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In need of help to a question about a proposed bill regarding Valerie Plame
thomas.loc.gov ^ | Jan 17, 2006

Posted on 01/17/2007 2:18:46 PM PST by Mo1

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To: Mo1; RabidBartender
Good find, RabidBartender!

And thank you, Mo1, for bringing this to our attention.

101 posted on 01/17/2007 3:11:20 PM PST by kristinn
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To: STARWISE

That's about the Gregg Amendment to the Ethics Bill that Reid and the rest of the dems DO NOT want to vote on

we were posting about it here

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761594/posts?page=956#956


102 posted on 01/17/2007 3:12:52 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: Mo1
I have only one question.

Could a person who has worked for say 25 years beginning at age 18 draw an early pension at age 45 because they were terminally ill? That should answer the question for Plame who is not terminal!!

103 posted on 01/17/2007 3:13:12 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: carolinalivin

?


104 posted on 01/17/2007 3:14:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dog Gone
How about a pension for Scooter Libby - he's cooling his heels after the Wilson's played their little game of gottcha.

Donate to Scooters defense fund - I did!

105 posted on 01/17/2007 3:14:30 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: Rheo; A Citizen Reporter

Case dismissed!


106 posted on 01/17/2007 3:15:09 PM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: Marathoner

Isn't that the truth. I think they need more holiday's -- lots of holidays.


107 posted on 01/17/2007 3:16:41 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Carolinamom

I think you are correct, but the dems won't let anything like a timeline and truth get in their way.


108 posted on 01/17/2007 3:18:15 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: carolinalivin

***I'M waiting For Mrs. Clintoon to introduce a similar bill for the WH travel office staff who had their careers ended abruptly.***

Oh my GOSH! Ain't that the truth? Good thought.


109 posted on 01/17/2007 3:18:53 PM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: kristinn

Haven't the moved to Santa Fe already to help Richardson run for POTUS?


110 posted on 01/17/2007 3:20:26 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Howlin; onyx; Mo1; Txsleuth; Peach; nopardons; Bahbah; SnarlinCubBear; All

Ya know, I think we'd better anticipate a war on all fronts. There's going to be treachery around every corner .. non-stop from here forward.

I think thomas.gov and the Library of Congress are going to be our friends. We need to learn to use them. Here's what comes up under valerie plame wilson:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?i108:I09342:i108PICKETT.html


111 posted on 01/17/2007 3:22:01 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: kristinn

Thanks for post that link .. I've been bouncing back and forth on threads and forgot to post it


112 posted on 01/17/2007 3:22:25 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: Mo1; Howlin

The relief of Valerie Plame Wilson??? Isn't that Joe's job?


113 posted on 01/17/2007 3:22:54 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: Howlin

I hope Rush DOES get hold of this and lets the taxpayers know how concerned the dems are about the "little people" who have to pay for this garbage.


114 posted on 01/17/2007 3:23:16 PM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Maybe we should have a bill for the relief of Scooter Libby.


115 posted on 01/17/2007 3:24:51 PM PST by Loud Mime ("She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Mo1

No problem.


116 posted on 01/17/2007 3:25:59 PM PST by kristinn
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To: thackney; Howlin
SPEECH OF HON. JAY INSLEE

There is NOTHING honorable about this joker or his poc legislation.

117 posted on 01/17/2007 3:26:10 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Loud Mime
Maybe we should have a bill for the relief of Scooter Libby.

EXCELLENT suggestion!

118 posted on 01/17/2007 3:26:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin; Mo1

Eeek!

This is going to be worth watching..


119 posted on 01/17/2007 3:27:09 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I don't know, but D.C. just won't be the same without them.....


120 posted on 01/17/2007 3:27:51 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Howlin

How bout #25#:

Dates of Service: CIA, CIA (LWOP), CIA Ð(P/T 40), from 11/9/1985 to 1/9/2006--total 20 years, 7 days.

Based on the above service and your resignation on January 9, 2006, your estimated deferred annuity is $21,541.00 per year, or $1795 per month, beginning at age 56.

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which seriously implies that she collected a paycheck until January 2006. And she submitted her resignation effective as soon as the twenty year mark was reached.

She should have told her husband not to write an Op-Ed in the NYTimes, if she was worried about her "cover."


121 posted on 01/17/2007 3:29:09 PM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: kristinn; RabidBartender; Mo1; All

FANTASTIC JOB, RB!! Hope you'll continue to be a Thomas Watcher. WooHoo .. that's what we need: more eyes on congresscritters. Forget their photo ops and nightly news, talkshow speeches. It's what they propose and vote in that matters.


