Skip to comments.Methodist ministers launch anti-Bush library petition
Posted on 01/18/2007 12:27:36 PM PST by LA Woman3
A group of Methodist ministers has begun a national petition drive asking Southern Methodist University to remove itself from negotiations to get the George W. Bush presidential library.
"As United Methodists, we believe that the linking of his presidency with a university bearing the Methodist name is utterly inappropriate," reads the petition, which is posted online at ProtectSMU.org.
"Because SMU is owned by the United Methodist Church, the imposition of a George W. Bush library, museum and think tank at SMU will irreparably connect the denomination with this presidency, said Rev. Andrew J. Weaver, a petition organizer in Brooklyn, N.Y. and 1978 graduate of SMUs Perkins School of Theology. Members of the UMC, therefore, should be able to express their opinion on this matter before a final decision is reached.
Campus officials said that the petition organizers have a right to express their opinions, but they dont believe the sentiment is widespread.
Its not the least bit surprising there would be views from some segment of the movement, as large as it is, that would not want to see the library, museum and institute come to SMU, said Brad Cheves, a university vice president. However, we continue to believe that a vast majority of the Methodist and the university community support SMUs efforts.
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What a bunch of self important pukeheads.
Methodists turning Stalinist too, it looks like.
The Fidel Castro Memorial Library is more apropos for these "ministers."
I'm sure the University of Central Florida will take it. Where do we apply?
Well, the Methodists do seem to be the most liberal church. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
SMU is tainted by the NCAA football "death penalty" if I recall. They were caught recruiting religiously.
Lots of commies in the upper reaches of the Methodist church. Most methodists are unaware of the far-left leanings of their top brass.
The Methodist Church....
...where politicians and liberals go to pretend to be Christians.
Good for you! They need to hear from their members, imo. Their conduct in this matter is shameful.
If you ever get a chance, take a look at the Methodistas Book of Resolutions for 2004.. It's a little look into the cream that rose to the top of that church.
It reads like the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital with a smattering of scripture to cover up their hatred of Bush and anything Republican. They should have ended the thing with "workers of the world, UNITE!!"
Being illiterate, what use would they have of a presidential library, or even of a common one?
Was SMU in the lead? Were they even a serious contender?
The Methodists fell off the bandwagon a long time ago.
And my Mom asks why I don't go to church anymore. Maybe it was our dike minister that put me over the edge, but it was really their stance on gun control.
Sounds about right for them. In similar fashion, the new dean of students at the Methodist School of Theology at Emory University is a woman who brings the great expertise to the job of having a Phd (in political science) and she and her parents have been life-long "civil rights" activists; just what "Christian" theology students need, right?? She just left her job as the head of the national United Methodist Office titled the Women's Division, two years ahead of the four-year+ period they thought she had committed to. Maybe the fact that the United Methodist Women (national organiztion of local church women which supplies the bulk of the $$$ backing the Women's Division) saw its membership go to zero in over 750 United Methodist churches in the last two years had something to do with it. Is the United Methodist Church Women's Division's loss Emory's gain??? I wonder what the actual theology professors at Emory think.
These are probably the same Methodists who think Fidel Castro is a good guy.
HERE HERE! THEY PRETEND TO BE CHRISTIANS UNTIL THEY LEAVE THE CHURCH AND THEN MORPH BACK INTO THEMSELVES.
I would be interested to know if there are any private universities with a specific religios affiliation that have a presidential library, seems like most go to the larger public university of the state.
The problem for Bush is the two major public universities in Texas are already taken with his dad's at Texas A&M and UT with LBJ. I would think he could go with Texas Tech since it's west Texas sorta near Midland/Odessa where he lived for a while. I know they're Methodists though and his wife went to SMU so I understand that choice also.
I'm a methodist, but I haven't been to church since I was 14 and my parents quit making me go to Sunday School. Just imagine trying to tell all the little old ladies and school teachers that their church is run by a bunch of anti-American left-wing nut-jobs.
Mainstream Christian churches at their finest.
Hope the university holds firm.
Texas Tech was one of the Universities that was considered for the Bush Library. I'm not sure why they didn't make the final three.
SMU needs to understand that the "leadership" of the UMC is totally out of sinc with the people in the pews. Mostly we ignore them, but once in awhile they really need slapping down. SMU will hear from me.
It's a shame to see ANY church inject itself into the political arena. And it's ruining our churches, imo, and turning people away.
People don't want their churches to get involved in politics; they have enough of that in the workplace and in the 24/7 news cycle.
The George and Laura Bush are Methodists. I would not be surprised in the least bit if, in 2009, they bolted for AMiA or the Anglican Network along with his parents.
"This is the part of the Cold War that the Russians won."
The Russians did not foment this or win it. They didn't need to. Completely American Marxists were the designers and propagators of it; and they still are.
The Methodist "deaconess" program - trains young women as dedicated church volunteers - uses training manuals that are right out of the 1960s/70s Marxist "liberation theology" textbooks.
As par for the course, the Dallas Morning News is giving far too much publicity to these liberal morons.
Every article they print regarding the libary has a big but (not like Hillary's but big)
It's like BUT some people oppose,etc.
If they cared about Dallas, they would be extolling the great advantage of having the library here, but noooooo.
I hate that paper.
My kids went to a Methodist school about 4 years ago...we had an unfortunate incident that I won't get into here (too involved) but it became clear that this particular church was lefty, lefty, lefty...and they lost many families and church members because of it....
At my husband's Episcopal church (Catholic lite)..they have a sign on one wall showing the growth of the church over the years with important historical markers (ie. WWII, Vietnam etc.)
Under the current Iraqi Freedom spot it says "invasion of Iraq" instead....
I think that that palce is a serpent's pit any way (for personal reasons) but that sign PISSED ME OFF...and so far, the hubby hasn't addressed it...it isn't my church so I just take deep breaths on the occasions I have to go there...ugggghhh
As I understand it, it's pretty much a done deal that it's going to SMU.
What you said.
Episcopal churches. Yeah, around here it pretty much depends on the individual church. Mine is fairly liberal, but conservative enough that I'm not uncomfortable.
I don't think you speak for Southern Baptists.
UMHB in Belton TX is waiting for the call. They'll take it in a heartbeat, or less.
Again I ask, how can one be a liberal and a Christian at the same time.
The Methodist denomination is pro-choice. There's one close by and would be convenient for us, but we drive to a church in the Wesleyan denomination about 15 min away because it's conservative and pro-life. It was actually difficult finding a Protestant church that's pro-life.
I hadn't known that, Dr. Scarpetta. What a shame.
I still think it would behoove churches to stay away from politics altogether, but I guess in today's day and age, it's increasingly difficult and irresistable.
We were members of the Presbyterian USA denomination until we found out that pastors and their families get abortion coverage in their medical plan. (even for partial-birth abortion)
When we decided to leave, we learned that the Methodists, Lutheran, United Church of Christ, etc. all are pro-choice. We have to drive by several churches to get to our Wesleyan church.
I doubt if John and Charles Wesley would recognize the United Methodist Church as a part of thier vision.
I just started last year going to a conservative Anglican church and we love it. A lot of people have left the town's Episcopal church for a variety of reasons and our little congregation has grown substantially. I'm so happy there!
Have to go get ready for dinner out. Bbl
Rough week for me as a member of the UMC.
First, I learned of the UMC amicus brief in the Webster case.
Next, I learned that the UMC is a member of the pro-abotion group "Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice."
I'm at an utter loss for words.
We don't have one around here.
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