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Minimum-wage bill to cover U.S. Samoa
San Diego U/T ^ | 01/14/06 | ap

Posted on 01/14/2007 9:06:45 AM PST by RS

"House Democrats say a just-passed minimum-wage bill will be changed to cover all U.S. territories – including American Samoa – "

"Spokesmen for Pelosi and Rep. George Miller, D-Martinez, the author of the minimum-wage bill, said it excluded American Samoa at the request of nonvoting Delegate Eni Faleomavaega, a Democrat who represents the Pacific island territories in the House.

Raising the federal minimum wage would devastate the local tuna industry, Faleomavaega said in a statement last week, adding that American Samoa's economy is “more than 80 percent” dependent on Chicken of the Sea and StarKist."

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; democrat; feelgoodpolitics; minimumwage; pelosiscandal; samoa; thereareconsequences; tunagate
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1 posted on 01/14/2007 9:06:48 AM PST by RS
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'Raising the federal minimum wage would devastate the local tuna industry, Faleomavaega said in a statement last week, adding that American Samoa's economy is “more than 80 percent” dependent on Chicken of the Sea and StarKist."'

Screw 'em. Middle American teenagers need more money for PS3 games.


2 posted on 01/14/2007 9:08:10 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero

This helps illustrate how the min wage bill is a BAD thing.


3 posted on 01/14/2007 9:09:02 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: L98Fiero

I see the MSM was quick to cover Bella Pelosi's butt.


4 posted on 01/14/2007 9:09:32 AM PST by CAWats (I don't care about apathy.)
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To: RS

Prepare for an increase in the price of canned tuna.


I'm sure the environmentalists will approve, though.


5 posted on 01/14/2007 9:11:09 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: RS
"Raising the federal minimum wage would devastate the local tuna industry, Faleomavaega said in a statement last week..."

Anytime the government sets or fixes prices, including setting the minimum price for labor, it has negative effects on the economy and some people are going to get hurt. It is never a good thing, but our government just keeps doing this stupid and hoping for a different result.
6 posted on 01/14/2007 9:11:44 AM PST by Hendrix
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To: RS

Too bad. It looked like American Samoa was going to escape this madness at first.


7 posted on 01/14/2007 9:12:16 AM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: RS

Time to stock up on canned tuna.


8 posted on 01/14/2007 9:13:30 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: RS

It does show why we should never back down from the democrats. They're more afraid of us than the republicans.


9 posted on 01/14/2007 9:13:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: The Old Hoosier

Not only that ... They originally excluded Samoa at the request of it's Democrat representative who then presumably supported it .... then turned around to screw him once it passed.

The Democrat leadership of the House & Senate can change any and every bill to whatever they want AFTER it is passed by the rank and file.


10 posted on 01/14/2007 9:14:12 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

If the bill needs to be changed, then it will be a 100-hour violation unless they can get the vote to happen in that window.


11 posted on 01/14/2007 9:15:05 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: RS

San Fran Nan singing a different tuna? ;-)


12 posted on 01/14/2007 9:15:16 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: RS

"Spokesmen for Pelosi and Rep. George Miller, D-Martinez, the author of the minimum-wage bill, said it excluded American Samoa at the request of nonvoting Delegate Eni Faleomavaega, a Democrat who represents the Pacific island territories in the House."



Yeah, right. I'm sure that Pelosi asked him to make the statement.


13 posted on 01/14/2007 9:15:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Hendrix

A federal minimum wage is a bad idea anyway you cut it. The fact that a dollar will buy more in some areas of the country than others is one huge glaring reason ther should be no national minimum wage.


14 posted on 01/14/2007 9:15:48 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero

The Democrats have just destroyed the economy of American Samoa. Unfortunately, the media will move on and the American public will miss out on this microcosm of socialist stupidity.


15 posted on 01/14/2007 9:16:22 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

This bill needs to go thru committe.There,s to much PORK in it.


16 posted on 01/14/2007 9:18:01 AM PST by jocko12
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To: NonValueAdded

"If the bill needs to be changed, then it will be a 100-hour violation ..."

