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Nuclear Blast on TV's '24' Causes Fallout for Fox (PC crybaby alert)
ABC News ^ | 1/15/07

Posted on 01/16/2007 6:06:00 AM PST by rintense

"How much longer? I hear someone," says the nervous terrorist with a heavy Middle Eastern accent, just before U.S. agents storm a warehouse where a nuclear device is being assembled. Confusion reigns, drama builds, the device is detonated and a mushroom cloud looms over Los Angeles. Such is primetime television in the age of terrorism, or as some critics charge, has "24" gone too far?

"It's the closest television comes to roller coasters," said David Bianculli, television critic for the New York Daily News. "It works well dramatically, and as far as feeding fears, that's what '24' is all about."

Sut Jhally, co-producer and co-director of the film "Hijacking Catastrophe," says the dramatic action in the show creates a dangerous climate in which the public loses some of its perspective on what's real and what's not. Of course that may be a minority opinion given the show's enormous popularity.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 24; nuclear; proliferation; television; terrorism
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1 posted on 01/16/2007 6:06:02 AM PST by rintense
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To: COEXERJ145; silent_jonny; mystery-ak

PING!


2 posted on 01/16/2007 6:07:00 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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To: rintense
Too far?

"Too far" is watching a rerun of some guy with a pierced scrotum on "Jackass".

3 posted on 01/16/2007 6:07:45 AM PST by zarf
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To: rintense

ABC is just jealous of 24's ratings.


4 posted on 01/16/2007 6:07:58 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: rintense
Have never watched the show but maybe they were building nukes for electricity only.
5 posted on 01/16/2007 6:08:17 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: rintense

can't have the sheeple seeing what might happen if we lose the war, can we?


6 posted on 01/16/2007 6:09:10 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Long Island Pete

Good 'un.


7 posted on 01/16/2007 6:09:26 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: rintense; eyespysomething

As eyespy and I discussed this morning, what we learned from watching 24 Sunday night and last night is that if your neighbors go to beat the crap out of a Muslim neighbor, let them. That Muslim neighbor might just be a terrorist.


8 posted on 01/16/2007 6:10:12 AM PST by SittinYonder (Ic ■Št gehate, ■Št ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille fur­or gan)
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To: rintense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc6HbARJ_fQ
9 posted on 01/16/2007 6:10:19 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: rintense
"Television shows like '24' also reinforce stereotypes about Arabs, he said, and in this episode connections are drawn between terrorism, Arabs and nuclear war. With the U.S. wrestling with Iran over its nuclear capabilities, these associations are dangerous, he said."

Interesting non-sequitar.
10 posted on 01/16/2007 6:10:50 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: SittinYonder

and by all means go armed!


11 posted on 01/16/2007 6:11:33 AM PST by Jazzman1 (l)
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To: rintense
"This television show is very political, and it's no accident that it's on Fox," said Jhally, who directs the Media and Education Foundation and is professor of communications at University of Massachusetts. "Given their propaganda system, it doesn't surprise me."

Okay lets all watch Rosie and hold hands all night long, will that make him feel better
12 posted on 01/16/2007 6:12:07 AM PST by boxerblues
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To: rintense
Television shows like '24' also reinforce stereotypes about Arabs

No, Arabs reinforce stereotypes about Arabs.

13 posted on 01/16/2007 6:12:24 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 119: 97-176)
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To: SittinYonder

I also learned what can happen to our country when a weak President gets in office - one that caves in to terrorist's demands.


14 posted on 01/16/2007 6:12:34 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: rintense

I am a huge fan of 24 and have noticed this year, a lot more "Are we violating somebody's rights??? (whine, whine) being done and some not-so-veiled attacks on the Bush administration.

Ironically though, they also have some interesting contradictions to that...like the time Jack is torturing a guy and he decides the suspect has no more information because he "sees it in his eyes", then his Islamic traitor ally sticks a knife in the guy's kneecap and the guy starts spilling info. In other words, TORTURE WORKED!

The fact is, there ARE suitcase nukes out there, and there ARE Islamofacists that would use one in a heartbeat if they could.

Unlike in 24, it won't go off in a remote warehouse, it will go off adjacent to a football stadium full of people, or a business district at 2pm.


15 posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:04 AM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: rintense

reality bites.


