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Parents say "enough" as child parties go wild
Reuters ^ | January 17, 2007 | Belinda Goldsmith

Posted on 01/17/2007 4:20:52 PM PST by Ptarmigan

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To: Hildy
I detect a bit of class envy here. Talk about stereotypes.

No. . .really think this is more about 'class pity'. . .

51 posted on 01/17/2007 5:45:52 PM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: Ptarmigan

Okay, I thought $200 for 90 minutes at the bowling alley was a little much.


52 posted on 01/17/2007 5:48:42 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Moonman62

Probably.


53 posted on 01/17/2007 5:51:09 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: pandoraou812

You reminded me of some of my birthday parties that I actually liked. We didn't have many.

I remember my 4th, out in the front yard. I got a spanking because I took some of my birthday cake and ice cream out to the curb to a little ragamuffin child who just wandered by. My mom didn't like that - the kid even got into some of the photos.

Going to the movies, though, was fun. Anything in Todd-AO - lots of Rodgers and Hammerstein. Oklahoma!, The King and I, South Pacific, West Side Story, The Sound of Music, and so on - except I wasn't allowed to see Carousel. It always had to be at one of the downtown theaters when they were still very grand - or at the *only* downtown theater when we lived in a small town.

Saturday matinees, about 10 little girls. Lunch first, sometimes at a very nice tea room, or ice cream and cake afterwards at an ice cream parlor. The last one I recall was Flower Drum Song - we were getting older and the "mean girls" from jr high who were among my friends acted lousy, so I didn't want to do the movie birthday thing anymore. Can't recall any family BDs after that, either.

I always make a big to-do over other people's birthdays, because that's your *one* day that is really your holiday. My own BDs as an adult have often been fun, too - just not lately.


54 posted on 01/17/2007 5:52:24 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Gorzaloon
It's not just this up-and-coming generation I worry about. How many Boomers and X-er's have huge mortgages, jobs that barely pay the bills, and zilch in the bank?

I'm sure after Hillary is made Queen-for-Life she'll nationalize all our 401K's and IRA's to subsidize all the dumb-f$%ks who were too stupid/ lazy/ stoned to worry about retirement.

55 posted on 01/17/2007 5:55:35 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: lowbridge
Of course the REALLY poor kids do their parties at the Dollar Store.

I hear the Mexicans and East Indian kids prefer their sleepovers at Wal Mart, as do their parents. :-)

56 posted on 01/17/2007 5:58:34 PM PST by Clemenza (Put down that coffee! Coffee is for closers!)
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To: El Conservador

Welcome to New York! Now you know why I have to import a wife.


57 posted on 01/17/2007 6:00:01 PM PST by Clemenza (Put down that coffee! Coffee is for closers!)
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To: Ptarmigan

It's easy to criticize these parents ... but, sadly, I bet they would give it all away for just one more dinner at Windows on the World.


58 posted on 01/17/2007 6:01:15 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Rte66
That was so nice of you to give the little child some cake and ice cream.....I remember the grand old movie theaters with the velvet curtains and there was balcony. Everything seemed so grand to me then as a child but now that I look back it was probably starting to decay. I don't like movie theaters anymore. It just isn't the same...... I remember going to another bigger town to see My Fair Lady and going to a tea room for lunch with an elderly Aunt. We had a great time......My favorite birthday was the one when I was about 6 yrs old. My sister had measles and I had to go stay with my favorite Aunt so I wouldn't get them too. She had ice cream in all kinds of flower shapes and tons of little presents with beautiful wrapping paper. Everyone made me feel so special and it is one of my favorite memories in my childhood.
59 posted on 01/17/2007 6:20:09 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah and dilligaf?)
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To: cricket
.really think this is more about 'class pity'. . .

If you say so. :)

60 posted on 01/17/2007 7:25:11 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: i_dont_chat
Be glad you didn't have to host a party for a granddaughter, then. Prices are per child...

