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Students required to take controversial sex-ed class
The Examiner ^ | 1/16/07 | Dena Levitz

Posted on 01/17/2007 8:53:47 AM PST by dcnd9

Montgomery County - Although Montgomery County school officials have been making controversial new teachings on sexual orientation seem as if they’re optional, the reality is that all 10th-graders must take the class in question in order to graduate, officials said.

Schools chief public information officer Brian Edwards explained to The Examiner that the 18-week health course — which includes two hotly contested lessons mentioning transsexuality and bisexuality within a three-week unit on family life — is required.

Administrators have emphasized during meetings leading up to the approval of the new sex-ed curriculum that the lessons are “opt-in” — meaning parents must sign a waiver indicating it’s all right for their children to enroll.

Officials have stressed that it’s more of a permission-based process than “opt-out,” in which the student is in the class unless specifically requested not to be by a parent.

But Edwards clarified that, more precisely — with regard to the sex-ed-included class — students can’t just pick and choose which parts of the course to study. So, essentially it’s an all-or-nothing mentality.

“If you choose to opt out of a lesson,” he said, using one of the two sexual orientation ones as examples, “you opt out of the whole course.”

And opting out of a required course, he said, means not graduating.

That notion makes the issue of the debated sex-ed curriculum important to all Montgomery County families with children in the district, curriculum opponents are saying, because they will be confronted with the teachings and expected to make a choice.

John Garza, an attorney representing Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, which sued Montgomery County Schools two years ago over sexual education teachings, said he feels that officials have not made this point clear enough and is hoping to educate parents on the reality.

dlevitz@dcexaminer.com

Examiner


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: chspe; gay; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; perversion; samesex; sexeducation

1 posted on 01/17/2007 8:53:49 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: dcnd9


Paper link:
http://www.examiner.com/a-512653~Editorial__Arbitrator_s_decision_costs_millions__does_nothing.html


2 posted on 01/17/2007 8:54:45 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: dcnd9


Article Link:
http://www.examiner.com/a-510689~Students_required_to_take_controversial_sex_ed_class.html


3 posted on 01/17/2007 8:56:39 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: dcnd9

Why in the world would they do such a thing? Are they promoting a Liberal agenda?


4 posted on 01/17/2007 8:58:33 AM PST by wastedyears ("Gun control is hitting your target accurately." - Richard Marcinko)
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To: dcnd9

You know...it might help in the title of the thread to say WHERE this is occurring...Just 'montgomery" doesn't say a thing.


5 posted on 01/17/2007 8:59:15 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (There are no moderate Mooslims !)
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To: wastedyears

Surely, you jest. :)


6 posted on 01/17/2007 8:59:54 AM PST by bytesmith
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To: dcnd9

Which Montgomery County is this? MD, PA?


7 posted on 01/17/2007 9:00:12 AM PST by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: dcnd9
And opting out of a required course, he said, means not graduating.

He would make a wonderful snake oil salesman...Why don't these gay recruiting, union pimps just say so up front.

I bet these clowns wonder why more parents are deciding to homeschool instead.


8 posted on 01/17/2007 9:00:57 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: dcnd9

So, if you choose to opt out of class, then you are opting out of graduating too.

Funny how liberals fix it so that there are painful choices for those who oppose them.


9 posted on 01/17/2007 9:01:45 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: dcnd9

so, they can opt-out before they can't opt-out??


10 posted on 01/17/2007 9:01:47 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: dcnd9
"which includes two hotly contested lessons mentioning transsexuality and bisexuality within a three-week unit on family life — is required."

They're leaving beastiality out? School board must be slipping - quick contact ACLU and demand beastiality inclusion so that students are "taught" the "full range of options available for the expression of their sexuality."

When oh Lord, when do You decide that Your creation has sunk to the depths that even You can no longer tolerate?

11 posted on 01/17/2007 9:02:50 AM PST by zerosix
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Montgomery County, MD--one of the collar counties of Washington DC and among the most liberal in the US.


12 posted on 01/17/2007 9:06:59 AM PST by Fairview
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To: zerosix

don't forget NAMBLA..they've gotta be in there too..


13 posted on 01/17/2007 9:08:19 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Fairview

When I was in the 10th Grade, opting out meant you when to the library and did a short research paper on eating healthy or exercise, while the sex ed stuff your parents didn't want you to participate in occurred in the classroom.

