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The Triumph of the Treasonous Liberal Media
January 19 20007 | jveritas

Posted on 01/19/2007 7:21:33 AM PST by jveritas

In the last 2 years the treasonous liberal media has perfected the art of controlling the knee jerk conservatives in even more efficient way than they control their own left wing lunatic base. It is shocking to see the large number of conservatives who fell pray to the lies and distortions of the liberal media. The liberal media succeeded through lies and distortions and incredible gullibility by many conservatives to divide the conservative base, and drew a wedge between many of them and the President as well between them and the Republican Party.

Many times during the day, we see instant knee jerk reactions by people on this forum, on other conservative forums, on radio talk shows stupidly reacting to a misleading title, or a distorted article printed by the liberal press or broadcasted on liberal news networks. The knee jerk conservatives get all riled up against the President or the Republican party because they constantly believe and without any rational thought the lies that are written in the New York Times, the Washington Post, AP etc… or broadcasted on CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC etc…

The irony is that those same knee jerk conservatives have this condescending attitude and call the voters the “Sheeple” because in their mind the voters believe everything the liberal media tell them, when in reality it them who do believe the lies of the liberal media. There is no danger when liberals believe their own media because it is expected, but it is very dangerous for conservatives to fall for these lies because it will divide our base.

So yes, the liberal treasonous media has been very triumphant in the last 2 years, they mastered the tactics of dividing conservatives among themselves and rallying some against President Bush and the Republican party, this "some" were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress.

WAKE UP.


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1 posted on 01/19/2007 7:21:33 AM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas

Amen!


2 posted on 01/19/2007 7:26:20 AM PST by sasha123
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To: jveritas
Hey jveritas you are really on a mission on this!

But I take you point and wake up calls are needed. I will admit that I have to pour cold water over myself when I've been immersed in the lukewarm MSM.

So yes, I appreciate your call, we've gotta stay focused and informed to persevere.
kind regards indeed.
3 posted on 01/19/2007 7:26:48 AM PST by vimto (Life is not a dry run.)
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To: jveritas
"'this "some' were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress."

Like little babies who if they don't get 110% of what they ask for, they ruin everything for everyone. Heck, if I don't like what my Republican Congressman or Senators are doing, I write them a tell them! That's a lot better than having a liberal Democrat Congressman or Senator. I am not too happy with my Senator John Cornyn and his new bill to open the flood gates to H-1B visas, but I am not going to send him out on his butt. I hammer him on his issues that I do not like. I'd rather hammer a Republican than a moonbat liberal Democrat.

Good post jveritas!

4 posted on 01/19/2007 7:32:13 AM PST by avacado
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To: sasha123

They played social conservatices for fools with the non-scandal Foley folderol--that's for sure.


5 posted on 01/19/2007 7:34:19 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: avacado

Thanks Tom, if we go another election cycle and the knee jerk conservatives grow in numbers, we are going to lose in 2008.


6 posted on 01/19/2007 7:35:11 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
So yes, the liberal treasonous media has been very triumphant in the last 2 years, they mastered the tactics of dividing conservatives among themselves and rallying some against President Bush and the Republican party, this "some" were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress.

The MSM was just picking at a sore that the GOP inflicted on itself. If they hadn't become bloated, big-government, pro-entitlement, corrupt, pro-illegal immigration Democrat-lites, the media would have had no sore to pick at. Throw in a little Foley scandal to make them look like class-A hypocrites and phonies and you've got the makings of an electoral loss. Frankly, we're lucky it wasn't a lot worse.

Lesson: Don't blame the base for the party leaderships' shortcomings. If you don't give people a reason to vote FOR you, but have nothing to offer but "fear itself" that the Democrats will be worse, you're going to lose.