If the Senate passes some version of this and the bill goes to consolidation before going to the President, they can do just about ANYTHING they want to it with no revote necessary ... correct ?


17 posted on 01/14/2007 9:20:30 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

Sort of ... the conference committee can do lots of things to the bill although I'm not sure they can introduce things that aren't in one of the two versions. However, the conference report must be accepted by both Houses of Congress. And that assumes the Members read the conference report before voting, just as we assume they read the legislation. /HystericalLaughter


18 posted on 01/14/2007 9:25:03 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: RS
Well now that we exposed tuna gate and Pelosi and her lies let us go farther. Let us now expose her true agenda. If we let this babe go we will be paying taxes to the hilt that it will be better to be a bum and live off the government. Except for her, her friends and her commie buddies. Watch this woman the botox effects her brain.
19 posted on 01/14/2007 9:26:51 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: Brilliant

At the rate things are going, canned tuna will be banned by 2012 anyway. Since eating 991 cans of tuna at one sitting contains enough mercury to kill a rat, it should be banned.

By 2018, the only things that will be served in NYC restaurants will be berries and water (8 oz limit because of that recent story about the person who died from drinking too much water). This will continue until berries and water are banned.

By 2022 we'll have all starved to death because all food and water will have been banned. Apple seeds have cyanide? Let's ban apples. 1/1000 people are allergic to nuts? Let's ban them. Salt? gone. beef? Sugar? c-ya. Mushrooms are a fungus? banned. chicken? banned. pork? offensive to Muslims; banned. Carrots and potatoes? they grow underground with dirt and all. banned.


20 posted on 01/14/2007 9:27:23 AM PST by bws53
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To: Brilliant
Prepare for an increase in the price of canned tuna. I'm sure the environmentalists will approve, though.

Nancy Pelosi targets WIC,(women,infants,and children).

What food benefits do WIC participants receive?WIC foods include iron-fortified infant formula and infant cereal, iron-fortified adult cereal, vitamin C-rich fruit and/or vegetable juice, eggs, milk, cheese, peanut butter, dried beans or peas, tuna fish and carrots.

pelosi and the dems going after moms and babies,how mean spirited;)

21 posted on 01/14/2007 9:29:13 AM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: bws53
Eat what the Liberals eat, those food items will be exempt
22 posted on 01/14/2007 9:29:29 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: RS


If this were a Republican enabling this crap he would have been crucified in the news this weekend.


23 posted on 01/14/2007 9:29:52 AM PST by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: mdittmar

It just means a bigger subsidy for Pelosi's constituents. That's probably why she has no problem increasing the min. wage in Samoa. She knows the government is picking up the tab anyway.


24 posted on 01/14/2007 9:30:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: RS
Raising the federal minimum wage would devastate the local tuna
industry, Faleomavaega said in a statement last week, adding that
American Samoa's economy is “more than 80 percent” dependent on
Chicken of the Sea and StarKist."


Hey, Faleomavaega should understand...this is what Democrats
and their fellow-travelers in PETA want to happen.

Damage the tuna industry as retribution for those dead dolphins.
And turn more people into vegans.

Funny how even some Democrats fail to get/read the memos about
their party's REAL objectives.

To paraphrase Hillary!'s preaching to the healthcare field:
"It's not our fault that Sea Kist built their business on a culture
of animal abuse!"
25 posted on 01/14/2007 9:31:49 AM PST by VOA
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To: Jaysun
WOW.

In reality, it means both canneries are going to shut down..

Hmmm, since I have lawsuits against both, maybe this means they will settle..

26 posted on 01/14/2007 9:32:39 AM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: RS
House Democrats say a just-passed minimum-wage bill will be changed to cover all U.S. territories – including American Samoa –

Spokesmen for Pelosi and Rep. George Miller, D-Martinez, the author of the minimum-wage bill, said it excluded American Samoa at the request of nonvoting Delegate Eni Faleomavaega,

Is Samoa excluded or not? This article is shamefully written.

