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Redford demands apology over Iraq
BBC News ^ | January 19, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/19/2007 5:58:44 AM PST by MadIvan

Hollywood legend Robert Redford has called on US leaders to apologise for the war in Iraq.

The actor was speaking at the start of the Sundance Film Festival in Utah, where the opening movie recalled protests over the Vietnam war in 1968.

Redford said he, like many others, had shown a "spirit of unity" with the US government after 11 September 2001.

"We put all our concerns on hold to let the leaders lead," he said. "I think we're owed a big, massive apology."

The actor, whose Sundance Institute for independent film runs the annual festival, usually steers clear of political messages in his opening speech.

Festival opener Chicago 10 recounts the demonstrations surrounding 1968's Democratic National Convention, which saw protestors clash with the National Guard.

Using a cutting-edge blend of historical footage and animation, director Brett Morgen's film examines the trial of the famed "Chicago Seven," who were convicted of inciting riots.

Morgen, who took the stage to a standing ovation after the screening, said one of his goals in making the film was to "mobilise the youth in the country to get out and stop this war".

His film is one of many referencing the Iraq conflict at this year's Sundance festival.

Ghosts of Abu Ghraib deals with the abuses that occurred in an Iraqi prison in 2003, while No End In Sight is an examination of the Bush administration's conduct in the country.

Taboos broken

The programme for the festival has attracted controversy with the inclusion of films that include shocking sexual content.

A documentary called Zoo deals with the practice of bestiality.

And the dark drama Hounddog portrays the rape of a young girl, played by 12-year-old actress Dakota Fanning.

"Those are issues that are on the table, whether you want to face them or not," said Redford.

"If you don't expose these things, if you don't put the light on them, then they could get worse."

But the event also features many films with a more uplifting feel.

The Good Life, from writer and director Steve Berra, tells of a young man running an old cinema in a small town.

Padre Nuestro is about a young man who meets up with a group of illegal immigrants heading from Mexico to New York after he chooses to flee his criminal past.

More than 120 films will be screened throughout the 10-day festival, which ends on 28 January.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: apology; bush; iraq; redford
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Redford and his bufoonery add nothing to popular culture.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 01/19/2007 5:58:45 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/19/2007 5:59:14 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

>>>Hollywood legend Robert Redford....

Who?


:P


3 posted on 01/19/2007 5:59:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MadIvan

hows about Redford apologizing for "the way we were"?


4 posted on 01/19/2007 6:01:05 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: MadIvan
Right after Hollyweird apologizes for Redford.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

5 posted on 01/19/2007 6:01:07 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: MadIvan
Redford said he, like many others, had shown a "spirit of unity" with the US government after 11 September 2001.

LOL!!!!!!


6 posted on 01/19/2007 6:01:49 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: camle
He should apologise for most of his films apart from "The Natural" and "A River Runs Through It".

Regards, Ivan

7 posted on 01/19/2007 6:02:04 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
"Shaddap and retire"
8 posted on 01/19/2007 6:02:17 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: MadIvan

Redford should apologize for "Sneakers", among other bombs he's been in...


9 posted on 01/19/2007 6:02:18 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: MadIvan
Redford and his bufoonery add nothing to popular culture.

And talk about delusions of grandeur...

10 posted on 01/19/2007 6:02:47 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MadIvan

This is one of the reasons I boycotted Hollywood. I stopped going to the movies after 9/11. These Hollywierd people make me sick to my stomach and never know when to keep their mouths shut!


11 posted on 01/19/2007 6:04:53 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: MadIvan

I demand Redford apologize for An Indecent Proposal.


12 posted on 01/19/2007 6:06:17 AM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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To: MadIvan

So sorry, Bob, SO SORRY. YOU are so sorry.


13 posted on 01/19/2007 6:06:39 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: MadIvan

Up his nose with a rubber hose.


14 posted on 01/19/2007 6:06:55 AM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: areafiftyone
I have some video tapes of newsreels from the 1940's. During World War II, it was customary for film stars to appear in public information advertisements in support of the war - Veronica Lake, for example, had tips for women who were working in munitions factories.