The sooner the bigs at the top of the Stupid Party realize this, the better off we'll all be.
7 posted on 01/19/2007 7:40:28 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: vimto
I am shocked by conservatives who believe instantly everything the liberal media is telling them. Look at the wiretape on terrorist story that emerged in the last 48 hours. The liberal media portrayed that the President capitulated on this program when in reality the program is now more effective than the one before it since the previous program was already compromised when leaked by the New York Times. But here you go from Rush Limbaugh ( Iam really shocked by his reaction) to many other conservatives throwing an "instant fit" over it without when the news was first reported.
8 posted on 01/19/2007 7:40:39 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Antoninus

Here you go. You call the Republican Party the stupid party when in reality they have won 5 of the last 7 presidential elections and won congress for 12 years since 1994.


9 posted on 01/19/2007 7:42:28 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: the Real fifi
They played social conservatices for fools with the non-scandal Foley folderol--that's for sure.

Fools are people who vote against their principles out of fear. As for Foley, someone in the GOP leadership should have known that having a homosexual in your Congressional delegation--let alone one who covertly cruises for chickens--is a ticking time-bomb considering the make-up of the Republican base.

Stupid is as stupid does.
10 posted on 01/19/2007 7:44:36 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: jveritas

Good post. For those who still think that the media is dying...I say that there are still WAY TOO MANY Republicans getting their daily shot in the arm of news from the major news media and they either haven't figured it out...you get lulled to sleep...or they think they are too savvy to be fooled and have already drank the "koolaid".


11 posted on 01/19/2007 7:45:03 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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Here you go. You call the Republican Party the stupid party when in reality they have won 5 of the last 7 presidential elections and won congress for 12 years since 1994.

They won running as conservatives. When they are perceived to have abandoned conservatism, they'll lose. People are not going to abandon their principles for fear that the other might be worse. Don't you get that?

If you want the GOP to be strong again, start calling for them to act like conservatives.
12 posted on 01/19/2007 7:47:05 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: Antoninus

What principles? staying home and help electing left wing communist liberals? Please spare me the lessons of principles.


13 posted on 01/19/2007 7:49:27 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Winning elections is only a beginning. Once elected they must govern. At that they have failed miserably. Republicans were a minority so long that once they got the power they didn't know how to use it effectively. Now they are back into their comfort zone as a minority party.


14 posted on 01/19/2007 7:49:50 AM PST by Russ
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To: jveritas
The liberal media succeeded through lies and distortions and incredible gullibility by many conservatives to divide the conservative base, and drew a wedge between many of them and the President as well between them and the Republican Party.

You're vanity is wrong. Most conservatives do not get their information from the liberal, fifth-column MSM.

What is driving the wedge in the conservative base are the conservatives who adopt and support positions which are anathema to conservatives. For example, when some conservatives start supporting a north east liberal like Rudy Giuliani, the rest of the conservatives try to hold their ground and refuse to support the liberal. This causes a division. Other examples include amnesty for criminal invaders (aka. illegal aliens), expanding Medicare coverage, increasing government spending, intrusions into privacy, failure to protect our borders, etc. The division is caused not by the conservatives who stick to their principles and condemn liberal policies, legislation, and ideas but by the "conservatives" who betray core conservative principles in support of a different agenda but who still insist they're conservatives.

15 posted on 01/19/2007 7:50:35 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Russ

OK, enjoy the new majority of left wing liberal traitors.


16 posted on 01/19/2007 7:53:14 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
So yes, the liberal treasonous media has been very triumphant in the last 2 years, they mastered the tactics of dividing conservatives among themselves and rallying some against President Bush and the Republican party, this "some" were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress.

If you want the votes of the conservatives that you allege "stayed home" this last election, you're not ever going to get them by 1.)calling them stupid and 2.)insisting that they hold their gag reflex and come out to support more and more anti-conservative candidates, policies and legislation.

If you want to win those conservatives back you have to give them what they want. When they see something that they want to support or someone that they want to vote for, then they'll give that support and cast their vote appropriately. All the name calling, bullying, ranting, raving, marginalizing, belittling isn't going to gain a single vote from the core conservatives.

17 posted on 01/19/2007 7:54:34 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: jveritas
Here you go. You call the Republican Party the stupid party when in reality they have won 5 of the last 7 presidential elections and won congress for 12 years since 1994.

And then they screwed things up so much that the voters tossed them out of power. They've got less than 2 years to fix things or they'll lose the White House too.