27 posted on 01/14/2007 9:37:29 AM PST by andrew2527
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To: RS

This is a victory for Republicans. Unemployment in somoa will make the effects of the minimum wage obvious.

The next step should be to force the wage increase to go into effect before the next election, so it becomes obvious who's responsible.


28 posted on 01/14/2007 9:37:47 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: RS

So when will these canneries be moving to China?


29 posted on 01/14/2007 9:38:36 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: Doohickey
The Democrats have just destroyed the economy of American Samoa.

And that was just during the first 100 hours. Think what they can do in the next two years.

30 posted on 01/14/2007 9:41:17 AM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: mtbopfuyn

Case of 48 6-once cans is just $39.95 at BJ's Wholesale.

31 posted on 01/14/2007 9:48:09 AM PST by pabianice
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To: CAWats

No, it illustrates how the MSM is easily conflicted when faced with the unvarnished facts of economics. In this case, the denial vector (it is more a tensor, to translate reality to liberalthink) got pointed at protecting supporters of the minimum wage rather than spinning plausable denial about the Samoan cannery jobs.


32 posted on 01/14/2007 9:51:18 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: RS
Should be interesting.
33 posted on 01/14/2007 9:53:13 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: andrew2527

This makes it even more interesting -

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53747

Originally it was to cover ALL the Pacific island territories EXCEPT Samoa - Why ? Starkist Hedquarters is in Pelosi's district !


34 posted on 01/14/2007 9:55:51 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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"Raising the federal minimum wage would devastate the local tuna industry, Faleomavaega said in a statement last week, adding that American Samoa's economy is “more than 80 percent” dependent on Chicken of the Sea and StarKist."

It’s a travesty that hundreds of employees of a thriving business in a far off land will probably lose their jobs, devastating the local tuna industry, because of Democrats elected through no fault of their own or even the right to vote. I can't think of a more cruel example of taxation without representation. The depraved dominatrix, Mistress Nancy, has drawn first blood with her whip.

The employees of Chicken of the Sea and StarKist should have the right to declare their home Not-American Samoa during the next two years rather than suffer the unjust economic tyranny of socialist Democrats in the U.S.

35 posted on 01/14/2007 10:07:28 AM PST by Unmarked Package (Amazing surprises await us under cover of a humble exterior.)
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To: Howlin

I'm not sure the Republicans in Congress expected things to go this far. I think they expected to get some publicity that would allow the bill to die quietly in conference committee.

Instead, the Democrats call that bluff by showing how dedicated they are to legislation that "feels good" instead of doing the right thing. As if any further proof were needed that these people are concerned only with consolidating and expanding their own power. Hugo and Fidel must be proud.


36 posted on 01/14/2007 10:09:55 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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I'm not sure the Republicans in Congress expected things to go this far

82 Republicans (40% of the GOP caucus) voted for the bill. It goes to show you that nearly half of the GOP in the House are socialists just like the Dems.
37 posted on 01/14/2007 10:49:20 AM PST by tfelice (Romans 8:29-31)
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To: tfelice

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending RINO's, but the problem with the minimum wage is that the average american is just too stupid to understand why it is a problem, so I am not surprised that if it was going to pass anyway a lot of GOP congressmen voted for it.


38 posted on 01/14/2007 11:02:38 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
the average american is just too stupid to understand why it is a problem

I disagree. The real problem is that conservatives in the GOP do a pitiful job educating the American people on their views. With 12 years of GOP control they should have been able to demonstrate to the average American that government mandated wage rates are wrong.

What the GOP should have done over the last 12 years was introduce legislation to abolish the minimum wage altogether. The debate should not be whether it needs to be raised or not, but whether or not it should exist at all.
39 posted on 01/14/2007 11:14:44 AM PST by tfelice (Romans 8:29-31)
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To: mc6809e

Wrecking the economy through ill advised policies is a victory to nobody.