There is no reason the school cannot supply alternative work units for students whose parents don't want the school teaching their children about sex.

There is no reason to not allow graduation of students whose parents don't want them learning about homosexuality. Unless your agenda is to force that perspective on students that are not old enough to make such decisions yet.


14 posted on 01/17/2007 9:12:40 AM PST by viper592
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Oops, completely forgot - especially now that Devlin has been exposed as "selecting his consenting partners" in the rural area near St. Louis. Watch those in ACLU and NAMBLA pour $$$$ into Devlin's support.


15 posted on 01/17/2007 9:14:18 AM PST by zerosix
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To: dcnd9

Our tax dollars at work by the Frankfurt School minions.


16 posted on 01/17/2007 9:17:24 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: viper592
Perhaps the best strategy for conservative parents would be to educate their own children first so that they know more than midwives. Then send them into the classes so they speak out and torpedo the pro-faggot stuff with a few well-chosen facts and demolish the whole liberal agenda class.
17 posted on 01/17/2007 9:17:33 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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18 posted on 01/17/2007 9:21:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: dcnd9

HOMESCHOOL or send your kids to a Christian school! The indoctrination on homosexuality and other issues will not go away.


19 posted on 01/17/2007 9:27:04 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: dcnd9
which includes two hotly contested lessons mentioning transsexuality and bisexuality within a three-week unit on family life

I assume that the 3 weeks on "family life" means 3 weeks of sex-ed and not 2 days on sex ed and 13 days on child care. If so, what in sex ed takes three weeks? These aren't medical students in urology or ob-gyn classes. In high school sex ed we were taught the parts, how they worked, what disease you could get from their misuse similar to the chapters on the skin or the liver. That's not three weeks of study even if you count time for teenage giggling.

20 posted on 01/17/2007 9:28:50 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Samoans: The (low) wage slaves in the Pelosi-Starkist complex.)
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To: dcnd9

Dear lord I live here. GAH *smacks head against keys* Does that mean my neighbors I've watched grow up from infants will start going, "I'm gay! Gay pride!" and "Don't be silly, that's not a baby in her belly, that's a product of conception!"


21 posted on 01/17/2007 9:33:59 AM PST by Nevernow ("No one has the right to choose to do what is wrong." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dcnd9

It is all about homosexuals having access to your kids. They have been kicked out of the Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church but are now seeking access to a much larger population of children. Will the homophobes rise up and put a stop to the NAMBLA/homosexual-driven agenda?


22 posted on 01/17/2007 9:35:34 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: viper592
Unless your agenda is to force that perspective on students that are not old enough to make such decisions yet.

That goes without saying, doesn't it? Molding young minds has been the core strategy of the 'rats for years now, from elementary school continuing through college. They control the entire education aparatus, cranking out thoroughly programmed future liberals.

23 posted on 01/17/2007 9:35:45 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
Molding young minds has been the core strategy of the 'rats for years now, from elementary school continuing through college. They control the entire education aparatus, cranking out thoroughly programmed future liberals.

It goes back seven decades, to The Frankfurt School, where that method of takeover of America was conceived. Concensus building and sensitivity training were their ideas, too, and have been quite effective in pounding down objectors.

24 posted on 01/17/2007 9:48:54 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: wastedyears
Are they promoting a Liberal agenda?

Well, now you know how Rip Van Winkle must have felt.

25 posted on 01/17/2007 9:52:41 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Nevernow

We all need to fight against this type of Ed forced by the Un-Constitutional Fed Dept of Ed:


by Brooks Mick
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/17666.html


I was challenged by an extreme lefty (I am beginning to believe that all lefties are extreme) to prove that the federal Department of Education was unconstitutional as I had asserted.

QED (quod erat demonstratum--to be demonstrated): That the Department of Education is unconstitutional.

The Constitution clearly ENUMERATES the powers that "we the people" grant to the FEDERAL government. These are relatively few:

Article 1, section 8/

Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Clause 2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Clause 6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

Clause 8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Clause 9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

Clause 10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Clause 12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Clause 13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

Clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Now, NOWHERE IN THAT LIST do you find any authority of the federal government to regulate education.

Then one goes to the Bill of Rights:

Article [IX.]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article [X.]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Then one can peruse the Federalist Papers and other writings of the Founders, in particular James Madison, the so-called Father of the Constitution, and find that he wrote that any other statements in the Constitution, particularly that mentioning "general welfare," were limited by the original enumeration of powers and did not extend to other such powers not expressly mentioned. That is, if the power to do something is not given to congress by the Constitution, congress can't do it!