18 posted on 01/19/2007 7:56:36 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: jveritas

sheesh another 'it's the voters' fault' vanity.

Politicians work for us, they are nothing more than employees. What do you do if you have a lousy employee? You fire them. It is as simple as that.


19 posted on 01/19/2007 8:01:53 AM PST by sheana
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To: Spiff

As I told the other freeper enjoy the new Congress majority of left wing liberal traitors, let us see who will serve your principles more, them or the Republicans.


20 posted on 01/19/2007 8:02:08 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

You're funny....


21 posted on 01/19/2007 8:03:14 AM PST by dakine
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To: sheana
Politicians work for us, they are nothing more than employees. What do you do if you have a lousy employee? You fire them. It is as simple as that.

And who did you replace them with? Left wing liberal traitors. Very wise decision indeed (extreme sarcasm).

22 posted on 01/19/2007 8:04:18 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
OK, enjoy the new majority of left wing liberal traitors.

Maybe the Republican Party needs to admit to their errors, reestablish/reaffirm their core principles, and regain conservative support. Otherwise, it is and will by their fault that we have a new majority of left wing liberal traitors.

I did my part in Republican Party politics over the past 10 years. As a conservative I found that I was fighting a losing battle within the party. The knife wounds in my back from party leadership are still fresh. The foxes run the henhouse. The liberal elitists run the party. Fix that and we have a chance of reuniting the party and winning the majority back. Until then, the divide will only grow wider. You can bandage all you want but until you stop they guys with the knives you'll never stop the bleeding.

23 posted on 01/19/2007 8:04:41 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: jveritas

You have no idea how I voted or whether or not I voted. Quite an assumption there.


24 posted on 01/19/2007 8:05:31 AM PST by sheana
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To: jveritas
As I told the other freeper enjoy the new Congress majority of left wing liberal traitors, let us see who will serve your principles more, them or the Republicans.

Well, history has proven that NEITHER serve conservative principles well at all. And until the Republican Party does, then some people may stay home or vote third party. The Republican Party is NOT entitled to a single vote despite whatever you want to believe.

25 posted on 01/19/2007 8:06:28 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff
Lot of silly poetry but the fact remain that you have helped the left wing liberal traitors win Congress if you did not vote. And you are telling me that if the Republican party does not give you everything you want, it is OK to have the new majority of left wing liberal traitors who will not give anything, but they will take anything that resemble conservatism from the government.
26 posted on 01/19/2007 8:07:21 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: sheana
I was replying to your comment that if you do not like the politicians you fire them, what I am asking you are the new hires, the left wing liberal traitors, better than the Republicans that were fired?
27 posted on 01/19/2007 8:09:53 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Hey I live in California. I figured out a long time ago that my vote doesn't count but I keep going through the motions.


28 posted on 01/19/2007 8:11:30 AM PST by sheana
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To: jveritas

BTTT


29 posted on 01/19/2007 8:13:04 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: jveritas

My wife said of the GOP yesterday, "They call themselves Republicans only because they aren't Democrats." Think about that one.

I'll paraphrase Reagan for my take on this: the Republican party left me - I didn't leave them.

It may actually be better in the long run to have a flaming socialist like Clinton or Obama in office for all to see than to suffer the death of a thousand cuts with RINOs like Giuliani and Romney or traitors like McCain.


30 posted on 01/19/2007 8:13:31 AM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: jveritas

It appears part of what you are saying is that the average conservative can be affected by the media if they do not do their homework. But, it seems that most FR'ers try to stay pretty well informed.


31 posted on 01/19/2007 8:14:25 AM PST by sasha123
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As I told the other freeper enjoy the new Congress majority of left wing liberal traitors, let us see who will serve your principles more, them or the Republicans.

And until you can start supporting the conservative coreinstead of telling them to shut up and vote for whatever steaming pile of liberal crap someone planted an R on and insist that everyone vote for, then it is YOU that must learn to enjoy the majority of left wing liberal traitors.

32 posted on 01/19/2007 8:15:11 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff

It is much better to get 50% of what I want then getting 0% of what I want. By the way this was the Reagan principle, you do not to follow it and you prefer to get 0%.