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To: Mo1

Hiya again.

I was on the Thomas website and looking at the "Yesterday in Congress" link and saw this:

45. H.R.501 : -- Private Bill; For the relief of Valerie Plame Wilson.
Sponsor: Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] (introduced 1/16/2007) Cosponsors (None)
Committees: House Intelligence (Permanent Select)
Latest Major Action: 1/16/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Intelligence (Permanent Select).

Is there any way we can find out more about what this is if it is a Private Bill?


122 posted on 01/17/2007 3:30:34 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Howlin; Mo1

"Earmarks" like this should result in an earful from more than a handful!


123 posted on 01/17/2007 3:32:23 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: DBrow

Wait a minute. She CHOSE to quit, and it was her responsibility to consider all the consequences of resigning BEFORE she made that decision. We the taxpayers should NOT pay for her poor judgment in this matter.

Kill the bill.


124 posted on 01/17/2007 3:33:00 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: kristinn

~LOL~ I bet your heart broke when you heard you had two fewer residents and they were Plame and Wilson.


125 posted on 01/17/2007 3:33:43 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Peach

I thought I read somewhere when the Plame topic was hot that she stayed only long enough to get her pension and then quit. Maybe I'm not remembering right . . . Maybe she miscalculated? ;-)


126 posted on 01/17/2007 3:37:50 PM PST by maryz
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To: JeanS
For the relief of Valerie Plame Wilson.

"Wow, I can't even start to speculate about what this could mean."

Help pay for her expensive new home in Santa Fe??

127 posted on 01/17/2007 3:41:45 PM PST by CedarDave (Nancy Pelosi - Look alike twin to the Georgia runaway-bride. Now if she would only run away too...)
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To: STARWISE
Do you know what a "private bill" is?

No I do not.

128 posted on 01/17/2007 3:43:45 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Bahbah
Well I'll be. The Wilsons want the money now.

I guess Joe's book isn't selling too well.

129 posted on 01/17/2007 3:44:10 PM PST by CedarDave (Nancy Pelosi - Look alike twin to the Georgia runaway-bride. Now if she would only run away too...)
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To: Mo1

A professinal bill to protect hoes?


130 posted on 01/17/2007 3:45:07 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Howlin
What happened to the lawsuit the Wilson's filed against Cheney, Rove, and Libby in July of 2006?

I think they are dishonest, money grubbing opportunists who deserve no special treatment. Let Joe support her off his retirement and income from the sale of his book until she becomes of age to receive her pension!

131 posted on 01/17/2007 3:46:09 PM PST by PeskyOne
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To: STARWISE

But now we both do.

A private bill is one providing benefits to specified individuals (including corporate bodies). Individuals sometimes request relief through private law when administrative or legal remedies are exhausted, but Congress seems more often to view private legislation as appropriate in cases for which no other remedy is available, and when its enactment would, in a broad sense, afford equity.

http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/98-628.htm


132 posted on 01/17/2007 3:47:16 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: maryz
Maybe she miscalculated?

No... she does get a pension, she just hasn't reached the age of 56 and so can't yet collect it. This bill is just to let her get the pension early.

133 posted on 01/17/2007 3:47:19 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius

OK, thanks!


134 posted on 01/17/2007 3:49:01 PM PST by maryz
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To: thackney
Apparently she was 42 yrs old in December 2005 when this was posted over at huffington and says she was quitting her job to become a full-time mom.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/11/29/valerie-plame-to-quit-her_n_11384.html

She was not forced to quit, she did it voluntarily. What she's looking for is to be paid her pension for an extra 13 years before she's qualified to receive it. She knew when she quit she wasn't eligible unless she's absolutely stupid.

Don't forget when her lying spouse retired he had to take a reduced pension because he retired early.

Lets see, by those calculations perhaps I'll be allowed to draw SS on my 52nd birthday instead of waiting till I'm 65.

I'd really like to know just who these lying Wilson weasels think they are that puts them way above anyone else and deserves them special privileges.
135 posted on 01/17/2007 3:50:42 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: untrained skeptic
She's looking for an extra $280,033.00 to be paid by the taxpayers.
136 posted on 01/17/2007 3:56:53 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: Howlin; cripplecreek
A New Direction



'cripplecreek' had it right the other day because we're all going to get screwed.
137 posted on 01/17/2007 4:00:07 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: Howlin; STARWISE

"It would be interesting to see WHEN she "quit" her job; what do you want to bet it was AFTER the Vanity fair cover?"



