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Left out of immigration debate: You
Scripps News ^ | Jan. 17, 2007 | KENRIC WARD

Posted on 01/18/2007 9:13:50 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement

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To: dirtboy

you wrote "One reason the GOP lost in 2006 is precisely because a good number were more concerned about earmarks than using their ears to listen to voters concerns."

then I wrote "Money talks and bull$hit walks.

Or by the golden rule, he who has the gold rules.

We can't raise a crummy 70k for the freepathon and you think the congress should listen to us.

Thanks for the laugh.


21 posted on 01/18/2007 10:07:57 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue
Try you wrote: I think it is so great the republicans lost. I know the democrats will be so much more receptive to my concerns.

And that is what I responded to - that the GOP has themselves largely to blame for their losses. That has nothing to do with FR's relative ability to raise funds. FR was NOT goading the GOP to load up bills with earmarks and cavort with Jack Abramoff.

22 posted on 01/18/2007 10:10:02 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - a candidate who doesn't need infomercials to convince you he's a conservative)
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To: norton; RKV; staytrue
Sarcasm seems lost on you.

If staytrues' comment was sarcasm, I appologize, but from his history it was not.

Posted by staytrue to weegee On News/Activism 01/10/2007 8:26:41 PM PST · 190 of 245

"Most illegals make more than min. wage. What makes them desireable is that they work hard, they show up for work, they don't have an attitude, they don't have drug problems, they are a flexible work force in that you can hire and fire easily, they won't sue you for some stupid crap."

23 posted on 01/18/2007 10:12:52 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

"You probably do since you seem to not have any concern about an illegal alien invasion.
....
Your and George Bushs concerns, whatever that may be."


He was being sarcastic... ;)


24 posted on 01/18/2007 10:18:24 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: WatchingInAmazement
As our president and our congress is passing out surrender flags to the citizens, our ethical congress persons pocket millions of dollar in campaign contributions.

Oh BTW, nothing illegal going on here, so heed your president and congress and move along.

Once you receive your surrender flag, please report to the nearest illegal and give him or her your wallet or your purse, your automobile keys and automobile, and the keys to your home.

You'll have to get used to being without money, food, a car, and a place to sleep.
But remember, our president and congress isn't going to tell we citizens where to apply to be an illegal?

25 posted on 01/18/2007 10:19:43 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: All
Good! all the advocates are to testify. Maybe they will answer my modest questions.

Why do you advocates say that Americans of Hispanic origin oppose enforcing the law?

Why do you advocates feeeeeel that Americans of Hispanic origin will not vote for your Party if the immigration laws, ID theft laws, document fraud laws are enforced?

Sorry, the pittance of a thousand dollar fine and filing back "taxes" (filing for earned income tax credit checks, that is) just won't do. NOT WHEN two border agents are off to do major time for document fraud and lying.

Why do citizens pay and ILLEGALS get away?

And about those tens of thousands of businesses doing the ILLEGAL hiring. . . .

26 posted on 01/18/2007 10:20:52 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

The voters, of course, welcomed this.

We had the House produce a very good bill. One the media, of course, torched, which alone should tell you its golden.

Going more conservative would have solved this problem. Giong to the left is, of course, going to make it worse.


27 posted on 01/18/2007 10:22:14 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


28 posted on 01/18/2007 11:25:30 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: WatchingInAmazement
We were never given a chance to debate this. Bush made that decision for us. He decided we needed a "new America" and that was that.

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

29 posted on 01/18/2007 11:27:51 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Umm....exactly which debates have we been included in? ;)

I strongly suspect that last year's House bill was a direct result of the public debate raging here on FR over the previous two years.

I know for a fact that we had input...

30 posted on 01/18/2007 2:46:18 PM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about support for the Troops)
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To: HiJinx
I know for a fact we had an input.

You're darned right we did. I think that's why they tried to ram it through quickly - so it would be done before everyone knew what hit them. There still seems to be a definite backlash against illegals - so why is there no momentum politically?

31 posted on 01/18/2007 4:50:21 PM PST by Heartland Mom (I want my country back. - America is worth protecting. - It's up to us.)
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To: 38special
Amnesty will just about guarantee Republican election defeats throughout the rest of this century.

At least until citizens of all walks of life become outraged about how their quality of life is affected by the dual-standards, solidification of "political correctness" and the forced injustices that will result from taking that path. Adopting unproven "feel-good-about-ourselves" policies over current law and the principles behind them threatens to insure the self-destruction of our nation. It's bad enough that 1960's radicals have become the overseers of our childrens' educations in all institutions of higher learning...now we have government itself needing correction at a time of all-time-low voter apathy.

I cited how those in bureaucracy ride along under the radar immune to the people's power, arrogantly making policy for their perpetuation over what's best for our nation. This un-voted for part of government is making it's grab for power now and our sovereignty and freedoms are in peril if this isn't recognized and corrected.

32 posted on 01/18/2007 6:34:21 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Bump


33 posted on 01/18/2007 7:20:15 PM PST by A. Pole (Orwell:He who controls the present, controls the past.He who controls the past, controls the future.)
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To: A. Pole

Your tagline inspires me, it's the first time I've seen that quote. (Hey, don't blame me, it was that public education thing...lol.)

My imagination goes wild when I think of what will happen when man can control the past, the present, AND the future. Maybe that's total control of the planet! How awesome would that be?

I'm just not altogether sure that it can be done without the ability to change one's perspective as well.

When will the dinosaur media and the dinosaur educators wake up and realize that it is not in our diversity, but in our SIMILARITY, that we will all become One Nation Under God? I pray with all I am that it'll be soon. May the scientists come together with God's preachers and His flocks for they are All seeking TRUTH but haven't yet figured that they need one another to find it.

Wouldn't truth be a refreshing change? Now If only Ronald Reagan were around to tell it. (I really miss that guy).







34 posted on 01/19/2007 12:25:11 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: staytrue
"I think it is so great the republicans lost. I know the democrats will be so much more receptive to my concerns."

Are you quoting Bush?

sw

35 posted on 03/01/2007 12:16:08 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Duncan Hunter 08 "Will you join us"?)
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