16 posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:14 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: rintense

The ABC critic doesn't know the difference between nuclear power and nuclear bomb. ABC is sad because FOX is doing so well vs. the lies of the alphabet media's biased news and programs.


17 posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:23 AM PST by encm(ss) (USN Ret.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Really? I think its a load of crap. The entire article. Oh, and once they stated that line about FOX having a political propaganda, the article lost all credibility.


18 posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:31 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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To: camle
Well, this is the first season I have watched it as it was broadcast. I have watched the first three seasons on DVD.

However, as near as I can tell, after two democrat presidents with appropriately PC aides, in 24-world the USA is now suffering terrorist attacks every day, the democrat Chief of Staff (who looks like Bill Kristol) is trying to set up concentration camps, the Chinese are up to something, and this was the first detonation of FIVE nuclear devices which were brought into the US.

While some people are carping that the show haas moved left, it appears to me we are seeing the alternate universe if Gore had won the election in 2000.

19 posted on 01/16/2007 6:14:08 AM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: SittinYonder

it also tells us no matter how nice that muslim neighbor is, they are definitely hiding something, and just might be that next out of the closet terrorist.


20 posted on 01/16/2007 6:15:01 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: rintense

The best lesson is the American family believing that if they only give in to the jihadists that they will somehow be spared, only to learn (too late) that they will only be satisfied by further death and destruction--without end. President Palmer also learns this lesson, as he releases the prisoners in exchange for yet another Muslim lie.


21 posted on 01/16/2007 6:15:08 AM PST by montag813
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To: rintense

We are subjected to movies and tv specials about the what if scenarios of super volcanoes, the impending doom of ice ages, earthquake and tsunami fear mongering, but don't dare mention a threat that is most assuredly very real and very now.


22 posted on 01/16/2007 6:15:15 AM PST by TADSLOS (Iran is in the IED exporting business. Time to shut them down.)
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To: alicewonders
I also learned what can happen to our country when a weak President gets in office - one that caves in to terrorist's demands.

AH HAH! Now I understand why they brought in Wayne as Pres. He's a bigger weeny than Logan ever could hope to be!

23 posted on 01/16/2007 6:15:36 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: maquiladora

The new President on "24" has to be a democrat.


24 posted on 01/16/2007 6:15:46 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: rintense
LOL! The show was GREAT! All the whiners quoted in the article come off as crybaby, sour-grapes, delusional moonbats upset more that it is the FOX network that has this popular (because it's so damn good) show rather than one of their "propaganda" channels.
25 posted on 01/16/2007 6:16:08 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: rintense

I only wish Fox had not put "24" up against the Golden Globes. If they are trying to educate Americans, then they need ratings to do it. The Globes slaughtered "24" in the ratings (per Drudge)


26 posted on 01/16/2007 6:16:17 AM PST by montag813
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To: Paloma_55

Yep. The MSM wants to avoid all fact and reality. They are the ones perpetrating fear, not shows like 24.


27 posted on 01/16/2007 6:16:27 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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To: rintense

WOW....BIG NEWS FLASH!
It seems as if ABC doesn't like Fox, who would know?
/s/


28 posted on 01/16/2007 6:17:05 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: ssaftler
Exactly! And his sister's whining about civil rights while the entire country is going up in flames was very illustrative of the ACLU-type mind set.

Rather than making people think in more PC terms, most people watching wanted to smack her up the side of the head.

29 posted on 01/16/2007 6:17:27 AM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Of course the new president is a democrat. Everyone know that WASP's are Republican and wouldn't allow it.


30 posted on 01/16/2007 6:17:42 AM PST by encm(ss) (USN Ret.)
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To: rintense

well I never liked the show but
if pms media really is crying about it

I am going to become a fan and I will tape and watch and send fan mail just to boost the ratings

msm the scurge of modern world


31 posted on 01/16/2007 6:17:43 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: zarf
"...a pierced scrotum?"

Dude...

32 posted on 01/16/2007 6:17:44 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: SittinYonder
As eyespy and I discussed this morning, what we learned from watching 24 Sunday night and last night is that if your neighbors go to beat the crap out of a Muslim neighbor, let them. That Muslim neighbor might just be a terrorist.