The New York Post | Posted November 29, 2005 10:21 AM

Plame, 42, wife of Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson, will retire next month from the CIA after 20 years tracking proliferators of weapons of mass destruction, CIA officials confirmed.


138 posted on 01/17/2007 4:36:05 PM PST by kcvl
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To: deport
Since this time, numerous reports on Mrs. Plame Wilson's personal history have surfaced in the press, official government documents, and by government officials AND A COVER STORY IN VANITY FAIR.


139 posted on 01/17/2007 4:37:18 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: onyx; Howlin; nopardons; BADROTOFINGER; AmeriBrit; All

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/davidpostman/archives/2007/01/inslee_wants_plame_to_get_her_cia_retirement.html

It's movin' in Seattle....

WA ping-a-ding-ding!


140 posted on 01/17/2007 4:46:34 PM PST by paulat
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To: Howlin

I don't know whether to LMAO or cry cause it will probably get through.


141 posted on 01/17/2007 4:56:39 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: paulat; Mo1



It sure is! Thanks for the link, paulat.


142 posted on 01/17/2007 4:59:26 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: paulat
Inslee introduced H.R. 501 yesterday, according to the Congressional Record. He said the loss of Plame Wilson's retirement benefits was one of the "human impacts caused by the indiscretion of government officials regarding" her covert indenity.




Now that's a downtight lie!

She's NOT losing her pension, she just has to wait like any other citizen does till she's eligible.

Inslee's a lying idiot and needs to take a few elementary reading lessons.
143 posted on 01/17/2007 5:08:08 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: onyx

Well .. it's out now *L*


144 posted on 01/17/2007 5:29:21 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: paulat
Here's an excerpt from the Seattle Times blog entry by their chief political reporter, David Postman:

Inslee held a small part in the Wilson/Plame saga. At was at a 2003 forum Inslee held in Shoreline that Joseph Wilson first accused someone in the White House of being involved in leaking the name of his wife. The forum was to look at intelligence failures leading up to the Iraq war. Wilson said at the event:

"I don't think we're going to let this drop. At the end of the day it's of keen interest to me to see whether or not we can get Karl Rove frogmarched out of the White House in handcuffs. And trust me when I use that name. I measure my words."

Slate later reported that it was that event that first raised the "question of whether to investigate who in the Bush administration blew Plame's cover."

There's also a link to this thread in the blog entry :-)

145 posted on 01/17/2007 5:44:14 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Arizona Carolyn; onyx; Peach; Bahbah; Mo1
Has anybody thought to mention that she outted herself - she gave to numerous Democrat campaigns and fundraisers, using her "covert" name - AND the name of her cover company. Talk about outting herself? She did it, over and over.

The woman is a ditz. Talk about not understanding the word, "covert".

She disgraces a very needed service within the CIA - the undercover agents who risk life and limb every day for our safety.

146 posted on 01/17/2007 6:00:31 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (What happened to "Able Danger" and any testimony by Col Schaffer?)
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To: Howlin
I am introducing legislation to allow Mrs. Plame Wilson to qualify for her annuity, as one who has served her country for two decades, and waive the age requirement for collecting it.

A suitable reward, no doubt, for her services...

147 posted on 01/17/2007 6:18:23 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping.....

I'm going to add this to tomorrows anger management.

I am all angered out today......:-(

148 posted on 01/17/2007 6:19:12 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: kristinn

I know... ;)


149 posted on 01/17/2007 6:21:46 PM PST by paulat
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To: kristinn; Mo1; Bahbah; Peach
And David Corn has admitted - on TV and in his book, that he is the one who "parked" on these statements by Wilson and started calling at every turn and whenever/wherever possible, for the naming of WHO in the Bush Administration has released the name of a covert agent, Valerie Plame.

I can't remember when David Corn also learned that the person who had inadvertently released Valerie Plame's name was the #2 guy at State, Richard Armitage.

But he admitted that knowing who had released it didn't stop him from calling for the Bush Admnistration to admit that someone in the White House had released the information - a false smear and he knew it.

If Fitzgerald were a prosecutor with any integrity, he would start arresting people for "conspiracy" - meaning those who knew it wasn't someone IN the White House but who were yelling "fire fire" and pointing to the White House!!!

Isn't that punishable, somehow?

Libel and slander are. I know that - and David Corn, for one, has been guilty of both. What a slime.

150 posted on 01/17/2007 6:31:09 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (What happened to "Able Danger" and any testimony by Col Schaffer?)
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