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Breaking: Peace Agreement Between Israel and Syria?
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Posted on 01/15/2007 8:28:22 PM PST by zarf
Unverified as of this writing, and the devil is in the details, but Haaretz is reporting a historic agreement between Israel and Syria: Secret understandings reached between representatives of Israel, Syria.
In a series of secret meetings in Europe between September 2004 and July 2006, Syrians and Israelis formulated understandings for a peace agreement between Israel and Syria.
The main points of the understandings are as follows:
* An agreement of principles will be signed between the two countries, and following the fulfillment of all commitments, a peace agreement will be signed.
* As part of the agreement on principles, Israel will withdraw from the Golan Heights to the lines of 4 June, 1967. The timetable for the withdrawal remained open: Syria demanded the pullout be carried out over a five-year period, while Israel asked for the withdrawal to be spread out over 15 years.
* At the buffer zone, along Lake Kinneret, a park will be set up for joint use by Israelis and Syrians. The park will cover a significant portion of the Golan Heights. Israelis will be free to access the park and their presence will not be dependent on Syrian approval.
* Israel will retain control over the use of the waters of the Jordan River and Lake Kinneret.
* The border area will be demilitarized along a 1:4 ratio (in terms of territory) in Israels favor.
* According to the terms, Syria will also agree to end its support for Hezbollah and Hamas and will distance itself from Iran.
The document is described as a non-paper, a document of understandings that is not signed and lacks legal standing - its nature is political. It was prepared in August 2005 and has been updated during a number of meetings in Europe.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:28:23 PM PST
by
zarf
To: zarf
I want peace, but I trust no deal while the Assad regime is still there.
2
posted on
01/15/2007 8:30:18 PM PST
by
aynrandfreak
(Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
To: zarf
bttt the backdeals surface
3
posted on
01/15/2007 8:30:30 PM PST
by
txhurl
(park? they're negotiating PARKS??)
To: zarf
At the buffer zone, along Lake Kinneret, a park will be set up for joint use by Israelis and Syrians. The park will cover a significant portion of the Golan Heights. Israelis will be free to access the park and their presence will not be dependent on Syrian approval.
Sounds like a great place for paintball battles...
To: zarf
5
posted on
01/15/2007 8:31:51 PM PST
by
shoebooty
To: zarf
My first reaction is pig in a poke.
There might be one outside chance, however. Maybe the Saudis persuaded Syria to throw in with the Sunni Arabs and stop messing around with Iran and the Shiite terrrorists. Maybe the Syrian regime was feeling too much pressure from all directions.
Not sure I believe that, but it's the one hopeful thing I can think of.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:32:34 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: zarf
Never trust your sworn enemy. Syria is NEVER going to live up to their end of the bargain.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:33:18 PM PST
by
NRA2BFree
(May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care.)
To: zarf
Sounds like it isn`t a non-paper but it might work well in the funny papers.
Doesn`t seem like the Israelis are putting any heat on the Rats over Iraq which makes no sense. Anybody know why?
8
posted on
01/15/2007 8:34:51 PM PST
by
neverhillorat
(IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
To: zarf
"The document is described as a non-paper".Perhaps that's why I believe that this is non-real.
9
posted on
01/15/2007 8:36:45 PM PST
by
Eagles6
(Dig deeper, more ammo.)
To: zarf
When they say secret, do they mean another agreement brokered by uberschlamazel Shimon Peres?
10
posted on
01/15/2007 8:36:56 PM PST
by
sully777
(You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
To: zarf
I really, really thought this was from Scrappleface.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:37:19 PM PST
by
Txsleuth
(FREEPATHON TIME-Please become a monthly donor, or Dollar a Day donor.)
To: zarf
* According to the terms, Syria will also agree to end its support for Hezbollah and Hamas and will distance itself from Iran. If the Israelis believe this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to talk about selling them and they can move it across the Jordan River for the invasion forces of A-rabs and rag heads to come thundering across.
12
posted on
01/15/2007 8:37:50 PM PST
by
RetiredArmy
(Dimocrats stand for everything I hate, despise and wish to see destroyed, including dimocrats!)
