


46 posted on 01/14/2007 9:30:23 AM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
he had an extremely privileged background that very few black OR white kids get to experience

I think the above is a bit over the top. His parents (biological, step- and grand-) were basically professors or civil servants. I would venture that most congresspeople his age, black and white, had at least as much money in their families. I would guess that his "raising family" income would be in the top 20% maybe, not much more .

Now, if you mean that, despite the family break-ups, he was always being raised by people who valued education, and seemed to care for him, that may be more privileged than most kids today.

I don't agree with his positions -- they are mostly conventional liberal -- but he is not "an empty suit." He is a very smart guy, who did not get his "brownie points" on affirmative action. (AA will get you into Harvard Law, but it won't get you on Law review, or graduate magna.) He is also well in control of himself, which is more than can be said for almot all the black dem leaders (which is another reason they dislike him), and most of the white dem leaders. That makes him both attractive and formidable. Be prepared to take him on on the issues.

47 posted on 01/14/2007 10:00:43 AM PST by BohDaThone
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To: TYVets
Most excellent observation! Jesse et al have not received their pound of flesh.

How presumptuous of Obama!

49 posted on 01/14/2007 10:43:35 AM PST by doberville
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To: BohDaThone

You're right, perhaps I went a bit over the top, but I generally stand by what I said. He went to private school and traveled around the world as a kid. That's certainly more opportunity than a white kid from St. Paul such as yours truly ever had.

However, I agree that Obama is definitely smart and worked hard to get where he is. He didn't need to be outlandish to get attention, which sets him aside from the self-appointed black leaders.


50 posted on 01/14/2007 1:13:47 PM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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