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It's official, Elvis lives [inflationary cosmology saves the King!]
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 16 January 2007 | Marcus Chown

Posted on 01/15/2007 6:32:55 PM PST by snarks_when_bored

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41 posted on 01/15/2007 8:16:09 PM PST by devolve ( ....shop_invest_and_hire_wisely)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Hugh Everett's Many World's Theory that all possible outcomes are realized.

Holy moly.

42 posted on 01/15/2007 8:17:00 PM PST by onedoug
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To: snarks_when_bored
Uh, I'm so glad I read this....


43 posted on 01/15/2007 8:21:20 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: onedoug
Hugh Everett's Many World's Theory that all possible outcomes are realized.

Not quite. The bubble universes in the multiverse occupy the same causal reality; the many worlds of Everett continue to branch into separate causal realities.

44 posted on 01/15/2007 8:28:07 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

"Ah'm everywhere there's enough peanut butter and banana sandwiches an' fried chicken an' biscuits, baby!"

45 posted on 01/15/2007 8:31:25 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: devolve

Very nice, you're in your 'element'!


46 posted on 01/15/2007 8:38:29 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: snarks_when_bored
The nihilist holds that all is permitted. The multiverse theorist holds that all that accords with the laws of inflation and quantum mechanics is permitted. Either way, though, the notion that there's a deity that lays down and subsequently enforces a unique moral law fades away.

The diety fades away in part because of the concept of infinity, that being, if the diety created the universe, who created the diety? However, the same concept of infinity raises the same question of where did all the energy/matter in the universe/multiverse come from?

47 posted on 01/15/2007 8:41:54 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
...where did all the energy/matter in the universe/multiverse come from?

Ex nihilo. If nothingness is unstable, there is a non-zero (albeit terrifyingly miniscule) probability for a patch of negative pressure energy to come into being; once that happens, the process of inflation gets underway and extends to spatial infinity and towards temporal (future, at least) eternity, giving birth to infinitely many bubble universes along the way.

48 posted on 01/15/2007 8:51:17 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
Ex nihilo. If nothingness is unstable, there is a non-zero (albeit terrifyingly miniscule) probability for a patch of negative pressure energy to come into being; once that happens, the process of inflation gets underway and extends to spatial infinity and towards temporal (future, at least) eternity, giving birth to infinitely many bubble universes along the way.

Very interesting, I never heard of such concept. Of course, since i don't pretent to understand cosmology, that should come as no surprise.

49 posted on 01/15/2007 9:03:59 PM PST by fso301
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To: sittnick
There was also a scifi short story where people found out about this and started killing themselves because somewhere else another version of them did not make the same stupid mistakes.

"All the Myriad Ways" by Larry Niven.

The story involves the discovery of parallel universes where a universe is created every time someone makes a decision. Wheat bread or rye for your sandwich? Parallel universe created right there: one where you had wheat bread and another where you choose rye. The realization that such universes are created for each decision robs a large segment of the population from the belief in right and wrong. After all if you agonize over this moral choice, what good does it do you? A parallel version of yourself will make the exact opposite choice. So there is no right or wrong. Everything will occur anyway. So, given that, why not do whatever you want? Or why not think about killing yourself and in so pondering the question, another parallel universe is created in which you actually do the deed.

50 posted on 01/15/2007 9:11:08 PM PST by PackerBronco
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To: fso301
Here's a nice, fairly elementary discussion of inflation by one of its discoverers:

Alan H. Guth, Eternal Inflation (PDF format)

51 posted on 01/15/2007 9:24:50 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: PackerBronco; sittnick

The Niven story appears to be an imaginative rendering of Everett's Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. See post #44 above...


52 posted on 01/15/2007 9:28:38 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Thanks, I definitely read it.


53 posted on 01/15/2007 9:30:30 PM PST by fso301
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To: Dog Gone
These infinite universes are expanding and eventually will collide.

And no one knows what will happen then.

I've just run across this article by Garriga, Guth and Vilenkin discussing bubble collisions:

Jaume Garriga, Alan H. Guth, Alexander Vilenkin, Eternal inflation, bubble collisions, and the persistence of memory (PDF format)

54 posted on 01/15/2007 9:36:56 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If every possible universe exists then there are an infinite number of universes in which I am a saint and an infinite number of universes in which I am an axe murderer.

But in what sense can those "Doppelgangers" be considered to be actually you?

What's more, I hear people say, "I sure am glad I wasn't born in Ethiopia." In what sense would that person have been you?

One more thing. Say they perfected a matter transporter that seemed to work just fine on people. The way it worked is that it scanned you somehow, down to the very atoms and their states, and then transmitted that information through a wormhole to a very distant place, where the receiver reconstructed "you" down to the atom, out of raw materials.

Oh, and in the process, your atoms at the transmitting end would get disassembled and recycled.

Would you be willing to be 'transported' that way? Would the 'thing' on the other end have consciousness, or soul, or whatever? Would it be yours? Would it be you?

Uhhh, pass the bong, man.

55 posted on 01/15/2007 11:47:02 PM PST by Erasmus (Able was Napolopan ere Napolopan saw Elba.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

The King did not die. He ascended. One day he will return as a hunka hunka burnin' love to banish all sorrow. In that day we will truly be his teddy bears.


56 posted on 01/16/2007 4:06:36 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Junior

Will he bring the spaghetti with him?


57 posted on 01/16/2007 10:34:20 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
No. The sacred, deep-fried peanutbutter-and-banana sandwich.

"Eat it in memory of him." Uh huh.

58 posted on 01/16/2007 10:47:56 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Erasmus
It wouldn't be "me" in all those other universes either axe murdering people or feeding the poor. But there would be billions and billions of axe murderers that looked like me according to multiverse theory.

So if there is a God then He seems to have created the universe in such a way as to guarantee that there would be infinite numbers of Hitlers and axe murders and Celine Dions.

Either God is perverse or has a really sick sense of humor if this is the case.

59 posted on 01/16/2007 11:24:55 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: snarks_when_bored

Whoa, that article started out in english...


60 posted on 01/16/2007 11:31:32 AM PST by Dog Gone
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