To: Txsleuth
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:38:15 PM PST
by
agrace
("Kill the Jews and infidels!" = free speech; "Muslims preach violence!" = hate speech)
To: Alouette; SJackson; Salem; Esther Ruth; F15Eagle; lupie
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:39:20 PM PST
by
agrace
("Kill the Jews and infidels!" = free speech; "Muslims preach violence!" = hate speech)
To: zarf
Considering how closely tied we are with the Israelis I find it hard to believe the administration would be ratcheting up the rhetoric and pressure on Syria if this was legit.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:39:50 PM PST
by
garv
To: zarf
Except that Syria is still dedicated to the proposition of the elimination of Israel., it's a good deal.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:40:09 PM PST
by
fat city
(What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
To: zarf
Breaking: Peace Agreement Between Israel and Syria?People that believe this, also believe in the tooth fairy.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:41:00 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: NRA2BFree
How and ever, Assad may be confronted by a simple strategic reality. His main ally is far away, and an American army is between Syria and his ally.
I'm convinced that one of the reasons Condi went to the ME was to sound out Olmert and the Saudis about the Boy President. I'm also pretty convinced she's been dealing with the Syrians behind the scenes.
If she ended up in Damascus this week, I wouldn't be surprised.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:41:47 PM PST
by
section9
(Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
To: mosquewatch.com
I think if it happens, great. Just to play devil's advocate, but maybe Syria realizes that being friendly w/ Iran is worse in the long run than being enemies with Israel. peace was made with Egypt, one never knows.
To: zarf
DECRIMINALIZE DRUGSZarf from your profile which drugs do you want legal?
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:44:51 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: zarf
The Golan Heights are they crazy?
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:45:52 PM PST
by
Empireoftheatom48
(God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
To: shoebooty
PM Olmert will agree with you, with his 14% approval rating.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:46:32 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: zarf
"The timetable for the withdrawal remained open: Syria demanded the pullout be carried out over a five-year period, while Israel asked for the withdrawal to be spread out over 15 years."
So it will never happen.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:46:47 PM PST
by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
To: zarf
Most likly worth the non paper it's written on.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:49:08 PM PST
by
Kent1957
To: zarf
Look at the dates, people:
"In a series of secret meetings in Europe between September 2004 and July 2006 ....... and .....
The document is described as a non-paper, a document of understandings that is not signed and lacks legal standing - its nature is political. It was prepared in August 2005 and has been updated during a number of meetings in Europe.I'd say Syria's role and actions in the events of August 2006 pretty much rendered this crock of you-know-what moot. However, it might explain some of the incomprehensible insanity of the Olmert government's actions this summer.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:53:12 PM PST
by
tarheelswamprat
(So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
To: zarf

Kill it, don't negotiate with it.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:53:58 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: section9
Will Bush get a UN PEACE PRIZE????????????? OF coarse not!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:56:33 PM PST
by
therut
To: zarf
As part of the agreement on principles, Israel will withdraw from the Golan Heights to the lines of 4 June, 1967
I hope this isn't true because this is strategically very stupid. Of course I'm sure the Quartet sees no problem with it ...
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:57:11 PM PST
by
F15Eagle
(1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
To: section9; NRA2BFree
If she ended up in Damascus this week, I wouldn't be surprised.And if she believes she can trust Assad to honor any agreement he might make, she's an even bigger fool than she revealed herself to be this past summer.
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posted on
01/15/2007 8:58:08 PM PST
by
tarheelswamprat
(So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
To: zarf
According to the terms, Syria will also agree to end its support for Hezbollah and Hamas and will distance itself from Iran.
That's very nice on paper. How does one verify that this is so IN PRACTICE ?
To: SirLinksalot
The document is described as a non-paper, a document of understandings It does not exist.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:00:43 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: mosquewatch.com; SirLinksalot
The document is described as a non-paper, a document of understandingsIt does not exist.