Thus, quod erat demonstratum, the Department of Education is unconstitutional. The power to establish such was not given to the federal government. Since it was not, the power to establish or regulate education were reserved to the States or to the people. That is, the states could, if their citizens and their constitutions allow, regulate education, or the people could establish private schools. BUT THE FEDS HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO DO SO!

QED.

NEXT!


26 posted on 01/17/2007 10:01:56 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: Owl_Eagle
Which Montgomery County is this? MD, PA?

Maryland. Definitely Maryland.

27 posted on 01/17/2007 10:11:43 AM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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To: viper592

There is no reason the school cannot supply alternative work units for students whose parents don't want the school teaching their children about sex.




No reason, except for the forced promotion and recruitment of homosexuality. Pathetic how homosexuals constantly claim that theirs is a genetic trait, yet constantly work to recruit children.


28 posted on 01/17/2007 10:12:57 AM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: dcnd9
Although Montgomery County school officials have been making controversial new teachings on sexual orientation seem as if they’re optional, the reality is that all 10th-graders must take the class in question in order to graduate, officials said.

Time for the parents to demand a special board meeting and to show up in angry droves.

29 posted on 01/17/2007 10:16:43 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Montgomery County MD


30 posted on 01/17/2007 10:17:02 AM PST by Rhiannon
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To: dcnd9
“If you choose to opt out of a lesson,” he (Edwards) said, using one of the two sexual orientation ones as examples, “you opt out of the whole course.” And opting out of a required course, he said, means not graduating.

Typical education-mafia weasel.

31 posted on 01/17/2007 10:19:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: wastedyears

Yes, and corrupt "teaching" officials I believe are some of the biggest corrupters of power in this nation: RIVALING Politicians becuase of who they have power over, and what they try to influence them to BELIEVE (DO)..~!


32 posted on 01/17/2007 10:59:21 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Marysecretary; KarlInOhio; wagglebee; little jeremiah; JamesP81

I would have said the same about homeschooling, except that's not the answer for at least 2 very good reasons.

1. Ignoring a problem won't make it go away.

2. You're paying the school district taxes and getting nothing for your money. That said, just paying taxes should give you the right to say what's taught and what's not, whether you have a kid in school or not!


33 posted on 01/17/2007 11:22:35 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: dcnd9
And opting out of a required course, he said, means not graduating.

Positively Orwellian...

34 posted on 01/17/2007 11:45:33 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: dcnd9; All

Interesting discussion. We have been discussing inexpensive ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84


35 posted on 01/17/2007 12:42:02 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: Kevmo

I'm glad you posted that; it's bizarre [to me] that someone trying to graduate and head for college had to face these issues. You know, if I'm a student and I don't want to know about cannibalism [for example,] that should be my choice.


36 posted on 01/17/2007 2:26:56 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: dcnd9

This is going on all over Mass. as well. Planned Parenthood is behind a bill, (beat that!) to prevent a bill being passed seeking to give parents the right to "opt in. Also a bill to refuse "NCLB" abstinence funding.

The new gov, we call him Devil, proclaimed on MLK day, that civil rights is still being faught, and he will continue it so that homosexuals ETC will have civil rights. And he is a black man! Unbelievable. I am so fed up with all this debauchery I feel sick.

This agenda is not going to stop and I fear it will come to blows on a huge scale, I really do. THAT is what scares me, NOT homosexuals.

I hear often that homeschooling is the answer, and I agree for those who can and will. But I cannot help but feel for all the victims of this federal and state sanctioned sexualization of children who's parents can't or don't, regardless of the reason. Just because they have a lib for a parent, are we to just throw them to the wolves?? I don't know what the answer is, but I do feel for the kids subjected to this garbage.


37 posted on 01/17/2007 2:36:10 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: dcnd9

You can take any optional course you want, as long as you take the one we tell you to.


38 posted on 01/17/2007 2:43:41 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: dcnd9
We had this exact same issue come up at my kids high school in Petaluma. Mrs. Doomonyou went around in circles with school administration and finally contacted this guy:

Brad W. Dacus, President

at:

Long story short, after a few meetings, the school set up an alternate course for the kids (and parents) who wanted to opt-out, for credit, that met the graduation requirements.

