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1 posted on 01/19/2007 7:21:33 AM PST by jveritas
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Amen!


2 posted on 01/19/2007 7:26:20 AM PST by sasha123
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Hey jveritas you are really on a mission on this!

But I take you point and wake up calls are needed. I will admit that I have to pour cold water over myself when I've been immersed in the lukewarm MSM.

So yes, I appreciate your call, we've gotta stay focused and informed to persevere.
kind regards indeed.
3 posted on 01/19/2007 7:26:48 AM PST by vimto (Life is not a dry run.)
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"'this "some' were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress."

Like little babies who if they don't get 110% of what they ask for, they ruin everything for everyone. Heck, if I don't like what my Republican Congressman or Senators are doing, I write them a tell them! That's a lot better than having a liberal Democrat Congressman or Senator. I am not too happy with my Senator John Cornyn and his new bill to open the flood gates to H-1B visas, but I am not going to send him out on his butt. I hammer him on his issues that I do not like. I'd rather hammer a Republican than a moonbat liberal Democrat.

Good post jveritas!

4 posted on 01/19/2007 7:32:13 AM PST by avacado
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So yes, the liberal treasonous media has been very triumphant in the last 2 years, they mastered the tactics of dividing conservatives among themselves and rallying some against President Bush and the Republican party, this "some" were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress.

The MSM was just picking at a sore that the GOP inflicted on itself. If they hadn't become bloated, big-government, pro-entitlement, corrupt, pro-illegal immigration Democrat-lites, the media would have had no sore to pick at. Throw in a little Foley scandal to make them look like class-A hypocrites and phonies and you've got the makings of an electoral loss. Frankly, we're lucky it wasn't a lot worse.

Lesson: Don't blame the base for the party leaderships' shortcomings. If you don't give people a reason to vote FOR you, but have nothing to offer but "fear itself" that the Democrats will be worse, you're going to lose.

The sooner the bigs at the top of the Stupid Party realize this, the better off we'll all be.
7 posted on 01/19/2007 7:40:28 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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Good post. For those who still think that the media is dying...I say that there are still WAY TOO MANY Republicans getting their daily shot in the arm of news from the major news media and they either haven't figured it out...you get lulled to sleep...or they think they are too savvy to be fooled and have already drank the "koolaid".


11 posted on 01/19/2007 7:45:03 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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The liberal media succeeded through lies and distortions and incredible gullibility by many conservatives to divide the conservative base, and drew a wedge between many of them and the President as well between them and the Republican Party.

You're vanity is wrong. Most conservatives do not get their information from the liberal, fifth-column MSM.

What is driving the wedge in the conservative base are the conservatives who adopt and support positions which are anathema to conservatives. For example, when some conservatives start supporting a north east liberal like Rudy Giuliani, the rest of the conservatives try to hold their ground and refuse to support the liberal. This causes a division. Other examples include amnesty for criminal invaders (aka. illegal aliens), expanding Medicare coverage, increasing government spending, intrusions into privacy, failure to protect our borders, etc. The division is caused not by the conservatives who stick to their principles and condemn liberal policies, legislation, and ideas but by the "conservatives" who betray core conservative principles in support of a different agenda but who still insist they're conservatives.

15 posted on 01/19/2007 7:50:35 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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So yes, the liberal treasonous media has been very triumphant in the last 2 years, they mastered the tactics of dividing conservatives among themselves and rallying some against President Bush and the Republican party, this "some" were stupid enough to stay home in the last elections and caused the Republicans to lose Congress.

If you want the votes of the conservatives that you allege "stayed home" this last election, you're not ever going to get them by 1.)calling them stupid and 2.)insisting that they hold their gag reflex and come out to support more and more anti-conservative candidates, policies and legislation.

If you want to win those conservatives back you have to give them what they want. When they see something that they want to support or someone that they want to vote for, then they'll give that support and cast their vote appropriately. All the name calling, bullying, ranting, raving, marginalizing, belittling isn't going to gain a single vote from the core conservatives.

17 posted on 01/19/2007 7:54:34 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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sheesh another 'it's the voters' fault' vanity.

Politicians work for us, they are nothing more than employees. What do you do if you have a lousy employee? You fire them. It is as simple as that.


19 posted on 01/19/2007 8:01:53 AM PST by sheana
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You're funny....


21 posted on 01/19/2007 8:03:14 AM PST by dakine
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BTTT


29 posted on 01/19/2007 8:13:04 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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It appears part of what you are saying is that the average conservative can be affected by the media if they do not do their homework. But, it seems that most FR'ers try to stay pretty well informed.


31 posted on 01/19/2007 8:14:25 AM PST by sasha123
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You are absolutely correct! I applaud your post! If we don't stick together we are lost, which is exactly what the MSM is trying to do. I have had serious arguments with a few freepers, who will remain nameless, about this in the last few days.


35 posted on 01/19/2007 8:20:30 AM PST by Ditter
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Good post.

Dead on...........


38 posted on 01/19/2007 8:24:03 AM PST by Gator113
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LOL! Sorry, but there's many things to blame on the media. Dividing the Conservative part just ain't one of them. We did that to ourselves, thank you.


44 posted on 01/19/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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LOL! Sorry, but there's many things to blame on the media. Dividing the Conservative part just ain't one of them. We did that to ourselves, thank you.


45 posted on 01/19/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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Nov 7 was one of the greatest victories for the Party of Treason the Treason Media has ever produced. Many of us were warning of what the Illegal Immigrant Hysteria could do to the conservative goals most of us share. But, rather than taking these warnings to heart, the Hysterical just heaped abuse upon the warners and continued to rant and rave about the President and the GOP.

Now, after driving the Independents into the arms of the Party of Treason, they still have not learned their lessons and continue their attacks on any candidate with a chance to win the White House in 08. Rather than support such a candidate inevitably they support those with ZERO chance of winning.

Instead of recognizing that many of the brightest hopes of conservatives have been driven out of Congress they suggest taking the party even further to the Right thus ensuring certain defeat in a nation which is NOT that far right.


48 posted on 01/19/2007 8:45:28 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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