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Why Rush Limbaugh is wrong on the Liberals position on evesdropping on Terrorists calling the US.
The FBI files on Vietnem Veterans Against the War (VVAW) and John Kerry ^ | 1/18/2007 | Stockpirate

Posted on 01/18/2007 10:36:53 AM PST by stockpirate

The FBI files on the VVAW reveal that on many occations the North Vietnamese Government would call the VVAW in the United States and advise them in advance about an upcoming NV attack on the South and US troops.

In these contacts the NV would advise the VVAW leaders to start ramping up for anti-war protests because as soon as the NV invaded the South Nixon would start bombing the north.

This is what allowed the VVAW and other anti-war groups to mount such large anti-war protests on what seemed to be very short notice, ie Nixon starts bombing and two days later tens of thousands of protesters were in every major city.

So, Rush states that liberals are afraid that the government will evesdrop on their phone calls but they really have nothing anyone wants to hear.

But, I say that the libearls do not want the government listening in on Terrorists calling the US becasue they are concerned that they may be the recipent of some of those phone calls.

So if they could prevent that from happening they would have free reign on reciving just such calls.

Clink on the link to my home page here at FR and there is a list of almost 50 issues I posted here re: the FBI Files, John Kerry and the VVAW


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; hateamericaleft; jihadinamerica; privacy; vvaw; wot

1 posted on 01/18/2007 10:36:58 AM PST by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

2 posted on 01/18/2007 10:39:06 AM PST by Gritty (Fighting the jihad in the courtroom means you’ll lose - Mark Steyn)
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To: stockpirate

The link to my about me page is the red link above.


3 posted on 01/18/2007 10:39:48 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Gritty

that was fast!


4 posted on 01/18/2007 10:40:52 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

Or use this

http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/


5 posted on 01/18/2007 10:41:30 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

your hypothesis sounds a bit paranoid?


6 posted on 01/18/2007 10:41:44 AM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: stockpirate
But, I say that the libearls do not want the government listening in on Terrorists calling the US becasue they are concerned that they may be the recipent of some of those phone calls.

My thought would also be the media (see CNN).

7 posted on 01/18/2007 10:43:14 AM PST by Niteranger68 (The United States is a safe haven for all cultures……except its own.)
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To: stockpirate

I already know you are wrong, and I haven't even read your post. But I will soon and then tell you why. Understand this -- Rush Limbaugh is NEVER wrong. The truth is true not because there is truth in it, but because Limbaugh said so. I am not kidding. The sooner you realize this, the better your life will be. Ok now back to your post.


8 posted on 01/18/2007 10:45:03 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: street_lawyer

Read the lists and see for yourself, the links in the list go right to the FBI Files concerning the VVAW.


9 posted on 01/18/2007 10:46:24 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

"The FBI files on the VVAW reveal that on many occations the North Vietnamese Government would call the VVAW in the United States and advise them in advance about an upcoming NV attack on the South and US troops."




When I was in the army I spent a lot of time at the VVAW store front in Tacoma, which really irritated the army.

Besides the opportunity to try and persuade some misguided people to rethink their positions, I also got to watch fresh North Vietnamese combat propaganda films.


10 posted on 01/18/2007 10:46:55 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Ok now back to your post.

OK now back to your meds.

11 posted on 01/18/2007 10:47:27 AM PST by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: stockpirate
I'd say it's a possibility

The Demonrat and Al Queda talking points are so similar sometimes, is it really far fetched to assume the possibility of a direct link somewhere?

After all, there are only 6 degrees of separation anyway...

12 posted on 01/18/2007 10:47:48 AM PST by SiGeek
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

It does seem that reality adjusts to Rush doesn't it?


13 posted on 01/18/2007 10:48:05 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Rush is ony right 99.9 percent of the time. And this is one of those very rare times.

I think he is a big enough person to see the error of his position and learn from the FBI files.


14 posted on 01/18/2007 10:48:14 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Maceman

Ok now back to your post.
OK now back to your meds.

Me or him?


15 posted on 01/18/2007 10:49:27 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Ben Mugged
It does seem that reality adjusts to Rush doesn't it?

