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A Very Political Climate (Weather Channel climate expert responds to blog fervor)
The Weather Channel ^ | 01/19/2007 | Heidi Cullen

Posted on 01/19/2007 7:49:54 AM PST by cogitator

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To: cogitator

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. - H. L. Mencken


41 posted on 01/19/2007 8:27:29 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Old Professer
I was watching during Hurricane Allison in Houston in 2001. Their reports were 4 hours out of date MINIMUM. The bad weather alert was for like the next 30 minutes.

NONE of that will keep a viewer out of harm's way.


42 posted on 01/19/2007 8:28:27 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: weegee
The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.

You know what happened when ABC ran "The Day After" and a majority of american TV viewers watched their fellow citizens being incinerated by nuclear war? Reagan's approval rating went up.

43 posted on 01/19/2007 8:31:12 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

The left makes this claim about the War on Terror while at the same time whipping the voters (and school children) into a frenzy over man made global warming.

Political correctness does not like to debate or be questioned. People smarter than us know that socialism (Communism) is the answer.

Just ask Jane Fonda (who's telling us that the media doesn't let the right viewpoints get through):

"If you understood what communism was", she said, "you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist".


44 posted on 01/19/2007 8:31:43 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: HoosierHawk
Great comments below her blog entry

She is just getting hammered! I'm lovin' it.

45 posted on 01/19/2007 8:34:13 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: The Great RJ

"No one expects the Ecological Inquisition!"


46 posted on 01/19/2007 8:36:30 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: bcsco
Note that hurricanes DO rotate clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. That's just a real dumb statement from someone with a doctorate in meteorology, or climatology, or whatever.

Hurricanes by definition occur only in the northern hemisphere and therefore, they only spin counterclockwise. A cyclone, in contrast, spins clockwise.

47 posted on 01/19/2007 8:37:03 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: DBrow
"Meteorologists are among the few people trained in the sciences who are permitted regular access to our living rooms. And in that sense, they owe it to their audience to distinguish between solid, peer-reviewed science and junk political controversy. If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval. Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on cyclical weather patterns. It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather. It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement."

But of course! Scientists are completely unbiased, impartial people with absolutely no ideological agendas or axes to grind whatsoever. In fact, they are the only human beings in existence who see Absolute Truth. How dare anyone question them? (Especially if they don't question what they say about other things!)

48 posted on 01/19/2007 8:37:06 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ("Shallach 'et-`ammi, veya`avduni!!!")
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To: Mr. Silverback

There were a lot fewer commmercials after the bomb went off on The Day After. Other than that, I don't recall much of that made for tv film. There were other nuclear scare films in the 1980s (When The Wind Blows, Wargames, and Miracle Mile among them as well as the Atomic Cafe documentary).

There were a number of them in the 1950s/1960s too (This Is Not A Test, Panic In Year Zero, Five, Dr. Strangelove).

The Russians almost did launch a mutually assured destruction attack in the 1980s (triggered by a faulty reading). The guy who refused to push the button was reprimanded and the story didn't come to light for over a decade.

Somehow, the liberal anti-nuke crowd never pointed a finger of blame at the Soviet Union. Instead we were told how "bad" Reagan was for America ('how dare he joke "the bombing begins in 5 minutes"?'). While there were Soviet threat movies made in the 1980s, we are told today that the Rambo mentality was wrong too.


49 posted on 01/19/2007 8:37:44 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: cogitator

I replied to her:-
"Assessing the Impact of Urban Sprawl on Soil Resources in the United States Using Nighttime "City Lights" Satellite Images and Digital Soils Maps" USGS and NASA

Abstract." Nighttime satellite images of the Earth showing city lights were merged with census data and a digital soils map in an effort to estimate the extent of developed land in the United States and the impact of development on soil resources.

The urban areas defined by "city lights" had mean population densities of 1,033 persons/km2 and 427 housing units/km2 (4.13 persons and 1.7 households/acre). Urban areas accounted for 2.7% of the surface area in the United States, an area approximately equal to the state of Minnesota or one-half the size of California."

Mankind has urbanized less than 3% of the total US You believe that not only have we changed the climate in the other 97% but also in the arctic,antarctic,Africa and the oceans.My what busy bees we have been to achieve all this with ac units, hair spray cans and car exhausts in one climatic period of 30 yrs!