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61 posted on 01/17/2007 7:43:33 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Gorzaloon

It's "Bonfire of the Vanities" all over again, but with greater excess.


62 posted on 01/17/2007 7:46:46 PM PST by Palladin (A woman's womb should be a no-kill shelter.)
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To: Hildy
If you say so. :)

okay.. that should have been a IMHO! . . .

But really maybe. . .it is not just pity here; but rather a general sadness seeing children and childhood transformed so quickly; if not before one's eyes - so to speak.

We have heard and certainly seen what are the new 'tweens'; the next rising teens; who save for their ages; bodies and bra size; would be indistinguishable from those already 'teenagers'. Watched yesterday; a ten, almost-eleven-year old, shop for her next party. . .(an into the limo event) and wondered; as she tried on her clothes; drop earrings etc. . .how much shorter can we make childhood?.

Seems my answer at least; came in this story about the 'little ones'. . .the good news being that some Parents are saying 'enough'.

The boundaries; the 'rites of passage'; the dress and lifestyle; that used to distinguish the child from the adolescent; the adolescent from the teen in full-bloom and they, in turn, from the 'young adult' or even adult; no longer seem to be there to contain (and protect) many children as they grow along; and grow up.

And this I do think this is sad; if not 'a pity'. . .

63 posted on 01/18/2007 3:36:15 AM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: Husker24
Just raising the next generation of pricks, thats all.

You mean New Yorkers!

64 posted on 01/18/2007 3:41:37 AM PST by Jagman (I drank François Rabelais under the table!)
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To: Ptarmigan

Their parents' money -- they get to spend it as they please.


65 posted on 01/18/2007 3:50:34 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Ptarmigan

I still don't spend much on my children's birthdays. When I was growing up we didn't have a party every single year, only for milestone birthdays. That is how I do parties with my girls, the other birthdays are for family and maybe one special friend. We will do an outing of their choice and they get to choose the menu for their dinner. Sometimes they choose just to have a family game night. But other than that, I cannot imagine shelling out 1,ooo's of dollars on a birthday. Insane


66 posted on 01/18/2007 4:07:40 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: EmilyGeiger

But other than that, I cannot imagine shelling out 1,ooo's of dollars on a birthday. Insane





It's a matter of scale. There are many,many people in NYC making much, much more than $1,000 an hour. Can you imagine spending an hour's pay on a birthday?


67 posted on 01/18/2007 4:09:32 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


68 posted on 01/18/2007 12:41:26 PM PST by windcliff
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To: martin_fierro

You had it good. My folks used to let me pick out my presents by lowering me on a rope into the Goodwill box.


69 posted on 01/18/2007 12:46:00 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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70 posted on 01/18/2007 12:48:39 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: GBA

Some people are like that. What does he do now?


71 posted on 01/18/2007 10:34:17 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: cricket

You're right. Think of a world full of little Paris Hiltons.
"I can do what I want...I'm Paris Hilton!"
Makes you wanna cry, doesn't it.


72 posted on 01/18/2007 10:51:55 PM PST by derllak
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To: Ptarmigan

My birthday is on Halloween so it was truly built for a kid's birthday party! We'd have a costume party at the house complete with games, etc., and then go trick or treating....then come back for cake and ice cream. Great stuff.

I was probably 7 or 8 years old before I realized that everyone didn't go trick or treating on their birthdays too! Went to one party of a little friend of mine and when I came home my mother asked me if I had a good time and I said yes, but we didn't go trick or treating. Mom said, "Honey, it is July...."

I fully admit, however, to having a bit of a privileged childhood and a few extravagant parties on the "big birthdays". But the difference that I see not only between then and now but even between upper middle class families back then was the context in which "extravagant" things were done.

If the kid runs the household and "things" are either substitutes for absentee parents, guilt gifts, symbols of unexpressed love OR tools to ward off tantrums.....well, then you have the young adults mentioned in this thread that are featured in MTV's "Sweet 16"....and worse.