Absolutely. I have doubted him in the past but later when I thought about the things he said deeper and harder, he turned out to be right. I have realized better than to doubt him. Statistically he has been proven to be correct 98.5% of the time, but in reality I think the number is much larger, much much larger. Even larger than you think.

16 posted on 01/18/2007 10:50:47 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: stockpirate

him.


17 posted on 01/18/2007 10:51:03 AM PST by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: Maceman

Great becasue I can't find mine :-)


18 posted on 01/18/2007 10:51:49 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
"Rush Limbaugh is NEVER wrong."

WRONG. Even Rush admits to an accuracy rate of 98.4%, and even that's wrong. Here's why:
I agree with him about 99.5% of the time. If he has an accuracy rate of only 98.5%, that would mean that I am wrong 1.1% of the time (99.5-98.4). Since I couldn't possibly be wrong that often, it means that Rush is wrong when he claims a 98.4% accuracy rate. It has to be much higher than that - closer to 99.5%.

19 posted on 01/18/2007 10:54:20 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: norwaypinesavage

Well I must go pick up my gradnkids from school and will return in about an hour.

Be back soon.


20 posted on 01/18/2007 10:56:53 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

On Memorial Day, May 31, 2004, Vietnam Vets for the Truth (www.kerrylied.com) broke an extraordinary story about a photograph hanging in the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the “War Crimes Museum”) in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). The photograph, displayed in a room dedicated to foreign activists who contributed to the Communist victory in the Vietnam War, shows Senator John Kerry being greeted by Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Jeffery M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph during the Memorial Day weekend in response to a general request for photographs and records detailing Kerry’s activities on behalf of the enemy.

21 posted on 01/18/2007 10:59:36 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: stockpirate

While its not impossible that there are certain anti-war groups that are actually colluding with Al Queda or other enemy organizations, the point remains that the vast majority of leftist anti-war nitwits will never actually be spied on by the NSA because they are of no value.

Most of them would be positively thrilled to get the attention. But they won't get their wish.


22 posted on 01/18/2007 11:01:11 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: stockpirate
You are correct. I am sure that there are certain Democrats in the United States that are in close contact with al Qaeda and are working for their victory. They did the same thing for the Communist in North Vietnam and before Hitler invaded their God Stalin they were trying to make sure that NO war supplies made their way to the UK. The American people do not realize that living among us are people who claim to be Americans but want the United States to be destroyed. They are in the US Senate, the US House and many, many in the Media in the United States. Outside of CONUS IMHO 99.9% of the media want the US to be destroyed.
23 posted on 01/18/2007 11:13:43 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: norwaypinesavage
Since I couldn't possibly be wrong that often, it means that Rush is wrong when he claims a 98.4% accuracy rate

How dare you, how DARE you ?? How dare you claim to be right more often when the MahaRushie himself in all his humility and modesty claims to be right only a scant 98.5% of the time !? Such audacity, unbelievable ! You infidel, you kaffir, you. You will call 1-800-282-2882 and apologize to Rush right now in front of everyone, you will beg his forgiveness, AND you will promise never to doubt him again. No, not on OpenLine Friday, but *today*, 1/18/2007. I am not listening right now as I am busy, but I will check the podcast later in the afternoon.

24 posted on 01/18/2007 11:18:01 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: norwaypinesavage

Your logic is flawed. Since you agree with him 99.5 percent of the time, you could be wrong 1.6 percent of the time like he is plus be an extra 0.5 percent wrong because he was right the other 98.4 percent of the time.


25 posted on 01/18/2007 11:18:10 AM PST by chopperman
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To: smoothsailing

Has anyone translated the legend below that picture?


26 posted on 01/18/2007 11:20:25 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: stockpirate
The FBI files on the VVAW reveal that on many occations the North Vietnamese Government would call the VVAW in the United States and advise them in advance about an upcoming NV attack on the South and US troops.

Perhaps you can post a more direct link to the FBI document that supports this allegation, and give the appropriate page number. I find it hard to believe, although I am prepared to be proven wrong.

It seems doubtful the members of the North Vietnamese government would just place a call from Hanoi. Even if the call came from elsewhere, is it likely that the caller would not want to state the message in plain English. Furthermore, if the US government had this kind of dirt on the VVAW, why wasn't it used at the time, either to make arrests or to disgrace the organization?