How times have changed.

Regards, Ivan

15 posted on 01/19/2007 6:07:07 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
I call for Redford to STFU.

Actors - is there anything they don't know?

16 posted on 01/19/2007 6:07:17 AM PST by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA} Proud Infidel Since 1968)
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To: AngryJawa
Actors - is there anything they don't know?

Lately? How to act.

Regards, Ivan

17 posted on 01/19/2007 6:08:07 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

"Hi! I'm Robert Redford and I'm famous...so, I'm smart!"


18 posted on 01/19/2007 6:08:10 AM PST by RexBeach (In war there is no substitute for victory. - Douglas MacArthur)
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To: MadIvan

When it's all said and done, Redford is just a guy paid to read something that someone else wrote. He contributes little to society.


19 posted on 01/19/2007 6:08:15 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: MadIvan
He and his ilk are kind of amusing. Why would a group of people who, for a living, wear costumes and makeup and have themselves filmed 'making pretend' think they are qualified to tell the rest of us how to think?
20 posted on 01/19/2007 6:08:37 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: MadIvan

Stuff it, pretty boy!


21 posted on 01/19/2007 6:08:37 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: MadIvan
"Those are issues that are on the table, whether you want to face them or not," said Redford. "If you don't expose these things, if you don't put the light on them, then they could get worse."
How brave! How daring of all these leftists to really get out in front and face this issues.

Like the violence and slavery that 3/4 billion women submit to daily under Islam. I bet there a lot of movies about that.

22 posted on 01/19/2007 6:08:58 AM PST by samtheman
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To: AngryJawa

Shouldn't the question be "Is there anything actors actually do know?"


23 posted on 01/19/2007 6:09:06 AM PST by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: MadIvan
What an arsehole. And he looks like crap now too. Har...


24 posted on 01/19/2007 6:09:13 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: MadIvan

Dear Bob,

I am sorry that you are an ignoranus (*)

FReegards,

dinasour

(*)Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an asshole.


25 posted on 01/19/2007 6:09:24 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen, SnowFlake, and Eeevil Doer.)
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To: MadIvan

You'll get nothing and like it!

26 posted on 01/19/2007 6:10:00 AM PST by Niteranger68 (The United States is a safe haven for all cultures……except its own.)
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To: veronica
The old axiom about having the face one deserves springs to mind.

Regards, Ivan

27 posted on 01/19/2007 6:10:18 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: dinasour

I would send $100 to the RNC if GWB would get fed up and just tell Redford to go screw himself, or words to that effect.


28 posted on 01/19/2007 6:10:22 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: MadIvan
Pompous and absurd is the only way to out it. He should apologize for still pestering the public after he grew old and still tried to play young men.
29 posted on 01/19/2007 6:10:31 AM PST by Taichi
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To: MadIvan

Next time we have a dem president you'll see a flood of flag waiving, American hero, salute the flag type movies with all the usual idiots headlining.


30 posted on 01/19/2007 6:10:44 AM PST by BigDaddyTX (Don't Mex with Texas)
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To: MadIvan

They sure have. I love watching the movies from the 40's and the newsreels about the war. Hollywood was patriotic then. That's when the studios spent money and countless hours creating real stars before they even got on the screen. The movies stars came out with real talent and skills. Now they are all the same - same looks and same inability to act but they sure can open their fat traps when its' something they don't like.


31 posted on 01/19/2007 6:11:23 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: MadIvan
And the dark drama Hounddog portrays the rape of a young girl, played by 12-year-old actress Dakota Fanning... "Those are issues that are on the table, whether you want to face them or not," said Redford.

The sexualization of children continues apace. There is a special ring in Hell reserved for these folks.

32 posted on 01/19/2007 6:12:25 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: RacerF150

I bet you get a free bowl of soup with this! But it looks good on you(rolls eyes)!!!


33 posted on 01/19/2007 6:12:55 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: MadIvan
Did you say Veronica Lake? YUMMMMMM!!


34 posted on 01/19/2007 6:13:14 AM PST by Spruce
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To: veronica

Wow, he looks like Dorian Gray's picture!