On a side note, Mrs. Doomonyou and I went to one of their fund raisers in LA and listened to Alan Keyes speak on the constitution. Fascinating.

Also, they do all their work pro bono. http://www.pacificjustice.org/

39 posted on 01/17/2007 3:03:58 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: dcnd9
sigh...I can't believe my county was fighting this almost 15 years ago...

At that time, parents got involved....many parents...hundreds got involved.

If parents cede this over to the schools without a fight....I have no words to express my disappointment.

And btw, WE-(the parents) WON!

40 posted on 01/17/2007 3:08:20 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: Doomonyou

Thanks for posting that. They remind me of the ACLJ.

http://www.pacificjustice.org/


http://www.aclj.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=115


41 posted on 01/17/2007 3:49:29 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: viper592
When I was in the 10th Grade, opting out meant you when to the library and did a short research paper on eating healthy or exercise, while the sex ed stuff your parents didn't want you to participate in occurred in the classroom.

Exactly. And that's what was going on as of this year in MoCo, too. My kid is in the MoCo public screwls, and I opted him out of the middle school sex curriculum. The trouble is that as they get older they feel social pressure from their friends to take the class. As the counsellor warned us, they mess up the paperwork so that they get to take the class they're curious about.

It is beyond my comprehension how the human race managed to produce six billion people, and all the billions in prior centuries, without having these sex education classes. How did our ancestors ever, ever figure such a thing out? Thank God that today we have the Montgomery County Public School to teach our children how to have sex. < /s>

42 posted on 01/17/2007 3:58:40 PM PST by Fairview
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To: gidget7

I hear often that homeschooling is the answer, and I agree for those who can and will. But I cannot help but feel for all the victims of this federal and state sanctioned sexualization of children who's parents can't or don't, regardless of the reason. Just because they have a lib for a parent, are we to just throw them to the wolves?? I don't know what the answer is, but I do feel for the kids subjected to this garbage.
***Please consider the Free Republic High School Diploma as a proposal which could be one answer. What do you think?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84


43 posted on 01/17/2007 4:07:55 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: Kevmo
Thanks for posting that.

No Problemo.

They are a good outfit.

44 posted on 01/17/2007 5:12:13 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: kenth; Neoliberalnot

As someone who has lived the homosexual 'lifestyle' for over 20 years, I think that children of a mature enough age should be taught the basic social facts about homosexuality.

One lesson would be enough, and it would focus on all the main features of homosexuality, including:

1) the vastly increased chance of serious sexual deseases including HIV/AIDS.
2) the underdeveloped sense of responsibility of homosexuals to themselves and others.
3) it's tendency to dominate an individual's life, through it's addictive nature.
4) the obsessive and predatary interest in youth.
5) the self-destructive nature of the disorder and of those who actively indulge it.


Graphic images of the results of homosexual activity and data about the habits and consequence of homosexuality in society should be enough to support what I would concider to be an essential part of a young adult's education.

So, yes. I think that some education about homosexuality is important. The facts.
If I've missed any important ones out, maybe someone could add them.


45 posted on 01/18/2007 5:14:23 AM PST by mikeyc
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To: Froufrou

Schools when I was young were pretty solid. I had a good education. Now we're sending kids out to battle. I would prefer a good Christian school but they can be expensive. I know several families with lots of children who homeschool and they do a fine job. Their kids don't have a lot of the problems public schools have and they don't act out the way public school kids can.


46 posted on 01/18/2007 8:46:20 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

I agree, but have noticed that the girl next door who was home-schooled has the same anger problems as her mom. I still feel socialization is part of education, but is probably better had at Sunday school or enrollment in a Christian school. The real concern, too, is the quality of education is not there anymore in public school, yet we pay more and more in taxes to hold up the system.


47 posted on 01/19/2007 7:12:03 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Many homeschoolers belong to LEAH groups, which are folks who get together for socialization, trips, advice, etc. Some even hire science teachers, advanced math teachers, etc. to come and teach their children. There are ways to get around the school system.

I believe anger is a spirit that travels down family lines, just as other sinful behaviors do. You learn also what you see, that's why it's SO important to pray for your children and to be a good example to them.


48 posted on 01/19/2007 8:17:55 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: dcnd9

Homosexuals remind me of the Communists who made Marxist dogma required reading.


49 posted on 01/20/2007 12:04:17 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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