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Navy orders stand down of entire submarine force
wavy.com ^ | 01/15/2006 | N/A

Posted on 01/15/2007 12:17:56 PM PST by rwa265

Navy orders stand down of entire submarine force

In a news release, the commander of the U.S. Submarine Force announced today that it will conduct an Operational Stand Down in the wake of recent submarine incidents.

In a message to the submarine force, Vice Adm. Chuck Munns, U.S. Submarine Force commander, directed the immediate "stand down" to focus energy and intellect back onto the basics of submarine operations.

The stand down comes after two incidents involving Norfolk-based submarines.

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1 posted on 01/15/2007 12:18:00 PM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265

Shouldn't this be something the Navy keeps out of the public eye?


2 posted on 01/15/2007 12:21:05 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: LonePalm; sionnsar; patton; Doohickey; SmithL; TheKidster
Not really.

Want I'm REALLY afraid of is that a "stand down" means thousands and thousands of EXTRA man-hours (or tens of thousands of extra man-days!!!!) of extra training and inspection - instead of a couple of hours of REST and THINKING of an overextended force with too few subs to do too many jobs that is actually what is needed.

You can micro-manage your people to death.

Literally.
3 posted on 01/15/2007 12:24:55 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; All

I am interested in this news, since I have a grandson currently serving on a submarine. What does this mean to the ships at sea? Will they have to return to their home ports for the stand-down?

Can some submarine vet chime in here?


4 posted on 01/15/2007 12:27:30 PM PST by Palladin ("We have not yet begun to fight."--John Paul Jones)
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To: rwa265
That's not what I heard Russian admiral predicts impending US strike against Iran

A Russian admiral would know just about everything, right?

5 posted on 01/15/2007 12:28:56 PM PST by oyez (T)
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To: rwa265
focus energy and intellect back onto the basics of submarine operations.

Reminds me of a story about Vince Lombardi when he was coaching at Notre Dame.

"Gentlemen, this is a submarine."

6 posted on 01/15/2007 12:39:42 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Palladin
What does this mean to the ships at sea?

Not much.
Watches still have to be stood. The ship remains on station.

This will be a day where all departments review their proceedures for safety.

We would do this in the VP Navy whenever there was an incident or accident.

7 posted on 01/15/2007 12:40:19 PM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: lilycicero

Ping.


8 posted on 01/15/2007 12:46:56 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: grobdriver

You are exactly correct. Submarines at sea stay at sea. However the next return to homeport will have the Squadrons perform inspections to ensure that SOP's bills are written and are being complied with as they are written. Generally speaking - administrative check-up and enforcement.
Retired MCPOC(SS)


9 posted on 01/15/2007 1:06:55 PM PST by encm(ss) (USN Ret.)
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To: rwa265

Wow!


10 posted on 01/15/2007 1:09:10 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Disambiguator

So when did Vince coach at Notre Dame?


11 posted on 01/15/2007 1:11:28 PM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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To: Palladin

My son is on maneuvers in the Pacific. He can't say much other than it doesn't effect them too much. Maybe a little extra training.


12 posted on 01/15/2007 1:13:21 PM PST by rwa265
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To: Palladin

It really depends. Anyone who was out just tooling around will probably have RTP'ed already. Deployed units will continue their current mission and may be directed to perform some training underway with more directed training delivered during the next upkeep.


13 posted on 01/15/2007 1:13:55 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: rwa265

They obviously need Michelle Manhart to start training the seamen.


14 posted on 01/15/2007 1:14:27 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: grobdriver

Pretty much. This sort of thing happened once when we were deployed to the Med. We did training instead of drills for three days on the morning watch, and had to spend a day watching more training when we arrived in La Maddalena for a scheduled upkeep.


15 posted on 01/15/2007 1:16:53 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: sine_nomine

Right before he started coaching at Lambert Field.


16 posted on 01/15/2007 1:17:02 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
we've all talked about this before, and most of us agree

WE NEED MORE BOATS TO COVER THE MISSION!! I don't think that point is made enough.

17 posted on 01/15/2007 1:17:06 PM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I guess I was coming from a letting our enemies know our weakness point of view, rather than a inform the public point of view.


18 posted on 01/15/2007 1:17:14 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: rwa265

My brother served on a nuclear sub out of Conn. I thought I heard that once you've been on a sub for an extended period of time, you aren't put on again. Is that true? I'm just wondering if he would be on one of these subs.


19 posted on 01/15/2007 1:20:03 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Richard Kimball

His coach at Fordham later coached at Notre Dame; does that count?


20 posted on 01/15/2007 1:20:51 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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