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To: oceanview

Why do all these threads become anti-woman..like all these women wanted to divorce their husbands. I'd like to know the statistics about who usually leaves whom.


46 posted on 01/16/2007 10:32:07 AM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: Hildy

Its not even close. Women top that stat.


58 posted on 01/16/2007 10:37:13 AM PST by winodog
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To: Hildy

The barriers regarding divorce are simply too lopsided. OK, a man wants to leave his wife and the system makes him "pay" for it through the financial settlement in divorce. Fair enough, he chose to leave and therefore he must pay equitably. So when the husband chooses divorce, he does this knowing the penalty.

Not what happens on the flip side, where is the barrier to the woman who wants to leave her husband? It doesn't exist, the husband still faces the same "penalty" even when he does not initiate the divorce. A sane system would reverse this - but it will never happen, because the wife is looked upon as the "victim", initiating the divorce of the "evil husband", and therefore should face no penalty in doing so.

And the trickle down effect of this is - men fear marriage, because they fear being caught up in the financial ruin of divorce, even if they do not initiate it. Until society deals with this simple fact, marriage rates will continue to decline.


66 posted on 01/16/2007 10:40:28 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Hildy
My ex left me for his bimbo, and I didn't get child support. After the divorce, I worked full time, went to college (received an engineering degree in 5 years), raised 3 kids, who were 4, 7 and 8. He was a professional, and the bimbo eventually left him for another guy. He had to pay all the back child support, and decided to be a 'dad'. Now that he's in his 50's, he's finally settled down. He's on marriage number 4.
76 posted on 01/16/2007 10:44:29 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Hildy
Considering some of the ignorant posts already on this thread (which I am sure will get worse) frankly I don't blame these women at all

Why do all these threads become anti-woman.

LOL, seriously you have to ask? I hope you would have figured out the answer to that by now ;)

84 posted on 01/16/2007 10:48:51 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Hildy
Why do all these threads become anti-woman..

"Cuz they are such beeotches". (JK!!!!!!) I like ladies. They make good dinners so i can watch my racing and I can have nice, clean, pressed clothes ready for me in the morning.

97 posted on 01/16/2007 10:55:27 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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To: Hildy

That is a trend I've noted on "that other thread" yesterday, but I was shot down as being wrong and that it's just joshing.

When it happens enough, though, you begin to see it as "real"!


99 posted on 01/16/2007 10:57:24 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Hildy
Why do all these threads become anti-woman..

"Cuz they are such beeotches". (JK!!!!!!) I like ladies. They make good dinners so i can watch my racing and I can have nice, clean, pressed clothes ready for me in the morning.

101 posted on 01/16/2007 10:59:15 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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These threads usually become anti-woman because there is a pocket of angry FR men who women won't give the time of day. Rather than consider personal change, they came to the conclusion that all women must suck, since why else would they all reject them?

It's strange.
115 posted on 01/16/2007 11:07:28 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: Hildy

70 to 80 % of all divorce cases filed by women.

They probably turn anti-woman because they have been through the court system.

You should also distinguish between divorces with and without children.

Women DO get support from the man when he earns more, men do NOT get support from the woman when she earns more.

Men do NOT get permanent alimony. (at least not until the judge stops snickering)

The fact is the good marriages are not newsworthy but the nightmare divorce is always newsworthy.

Perhaps the best way to deal with the current divorce situation is to outlaw all alimony period. Divorce is a straight cash out of assets aquired during the marriage and premarital assets (regardless of increase) no not count as marital and are treated as inheritances which don't become automatically part of the marriage.

My favorit case is an obscure florida case where the court found the denial of sexual relations to be abuse and thus the wife could not use that against the husband for his obtaining a mistress.


182 posted on 01/16/2007 11:37:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I'd like to know the statistics about who usually leaves whom.

Well here’s one. My ex-wife dumped me after 17 years for a computer repairman she met on the Internet. I tried to hold it together but to no avail.

I feel I owe him a big debt of gratitude. She was a stay at home toxic wife and I never even got to enjoy the trophy wife part. She was heavy when I married her and only got bigger, I mean really huge and serious.

She exhibited all the characteristics of a toxic wife in the article except the part being preoccupied with her appearance; she couldn’t even muster the energy for that.

The spousal and child support was a small price to pay to end those dark years of despair and trepidation.

The stupid part is that as a conservative I took my vows, responsibility and commitments seriously and unhappy as I was, I would have never left her.

210 posted on 01/16/2007 11:53:22 AM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Hildy

"Why do all these threads become anti-woman.."

the same reason breast feeding threads become anti-women...the same reason threads about career women become anti-women...the same reason threads about stay-at-home moms become anti-women...the same reason threads about female politicians become anti-women...

you get my drift.


386 posted on 01/17/2007 6:35:34 AM PST by Scotswife
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