There's probably a little bit more going on here than meets the eye. The minimum wage for the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands was hiked in the original bill. The CNMI is traditionally a Republican area, while American Samoa has traditionally been represented by Democrats. The Democrats seem intent on conforming the CNMI labor and perhaps other laws to U.S. laws due to abuses in their dying garment industry. American Samoa also has been allowed to make its own laws in some areas. By requiring the Democrats to make anything that they want to change in the CNMI also apply to American Samoa, it might make the Democrats think twice about whether the changes really need to be made. The Democrats are on notice that further wrecking the economy of the CNMI will come at a price - unfortunately, potentially harming American Samoa.


40 posted on 01/14/2007 11:41:24 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: RS
They originally excluded Samoa at the request of it's Democrat representative who then presumably supported it .... then turned around to screw him once it passed.

American Samoa's Democrat representative has no vote on the House floor (although, like all non-voting delegates from our territories, he does have a vote in committee). The CNMI, which was directly impacted by the Democrats' original bill, doesn't even have a delegate in the House to protect its interests. It elects a Resident Representative who is essentially a lobbyist. That's one of the reasons the CNMI hired Jack Abramoff to protect its interests in Congress.
41 posted on 01/14/2007 11:49:57 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
"Democrats are on notice that further wrecking the economy of the CNMI will come at a price - unfortunately, potentially harming American Samoa."

A price to who? The Democrats get no votes from American Samoa. Democrats have repeatedly shown that they are more than willing to sacrifice multitudes of innocents to get and keep power. They have no heart, no soul, and no concern for the country. It is only a cheap arithmetic based on votes an power that they are concerned with.
42 posted on 01/14/2007 11:53:23 AM PST by marktwain
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To: RS

This might help Charlie the Tuna to live a longer life. Ba news for Morris though, his meow feast will go up in price.


43 posted on 01/14/2007 12:00:44 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: indylindy

That was ba=bad, sorry


44 posted on 01/14/2007 12:01:35 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: RS

Now dropouts from high school can earn a living wage.


45 posted on 01/14/2007 12:05:08 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: marktwain
A price to Nancy Pelosi, who will be hammered every time an exception is made for American Samoa but not elsewhere. Starkist is headquartered in her district, is it not?

And a price to the Democrat representative from American Samoa, who does have some power on committees and needs to be reelected.
46 posted on 01/14/2007 12:06:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: RS
If the Senate passes some version of this and the bill goes to consolidation before going to the President, they can do just about ANYTHING they want to it with no revote necessary ... correct ?

No, bills changed after going to the other house, or in conference committee, must be voted on again. It's usually pretty pro forma though.

47 posted on 01/14/2007 12:52:21 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: tfelice
It goes to show you that nearly half of the GOP in the House are socialists just like the Dems.

Maybe. What it tells me is that 40 percent the GOP Congressional caucus have no principles by voting for a bill they've not read (another thread revealed that many Republicans were "shocked" and "angered" that the bill had this provision).

48 posted on 01/14/2007 1:44:13 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Doohickey
Good point about the Congressmen not reading the bill (though I think the same GOP congressmen would vote to pass even if they read it).

H.RES.63 amends the Rules of the House of Representatives to ensure that Members have a reasonable amount of time to read legislation that will be voted upon. Those concerned about this should urge those on the rules committee to bring this bill to the floor for debate.
49 posted on 01/14/2007 3:37:41 PM PST by tfelice (Romans 8:29-31)
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To: RS
Now what? How do we protect the Samoan people from the price gouging that inevitably will follow by businesses there that will take advantage of double wages for 80% of the population?

Currently the minimum wage in Samoa is $3 something per hour. So the only fair remedy would be to freeze prices retroactively to Jan 1, 2007 levels to prevent windfall profits for capitalist companies exploiting residents of the island.

That way all the Samoans will be equal and it will give them a grace period to save money until the time Star Kist relocates their operations to Red China, Thailand, or some other 3rd world country not hobbled by minimum wage hassles.

Vote Dimocrat for more of this stuff!

50 posted on 01/14/2007 5:41:50 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining (Only 3 1/2-5% of atmospheric CO2 is the result of human activities. 95-96.5% is from natural sources)
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