And, neither will the "peace" it purports to promise.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:03:46 PM PST
by
tarheelswamprat
(So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
To: zarf
Only a fool would believe the haters of Israel will cease their efforts to obliterate Israel after signing an agreement.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:08:06 PM PST
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: tarheelswamprat
It is beyond me why the world continues too support these islamic jihad beetles. I wish nothing more than every islamic terrorist to be under the dirt, and for every land / person that supports them the same.
No more talks, no more negotiations, rid the world of these 7th century feeble minded parasites.
MAYBE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL FIND PEACE.
Until then we are all pi$$ing in the wind.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:09:28 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: mosquewatch.com
Generations change. Even crusty, rusty ol' muzzies know when they're about to be obsoleted. When you start seeing crazy, inexplicable capitulations by entrenched, old-school Islam, you can be sure they're scrambling to stay on top of a generation that might ditch them at the earliest opportunity.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:14:07 PM PST
by
txhurl
To: zarf
Take out the colon and it will be the next headline.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:17:22 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: txflake
Generations change.Islam does not. Don't hold on to a straw because the ship is sinking. A moderate nazi said "I don't kill Jews, but I agree with hitler."
A moderate muslim says "I don't agree with killing Jews, but I support hammas."
I deal with these people on a daily basis. Our best of wishes mean nothing.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:21:54 PM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
(The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
To: zarf
Another articlein Haartz says this: "Syria would also exercise its influence for a solution to the conflict in Iraq, through an agreement between Shi'a leader Muqtada Sadr and the Sunni leadership, and in addition, it would contribute to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including the refugee problem."
Looks like Bush knew this was coming down the pike considering the timing of this revelation and the troop surge.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:21:58 PM PST
by
flying Elvis
("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
To: zarf
The Mother of all Hudnas.
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:46:01 PM PST
by
Bobalu
(This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
To: Rembrandt
Only a fool would believe the haters of Israel will cease their efforts to obliterate Israel after signing an agreement.
Really? What about the 1978 peace agreement between Egypt and Israel (Sadat and Begin)? It's held up pretty well.
To: Txsleuth
My first thought was, "This has to be from The Onion."
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posted on
01/15/2007 9:56:35 PM PST
by
SaxxonWoods
(Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
To: zarf
I'm all for peace, but only if it's real. Fake peace is worse then outright war.
And given the track record of Syria, I'm imagining 'peace' will be something like the story of the rat and the python. It goes something like this:
The snake is freezing to death, he begs the rat to be let into his rathole to warm up.
The rat says, "Your a snake! You'll eat me!"
The snake says, "No, I won't! You'll have saved my life! I'll be greatful!"
The rat says, "Well, OK, I guess."
The snake warms up, and promptly coils around the rat.
The rat says, "But I saved your life! Why are you eating me?"
The snake says: "Sorry, that's just what I do, I'm a snake. You knew that before you saved me."
To: zarf
One of the few statements James Baker--of the now infamous Iraq Study Group--made that sounded reasonable to me was that "Syria can be flipped." I think the Syrians are too practical to burn in the same conflagration that Iran is hellbent on bringing on itself.
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posted on
01/15/2007 10:09:14 PM PST
by
Brad from Tennessee
(Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
To: tarheelswamprat
And if she believes she can trust Assad to honor any agreement he might make, she's an even bigger fool than she revealed herself to be this past summer.
I agree.
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posted on
01/15/2007 10:13:46 PM PST
by
racing fan
(Go Team Israel!)
To: zarf
how will this affect President Bush's plan to deal with Syria?
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posted on
01/15/2007 10:16:36 PM PST
by
balch3
To: zarf
this IS from the Onion, right?
To: zarf
Sounds like a Democrat campaign speech--laudable bromides, like "bring us together", cure cancer, give everyone a living wage, etc. As was said, the devil is in the details, and this list is ephemera, it seems to me.
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posted on
01/16/2007 4:42:02 AM PST
by
jammer
Comment #48 Removed by Moderator
To: zarf
Lake Kinneret = Sea of Chinnereth = Sea of Galilee
To: zarf
So Isreal gives up the high ground of Golan and we can all sing Kumbayah!I am sure this will work. /sarcasm on!
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