35 posted on 01/19/2007 6:13:16 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: MadIvan

Redford should apologize for not using sunscreen and making us look on in horror at his leathery hide each time he opens his wrinkly old pie-hole.


36 posted on 01/19/2007 6:13:56 AM PST by fleagle
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To: MadIvan

Is Redford still alive? Or was it only his career that bit the berry?


37 posted on 01/19/2007 6:14:52 AM PST by LIConFem
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To: Spruce
And, she could act.

Very often, here in the UK, television will play old films from the 1930's and 1940's - even the bad films from that era are better than many of the supposedly "good" films from ours.

One bad British film called "The Travelling Companions" springs to mind - the plot is not all that good, but it had Sir John Gielgud in a comedic role, as a witty and sarcastic teacher who satirised his fellow teachers whilst playing the piano. Try imagining Redford doing that!

Regards, Ivan

38 posted on 01/19/2007 6:15:56 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: areafiftyone

Re #11, Well said!!!


39 posted on 01/19/2007 6:16:33 AM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: MadIvan

And the backstabbing beat goes on.

Just like in Vietnam.


40 posted on 01/19/2007 6:16:36 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Our troops are smart. It's our politicians who are stupid.)
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To: MadIvan
And his catalog sucks and his restaurant is overpriced for the caliber of food.
41 posted on 01/19/2007 6:16:37 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (2007 resolution: learn how to rail a berm.)
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To: MadIvan
Actors - is there anything they don't know? Lately? How to act

You aren't joking

42 posted on 01/19/2007 6:17:03 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: LIConFem
It depends on what the meaning of "alive" is. From a biological perspective yes, from a limelight perspective, no. Which is presumably why he did the Hollywood equivalent of zapping himself with a defibrilator: he bashed President Bush.

Regards, Ivan

43 posted on 01/19/2007 6:17:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Two Redford "products" are acceptable - "The Natural" was an all right film. "A River Runs Through It" made me want to visit Montana.

Regards, Ivan

44 posted on 01/19/2007 6:19:03 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
"I think we're owed a big, massive apology."

I got your apology right here, Mr. Washed-up Has-been.
45 posted on 01/19/2007 6:20:30 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (You'll shoot your eye out, kid)
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To: MadIvan

Too much sun-dance. :)


46 posted on 01/19/2007 6:20:57 AM PST by veronica (http://images20.fotki.com/v360/photos/1/106521/3848737/gladysPSCP-vi.jpg)
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To: MadIvan

Now I wonder how long 'big bad Redford' gives the President to reply to his order? I am mighty afraid he will wait a long time. If it hadn't been for Hollywood and the left-wing media, we may have been out of Iraq by now. They are for anything (like Iraq winning) if the President is behind it. These people make me sick~~~!!!!!!! Your description of the films they are making shows how sick these people are~~


47 posted on 01/19/2007 6:22:27 AM PST by jaycee
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To: MadIvan
A documentary called Zoo deals with the practice of bestiality.
And the dark drama Hounddog portrays the rape of a young girl, played by 12-year-old actress Dakota Fanning.
"Those are issues that are on the table, whether you want to face them or not," said Redford.
"If you don't expose these things, if you don't put the light on them, then they could get worse."

Mighty weak justification for such self-indulgenent exhibitionism.

48 posted on 01/19/2007 6:22:34 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: mewzilla

Redford and his bufoonery add nothing to popular culture.
And talk about delusions of grandeur..."

Redford also has unique views as to private property.
HIS acreage is PRIVATE. Everything you and I own is subject to his opinions and the jurisdiction of people Redford would vote into office. He did as he wished in a large canyon near Park City to build his place. Then he bitches about someone trimming trees for safety in their yards. He also owns properties in Nevada City, California. Rentals. He keeps them nice, but there he is surrounded by the interferring opinions of the Birkenstock and Brie crowd.

Truly a man who believe in "do as I say- not as I do.".


49 posted on 01/19/2007 6:24:04 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: veronica

Gosh, I can't believe that picture~~ugh!!!


50 posted on 01/19/2007 6:24:19 AM PST by jaycee
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