33 posted on 01/19/2007 8:18:31 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: sasha123
Not only the average conservatives but some FReepers and some famous talk radio show hosts get the knee jerk reactions from time to time and it is now more frequent than ever before.
34 posted on 01/19/2007 8:20:04 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

You are absolutely correct! I applaud your post! If we don't stick together we are lost, which is exactly what the MSM is trying to do. I have had serious arguments with a few freepers, who will remain nameless, about this in the last few days.


35 posted on 01/19/2007 8:20:30 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Noumenon
It may actually be better in the long run to have a flaming socialist like Clinton or Obama in office for all to see than to suffer the death of a thousand cuts with RINOs like Giuliani and Romney or traitors like McCain.

I do not need to argue anymore with you, based on the above statement I rest my case. Good luck and enjoy the left wing liberal traitors.

PS: I do not like McCain a lot but he is not a traitor.

36 posted on 01/19/2007 8:21:53 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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Lot of silly poetry but the fact remain that you have helped the left wing liberal traitors win Congress if you did not vote.

I not only voted straight Republican in the last 10 elections, but I've put in literally thousands of hours and dollars supporting the Party and working for specific conservative Republican candidates. On my desk I've got a photo of me and a conservative Republican candidate shaking hands with former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert taken 1 week before the election. So don't you ever presume to know what I do within the party and how I vote!!

And you are telling me that if the Republican party does not give you everything you want, it is OK to have the new majority of left wing liberal traitors who will not give anything, but they will take anything that resemble conservatism from the government.

And I'm telling you that until the Republican Party stops trying to emulate the Democrat Party and until they stop stabbing conservatives in the back it is THEIR OWN FAULT if we have and keep a new majority of left wing liberal traitors. And maybe that was liberal RINO puke Mehlman's plan all along. The country club elitist, establishment Rockefeller Republicans would rather see a Democrat majority in Congress than to see a conservative Republican majority in Congress. And they're playing you like a violin.

37 posted on 01/19/2007 8:22:06 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: jveritas

Good post.

Dead on...........


38 posted on 01/19/2007 8:24:03 AM PST by Gator113
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To: Spiff

I am glad that you voted Republican and I did not say that you did not vote for Republicans. I said "IF" you did not vote then you have helped the liberals get in power.


39 posted on 01/19/2007 8:26:26 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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PS: I do not like McCain a lot but he is not a traitor.

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts to find even one thread, one post, one paragraph, one sentence or even one lousy word posted to this web site that is not fully protected by the First Amendment!

And I will extend that to one chapter, one group, one poster or any group of posters on this forum. Name one assembly, petition, letter, protest, meeting or rally convened, filed, submitted, attended or supported by members of this forum that is not 100% protected and guaranteed as free speech or free assembly by the First Amendment!

Your McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation is a treasonous act. You and your cohorts are attempting to subvert the Constitution of the United States of America, the very same constitution that you swore an oath to defend, so help you God! That makes you a domestic enemy of that great document and a traitor to your country. Yes, and Benedict Arnold was a war hero before he turned traitor too.

How dare you even think that you are qualified to sit in the oval office! Ronald Reagan's office! President? Hah! You miserable excuse for a two-bit political hack, you're not even qualified to shine Ronald Reagan's boots. If you do run, I'm afraid you're gonna be at least one vote short. It'll be a cold day in hell before a traitor like you ever receives my vote. And that's a campaign promise you can take to the bank.

You can take your fascist campaign finance laws and the jackbooted FEC anti-free-speech enforcers you are empowering and put them where the sun don't shine. And if this post is in violation of your unconstitutional law, shove it too!

Posted on 03/22/2006 8:58:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson

I guess you're going to climb all over Jim Robinson now for 1.)stating that John McCain is a traitor and 2.)for refusing to EVER vote for John McCain which may put a "left wing liberal traitor" (as if McCain isn't one already) in the White House.
40 posted on 01/19/2007 8:27:29 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: jveritas
It is much better to get 50% of what I want then getting 0% of what I want. By the way this was the Reagan principle, you do not to follow it and you prefer to get 0%.

