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O2Diesel to Acquire Ethanol Producer Building 100 Million Gallon Plant
www.greencarcongress.com ^ | 01/18/2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/19/2007 7:28:38 AM PST by Red Badger

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Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.......

If you want on or off the DIESEL "KnOcK" LIST just FReepmail me........

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days......

1 posted on 01/19/2007 7:28:39 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: sully777; Fierce Allegiance; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ...

KnOcK!.....


2 posted on 01/19/2007 7:29:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Red Badger

If we don't have enough corn for food, how are we now suppose to split this limited, non renewing resource between petro and food?


3 posted on 01/19/2007 7:32:19 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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Corn (as well as other seed plants) waste, stalks, cobs etc. can be used for both ethanol and biodiesel production......


4 posted on 01/19/2007 7:34:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Red Badger

Ethanol from corn...the biggest boondoggle going.
The entire process actually cost more in energy than you get from the end result.


5 posted on 01/19/2007 7:59:13 AM PST by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: Red Badger

Did you see the spot on Fox where the low income Hispanics are complaining that the cost of corn is too high to make low priced tortillas!!!!!!


6 posted on 01/19/2007 8:01:13 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Red Badger
Is this blended diesel fuel compatible with the BlueTech and other emissions systems designed for ultra low sulfer diesel?

Its starting to look like diesel may be in my future - again!

7 posted on 01/19/2007 8:01:42 AM PST by Don Carlos (Posting tasteless comments since 02/03/2002)
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To: Battle Axe

Holy frijoles!.......


8 posted on 01/19/2007 8:02:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Don Carlos

COmpatible? I don't see why not..........


9 posted on 01/19/2007 8:03:57 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: edcoil
If we don't have enough corn for food, how are we now suppose to split this limited, non renewing resource between petro and food?

A system to deal with that problem was set up some centuries ago.

It's called capitalism.

10 posted on 01/19/2007 8:11:43 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Red Badger
Diesel exhaust is going to start to smell like burnt corn chips.

BTW, how does this ethanol/diesel blend work? Is it ok for normal diesel engines or does it require modification? Anyone have a URL to a page that goes into some detail?
11 posted on 01/19/2007 8:13:06 AM PST by taxcontrol
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http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html#problem


12 posted on 01/19/2007 8:16:08 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Then why does the government need to tax and mandate ethanol?

If people wanted it, capitalism would provide it.
13 posted on 01/19/2007 8:23:22 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
non renewing resource

LOL

14 posted on 01/19/2007 8:27:37 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: edcoil

Exactly, and that's how it should happen, without the 'friendly' government.

My earlier post to you was tongue in cheek.

The only government influence should be in the form of tax breaks or credits.


15 posted on 01/19/2007 8:28:58 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: taxcontrol
Is it ok for normal diesel engines

Corn for diesel is mostly bunk, diesel made out of rapeseed is about 100 times less costly.

16 posted on 01/19/2007 8:30:50 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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After 200 years of grain surpluses there are still some who say we don't have enough corn foir food. It will be very interesting to see how much corn farmers plant this year. They are known for shooting themselves in the foot by overproducing.


17 posted on 01/19/2007 8:54:47 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: org.whodat

Isn't soybean oil the most produced oil in the US? Is the bulk rate of soybean oil lower than that of diesel? How does rapeseed oil compare cost wise in bulk.

Sorry for the long list of questions... just trying to be informed.


18 posted on 01/19/2007 9:06:37 AM PST by taxcontrol
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Isn't soybean oil the most produced oil in the US? Is the bulk rate of soybean oil lower than that of diesel? How does rapeseed oil compare cost wise in bulk.

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My understanding is that you are correct but that will change, and soon. There are many crops that will produce more oil than soybeans including hemp and sunflower. Eventually we will see successful extraction of high grade vegetable oil from algae. I suspect that the useless desert southwest will turn in to a huge source of "Diesel Oil".
19 posted on 01/19/2007 9:31:19 AM PST by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: taxcontrol
Rapeseed oil=Canola oil, lots of it is produced, it is cheaper to grow per acre, and produces more per acre than corn or soybean, the left over and by product is good animal feed. Most farmers that were growing tobacco have not been growing anything but hay for animal feed. Production of rapeseed and are corn or soybean could double and or triple if the farmers think there is a demand. A lot of cotton fields in the south will be growing corn and rapeseed and soybean this year as an alternative to cotton. To make corn into ethanol requires ton's and ton's of sugar and is not cost effective.

However, a professor at Virginia Teck has come up with a new way, he plans , to convert sugar to hydrogen if it works, the energy crises is solved.

20 posted on 01/19/2007 10:47:32 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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