I tried googling about this and the only likely links seemed to trace back to you.

27 posted on 01/18/2007 11:26:05 AM PST by wideminded
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To: chopperman
Please, no more numbers rackets for today.

It's bad enough that I'm plodding through Physics at my university but Statistics on FR are overload.

28 posted on 01/18/2007 11:41:05 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: chopperman
"you could be wrong 1.6 percent of the time like he is plus be an extra 0.5 percent wrong"

This is, of course, totally inconceivable.

29 posted on 01/18/2007 11:43:08 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: RacerF150

A WABC radio morning host, Ron Kuby is a very good friend, (his words) with Lynne Stewart. My guess is that he would be most concerned about the government hearing his conversations with that disgusting terrorist sympathizer. She remains out on bail for some unfathomable reason.


30 posted on 01/18/2007 11:45:21 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Ben Mugged
Yes, if you click on the picture itself, it will take you to a description of the events that led to the release of the picture.Included is both a translation in English and in French of the legend below the picture.
31 posted on 01/18/2007 11:55:27 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: wideminded

If you go to the about me page and click on item number 12 it is the link to the first post on that topic. Once ther you will find a direct linkto the FBI files and the page number to read.


32 posted on 01/18/2007 12:06:11 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: OldFriend
A WABC radio morning host, Ron Kuby is a very good friend, (his words) with Lynne Stewart. My guess is that he would be most concerned about the government hearing his conversations with that disgusting terrorist sympathizer. She remains out on bail for some unfathomable reason.

Lynne Stewart deserves to suffer in the most inhumane way possible. If I saw her drowning, I would pi$$ on her head.

33 posted on 01/18/2007 12:08:45 PM PST by Niteranger68 (The United States is a safe haven for all cultures……except its own.)
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To: wideminded

I tried googling about this and the only likely links seemed to trace back to you.

that is becasue I amthe only one with the gohones to put it out here!

The rest are scared rabbits.





34 posted on 01/18/2007 12:13:41 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: admin

May want to consider putting this onthe sideboard or bump to the top as it is generating a lot of interest!


35 posted on 01/18/2007 12:15:05 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: wideminded

KERRY’S VIETNAM VETERANS AGAINST THE WAR WERE IN DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE NORTH VIETNAMESE AND VIET CONG COMMUNISTS BY TELEPHONE COORDINATING ANTI-WAR ACTIVITIES IN AMERICA
Kerry and his ilk were in direct communications with the Communists and coordinating anti-war activities in America. Go here FBI FILES and check out pages 21 through 25 for proof.

Kerry betrayed America, he betrayed his fellow Vietnam Veterans, and he betrayed our POW’s and their families.

KERRY also went to Paris and met with the Communist North Vietnamese and the Communist Viet Cong representatives to discuss how America should surrender. KERRY then came back to America and went on TV to spew the Communist’s propaganda. KERRY IS A TRAITOR TO AMERICA


36 posted on 01/18/2007 12:19:59 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: RacerF150

And why is she not in jail. Martha Stewart had to be in jail awaiting appeal, this terrorist lover is out walking the streets.


37 posted on 01/18/2007 12:36:51 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: stockpirate
If you go to the about me page and click on item number 12 it is the link to the first post on that topic. Once ther you will find a direct linkto the FBI files and the page number to read.

... 7. VVAW taking directions from the North Vietnamese Communist Government.

No link or page number here.

38 posted on 01/18/2007 12:37:08 PM PST by wideminded
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To: stockpirate
Go here FBI FILES and check out pages 21 through 25 for proof.

No link in this post.

39 posted on 01/18/2007 12:39:18 PM PST by wideminded
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To: norwaypinesavage

I was only kidding, hope you realized that.


40 posted on 01/19/2007 2:53:13 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Did you think I was serious?


41 posted on 01/19/2007 6:12:41 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: Gritty
As anyone who traveled behind the iron curtain can attest, the specter of the cartoon you post is far less frightening that this:




42 posted on 01/19/2007 5:47:43 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Ben Mugged

"Who's this tall ugly guy?"


43 posted on 01/23/2007 5:04:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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