But the way I was taught was entirely different. My brothers and I were taught the value of money, the ethic of hard work and apparently the quaint notion that money doesn't make you any better than anyone else -- it certainly didn't buy class or decency.

Perhaps it was the WWII/Depression era parents I was blessed with, but they viewed everything as a potential lesson or teaching opportunity for the kids. Sure, we had an allowance, but we also had chores and when we were teenagers, we had to pay for just about every living expense out of that allowance -- car insurance, gasoline, phone bills, clothing, toiletries, etc. If we didn't budget right or went on some kind of foolish spending spree, tough luck...you wouldn't have gas, the phone would get cut off and with no insurance, your car would be parked in the driveway...Mom and Dad didn't bail us out, either!

In this day and age, however, money doesn't seem to be anything but a new form of pacifier. It truly isnt the kids' faults here -- it is the parents. They have absolutely no common sense about the damage that they are doing.

I see lots of my friends now giving their kids cell phones and cars and limitless credit cards, etc....but not taking the opportunity to teach them budgeting skills. Then when the real world pops their kid in the face, they run to bail them out every time and wonder why things aren't going so well for their little darlings. There are times I have nearly bitten my tongue clean through.

Oh well. Just my two cents.


73 posted on 01/18/2007 11:28:58 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly
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To: derllak
You're right. Think of a world full of little Paris Hiltons. "I can do what I want...I'm Paris Hilton!" Makes you wanna cry, doesn't it.

For sure it does. . .

. . .and while many influences and/or 'confluences'. . .seems Madonna set the stage here; or rather lowered it. . .

Then the Madonna, wannabe's came along. Now Britney; Paris. . .Nicole and a host of Hollywood et als, compete in their 'trash culture outreach'. . .

(Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee. . . Wondering what the 'new' Grease; will do for her. . . maybe nothing. Maybe we will hear. . .Look at me; I am Britttt - ney(?)

74 posted on 01/18/2007 11:47:35 PM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: Hildy
I detect a bit of class envy here.

Or the opposite. :-)


"Hiring a stretch limousines to transport seven-year-olds to a birthday party is soooo nouveau riche."

75 posted on 01/18/2007 11:59:48 PM PST by Polybius
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To: cricket

You know the world has gone to hell in a handbasket when people get famous just for being skanky and raunchy....no talent needed. In my day, we frowned on those types. What happened to make it acceptable? I'm still wracking my brain.....


76 posted on 01/19/2007 12:34:50 AM PST by derllak
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To: derllak

What happened to make it acceptable? I'm still wracking my brain.....





The Hilton name is well known because of the hotel chain. It's assumed that she's rich in a way that few people are rich, and folks have always been attracted to an inside look at how they imagine rich people live.


77 posted on 01/19/2007 12:38:35 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ilgipper

The MSM said that rich people eat the poor, but dislike their taste and spit them out. Hence their wastefulness. Being rich is EVIL!


78 posted on 01/19/2007 12:42:50 AM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: endthematrix

I think being rich can certainly MAKE someone evil.
After all, the love of money is the root of all evil.
I can't imagine having more houses than I can live in, more cars than I can drive, etc. It just seems such a waste to me.
Rich people could do so much good with their money and they choose to waste it like this? Unbelievable.


79 posted on 01/19/2007 1:32:58 AM PST by derllak
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To: derllak
What happened to make it acceptable? I'm still wracking my brain.....

The 'what' is Liberalism. . .and the Libs of course, are the who that make it happen!

80 posted on 01/19/2007 1:46:06 AM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or suffer their consequences)
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To: cricket

I know. I hate to see a country so vehemently fought for with the life and limbs of our forefathers reduced to what it is today. It's shameful and disgusting.


81 posted on 01/19/2007 1:53:30 AM PST by derllak
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