So, how much of what you want are YOU getting by belittling the conservative core and telling them to shut up and vote for someone that they find offensive?

41 posted on 01/19/2007 8:32:08 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff
Well, I disagree with Jim Robinson on this one. As I said I do not like McCain a lot but I do not view him as a traitor. Also I give McCain a lot of credit for standing fast to support the war and support the President new plan. Anyway McCain voted for an amendment yesterday to strip a provision from a new democrat bill where this provision will infringe on the freedom of speech. Fortunately the amendment passed 55 to 43.
42 posted on 01/19/2007 8:33:24 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Spiff

I am not telling them to shut up, how did you come up with this conculsion?


43 posted on 01/19/2007 8:35:24 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

LOL! Sorry, but there's many things to blame on the media. Dividing the Conservative part just ain't one of them. We did that to ourselves, thank you.


44 posted on 01/19/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: jveritas

LOL! Sorry, but there's many things to blame on the media. Dividing the Conservative part just ain't one of them. We did that to ourselves, thank you.


45 posted on 01/19/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: jveritas
I am not telling them to shut up, how did you come up with this conculsion?

So, what are you telling them? Complain loudly all you want about the liberal scum being foisted upon us as Republican candidates, denounce their liberal positions, condemn their corruption, but vote for them anyway on election day?

46 posted on 01/19/2007 8:38:16 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Antoninus
You make some valid points. However, instead of dwelling on the short comings of the Republican party you should also remember some of the positive things it has accomplished.

(1)They are the only party doing anything to support the troops and the war on terrorism.

(2)They are the party that has been instrumental in appointing and seating hundreds of conservative judges, including four fine justices to the appellate court and two excellent judges to the Supreme Court. This alone will mitigate many future disasters produced by a socialist/liberal Democratic Party agenda.

(3)They have lowered our taxes.

(4)They have implemented tort reform. Etc.

Now, we have a Democratic Party that has assumed control of the legislative branch and what can we expect:

(1)Huge tax increases on the energy sector, personal wealth and businesses in general.

(2)The introduction of the fairness doctrine that will attempt to restrict our freedom of speech and make forums like this one obsolete.

(3)More socialized medicine.

(4)More campaign finance laws.

(5)Retreat on the War on Terror.

(6)Repeal of tort reform and an explosion of lawsuits against businesses and individuals.

(7)Unending abuse of the subpoena power of House and Senate investigating committees on the executive branch.

These are real concerns and Nancy Pelosie and Harry Reid have already revealed their intentions. These are not idle threats. Republicans were right to be concerned about these possibilities. Republicans were not using phony scare tactics to encourage conservatives to vote Republican. They were telling the truth. And the truth is very ugly right now.
47 posted on 01/19/2007 8:44:12 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: jveritas

Nov 7 was one of the greatest victories for the Party of Treason the Treason Media has ever produced. Many of us were warning of what the Illegal Immigrant Hysteria could do to the conservative goals most of us share. But, rather than taking these warnings to heart, the Hysterical just heaped abuse upon the warners and continued to rant and rave about the President and the GOP.

Now, after driving the Independents into the arms of the Party of Treason, they still have not learned their lessons and continue their attacks on any candidate with a chance to win the White House in 08. Rather than support such a candidate inevitably they support those with ZERO chance of winning.

Instead of recognizing that many of the brightest hopes of conservatives have been driven out of Congress they suggest taking the party even further to the Right thus ensuring certain defeat in a nation which is NOT that far right.


48 posted on 01/19/2007 8:45:28 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Spiff
What I am saying that we are always better off with Republicans than left wing liberal traitors.

By the way Spiff, I read your last 50 posts and they are all attacks against President Bush and the Republican Party, and not a single post was against the left wing liberal traitors. In some of your posts you are even against opening the mail of someone who is suspected to be a terrorist! And you call yourself a conservative! Give me a break.

49 posted on 01/19/2007 8:48:37 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Excellent post.


50 posted on 01/19/2007 8:49:57 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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