Skip to comments.Navy orders stand down of entire submarine force
Posted on 01/15/2007 12:17:56 PM PST by rwa265
Navy orders stand down of entire submarine force
In a news release, the commander of the U.S. Submarine Force announced today that it will conduct an Operational Stand Down in the wake of recent submarine incidents.
In a message to the submarine force, Vice Adm. Chuck Munns, U.S. Submarine Force commander, directed the immediate "stand down" to focus energy and intellect back onto the basics of submarine operations.
The stand down comes after two incidents involving Norfolk-based submarines.
(Excerpt) Read more at wavy.com ...
Shouldn't this be something the Navy keeps out of the public eye?
I am interested in this news, since I have a grandson currently serving on a submarine. What does this mean to the ships at sea? Will they have to return to their home ports for the stand-down?
Can some submarine vet chime in here?
A Russian admiral would know just about everything, right?
Reminds me of a story about Vince Lombardi when he was coaching at Notre Dame.
"Gentlemen, this is a submarine."
Watches still have to be stood. The ship remains on station.
This will be a day where all departments review their proceedures for safety.
We would do this in the VP Navy whenever there was an incident or accident.
You are exactly correct. Submarines at sea stay at sea. However the next return to homeport will have the Squadrons perform inspections to ensure that SOP's bills are written and are being complied with as they are written. Generally speaking - administrative check-up and enforcement.
So when did Vince coach at Notre Dame?
My son is on maneuvers in the Pacific. He can't say much other than it doesn't effect them too much. Maybe a little extra training.
It really depends. Anyone who was out just tooling around will probably have RTP'ed already. Deployed units will continue their current mission and may be directed to perform some training underway with more directed training delivered during the next upkeep.
They obviously need Michelle Manhart to start training the seamen.
Pretty much. This sort of thing happened once when we were deployed to the Med. We did training instead of drills for three days on the morning watch, and had to spend a day watching more training when we arrived in La Maddalena for a scheduled upkeep.
Right before he started coaching at Lambert Field.
WE NEED MORE BOATS TO COVER THE MISSION!! I don't think that point is made enough.
I guess I was coming from a letting our enemies know our weakness point of view, rather than a inform the public point of view.
My brother served on a nuclear sub out of Conn. I thought I heard that once you've been on a sub for an extended period of time, you aren't put on again. Is that true? I'm just wondering if he would be on one of these subs.
His coach at Fordham later coached at Notre Dame; does that count?
It was the Green Bay Packers. Practice was going bad and Coach Lombardi was fuming. The atmosphere was very tense as he started lambasting the team. When he said "this is a football," Paul Hornung responded, "slow down, Coach, your going too fast." Everybody laughed, including the coach and that broke the tension.
At least that's how I heard the story.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Can you expound a little? I'd spent eight of my 13 years on sea duty, which was merely "above average" compared to others I know.
We also need more personnel to man the boats. Especially nukes.
I mean in particular serving in a sub as opposed to anything else because of the unique environment. Did I just make that up in my head? Maybe it was that there's a limit to how long you could serve on a sub for a given amount of time.
Ha ha. I thought you were joking.
That's Flambeau Field.
Why is the article dated a year ago today?
Oh no, there's no written time limit that I'm aware of. You may be thinking of a sea/shore rotation, which are guidelines on how long someone must serve on a ship before they're eligible for shore duty. The intent of that was just the opposite though - to limit shore duty rather than sea duty.
not Flambeau... It's really Lambert Field. John Kerry said so.
Probably never. I'm not a football historian, and I'm relating this from a story I heard 17 years ago.
It was nuts ten years ago. I imagine it's a lot worse these days.
My elder son is a Navy nuke and he says the pace is killing and he is a young man in the peak of health. Hundred + hour weeks exhaust everyone.
The subs have alternating crews and the men serve each alternative time period subject to being at sea. My son will be joining the USS Ohio next month for his turn.
Vince Lombardi never coached at Notre Dame.
That's sure going to help national security a lot. Jerk!!!
That's only true for the 14 Trident SSBN's.
Fast Attacks (SSN) only have a single crew.
So I hear. I never claimed to be an expert in football history.
Thank you for answering my question.
Due to their notoriously poor maintenance, one of the Warnings and Indicators for the Soviets was a maintenance stand down which they would have to do prior to a general attack. For US forces this would generally not be necessary and time would be better spen resting personnel. Combat operations are very tiring.
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What does a story about a band leader coaching piano players how to dive on a date have to do with anything? ;)
Who's the jerk? The Navy for issuing the news release, WAVY-TV for broadcasting the information, or me for passing public information on to fellow freepers who are interested in submarines?
Because I goofed up. Sorry.
Welcome to Free Republic. Now apologize for being a jackass. This is not classified information. In fact, it's mostly PR.
Just like on the boats, it's real easy to tell who is qualified, and who isn't.
How do the subs stay at sea almost all the time it there is no off crew?
--Want I'm REALLY afraid of is that a "stand down" means thousands and thousands of EXTRA man-hours (or tens of thousands of extra man-days!!!!) of extra training and inspection - instead of a couple of hours of REST and THINKING of an overextended force with too few subs to do too many jobs that is actually what is needed.--
The article says that normal operations will continue until the investigation is complete.
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