That's not what you learn. The family was right to intervene at that point. What you learned is that if that same person turns out to be a terrorist, you cannot give in to their demands, no matter what the cost.

33 posted on 01/16/2007 6:18:06 AM PST by montag813
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Since the first President Palmer was identified as a democrat on the show, I assume that his brother is one, too.


34 posted on 01/16/2007 6:18:22 AM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: rintense
“Sut Jhally, co-producer and co-director of the film "Hijacking Catastrophe"... ”

Sut Jhally's, “Hijacking Catastrophe”(68 min) is not a movie about 9/11, rather an indictment of American imperialism, and the “New American Century,” the idea of military dominance and forced culturation part of neo-conservatism, the Wolfowicz Doctirne. (Movie Review)

35 posted on 01/16/2007 6:18:46 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: TADSLOS

LOL, great point!


36 posted on 01/16/2007 6:19:51 AM PST by KJC1 (Right when you think you're really good is when you need to pay the most attention)
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To: zarf
ABC NEWS
SUSAN DONALDSON HYPHEN JAMES

How about the early morning show from a few years back, where the passenger jets slammed into our buildings and incinerated thousands of innocent men, women, and children? Very "dramatic". Although, when the other planes started to hit and crash, that's when I thought it went "too far".


This woman must be at the bottom of the food chain over at ABC. Today's big news is the Golden Globes and what all those fine celebs were wearing.
37 posted on 01/16/2007 6:19:57 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Paloma_55
Ironically though, they also have some interesting contradictions to that...like the time Jack is torturing a guy and he decides the suspect has no more information because he "sees it in his eyes",

I saw that scene as showing that Jack had lost his edge after being tortured in a Chinese prison for two years, and that had affected his ability to do what needed to be done. (cough)MCCAIN!(cough)

40 posted on 01/16/2007 6:21:11 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959)
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To: montag813

"I only wish Fox had not put "24" up against the Golden Globes. If they are trying to educate Americans, then they need ratings to do it. The Globes slaughtered "24" in the ratings (per Drudge)"

I thought Drudge's headline meant that 24 was shut out of winning any awards.


41 posted on 01/16/2007 6:21:18 AM PST by Pravious
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To: rintense
And leave it to the TV critic to deliver the real zinger. Bianculli believes Fox is more manipulative with its product placement than anything else. "In CTU headquarters — which is information central — they are always watching Fox News," Biancilli said. "Now that is ridiculous."

LOL. And the writer complains that the show is propoganda and is not surprised it's on Fox. Surprisingly enough though, the reporter contradicts himself and details how ABC and some other networks showed movies which feature nuclear bombs. Of course, those weren't propoganda, just entertainment, something Hollyweird can't admit about "24".

42 posted on 01/16/2007 6:21:59 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: zarf
Or tattoo themselves on Discovery channel.
43 posted on 01/16/2007 6:22:13 AM PST by bmwcyle (Don't forget to send the bouquet of pork chops for Saddam's family)
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To: Miss Marple

The notion of 'going down a road we can't turn back from' was kinda silly. If that were true, Muslims would have been in detention facilities years ago, just like the Japanese during WWII.


44 posted on 01/16/2007 6:22:20 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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To: rintense

Iran threatens worse daily in REALITY, and the media complains about FICTION!


45 posted on 01/16/2007 6:22:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: rintense

I need to start watching this show.


46 posted on 01/16/2007 6:22:45 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: SlowBoat407

That's how I saw it as well....and then later on he does do what's needed by offing Curtis (much to his own personal terror over it).


47 posted on 01/16/2007 6:22:56 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: rintense

"Oh, and once they stated that line about FOX having a political propaganda, the article lost all credibility."

I can't believe they refuse to admit the obvious. FOX has an agenda... one guiding principle, make money. FOX would give us 24 hours of nothing but The 3 Stooges if it would boost ratings. FOX has decided having a conservative lean will get them the most viewers. They're right.


48 posted on 01/16/2007 6:23:00 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: boxerblues
Hey, I thought we outlawed torture [/not so sarc]
49 posted on 01/16/2007 6:23:21 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: rintense

ABC? What no mention of Path to 9/11? I guess they are back on the PC plantation.


50 posted on 01/16/2007 6:23:37 AM PST by rhombus
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