Further reading at:-

http://biology.usgs.gov/luhna/chap3.html


50 posted on 01/19/2007 8:38:22 AM PST by managusta (Light travels faster then sound !This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I want a scientist to tell me when LIFE begins. Then we can take this evidence to the legislature to prohibit abortion of children who reach that threshhold ("alive").


51 posted on 01/19/2007 8:38:55 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: cogitator

WHY is global warming a bad thing?

We have been given an enormous blessing, in that the planet is growing warmer, at least on the short term. We shall now have to spend LESS for the purpose of heating our homes to sustain comfortable temperatures, as the warmer (and more humid) air outside will tend to hold heat overnight, until once more the benefit of sunshine shall make the stones and earth warm up again.

Travel shall be simpler from London to Tokyo, as shipping shall be able to traverse the fabled Northwest Passage sought for so long by explorers in the past. Bananas in Labrador, and rubber trees in Arkansas would tend to reduce the number of those items that now are imported to those regions. The potential for drowning coastlines is somewhat overdrawn, as every bit of glacial ice on mountaintops and in polar regions could melt, and overall, ocean levels will rise only about a foot. The ocean surface on this planet is HUGE, some 70% of the total surface of the planet, and it would take much more ice overlying land to cause a rise of anything like the ~20 feet some of the more 'zealous' pseudo-scientists are claiming. When the height of the last Ice Age had advanced to its greatest extent, glaciation covered virtually all of Europe, most of Asia, and much of North America to a line that covered practically all of the northern tier of states in what is now the US. From the south, since it is mostly open ocean, the south polar ice cap probably spread north to New Zealand and the Falkland Islands, with some glaciation of what is now South Africa, and a good deal of South America. A relatively warm belt, between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn, had weather about like that of, say, Georgia, on a year-round basis, with some hot humid days when the sun was directly overhead, and in alternate seasons, probably snow that melted within a day or two. Coastlines, where they appeared and were not covered with permanent ice, were much further out than they are today.

Mention was made in the newspapers, that Miami had snow on this date - just 30 years ago. No talk of global warming then.

These people have had a firecracker go off beneath their own butts, and thought the world was blowing up.

So the world gets warmer. Embrace the change. Because for darned sure, nobody, with the technology we have today or perhaps for at least another century or so, is going to be able to alter the probable course of that change. No matter how much money we may spend.

And if your seaside property is going to get drowned, then move further inland. The ocean will then come to you.

When it is good and ready to.


52 posted on 01/19/2007 8:42:08 AM PST by alloysteel (Just going to church doesn't make you a Christian,like standing in a garage doesn't make you a car.)
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To: HoosierHawk

I liked the comment on her original "silence the infidels" post where a meteorologist asks her if she can tell him the temp difference between 132,000 years ago and 132,150 years ago.


53 posted on 01/19/2007 8:43:39 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
How to handle the Global Warming debate with a lib

Do it right and it's a no lose situation.

54 posted on 01/19/2007 8:44:37 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: Labyrinthos
Hurricanes by definition occur only in the northern hemisphere and therefore, they only spin counterclockwise. A cyclone, in contrast, spins clockwise.

Look, folks; I know!!! Okay? But as I posted, tropical-cyclones, which are what both hurricanes and typhoons are, DO rotate clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere.

My point is, that for this doctor in meteorology or climatology, or whatever to use a simplistic grammatical point to call for the decertification of meteorologists who disagree is beneath someone who poses as someone interested opening a dialog.

55 posted on 01/19/2007 8:46:54 AM PST by bcsco
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To: cogitator

"And I'm a skeptic."

Um, no you're not! In fact, you would prefer to silence skeptics with fascist techniques.


56 posted on 01/19/2007 8:47:03 AM PST by CSM (We're not losing our country, some are just throwing it away. - Sherri-D)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

"Blogal Warming?"

LOL. Why I LOVE FReepers !


57 posted on 01/19/2007 8:49:13 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: TC Rider
For that matter, let me know when your 2 week forecasts are more than 75% accurate.

While I am certainly not a person who believes that the warming trend is caused by man's use of carbon fuels, I do have to say that weather.com's 10 day forecast has been 100% correct for my area for the past couple of months now.

58 posted on 01/19/2007 8:49:53 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: cogitator

Sounds like backpedaling.

Notice she didn't address her comment that "global warming skeptics" be banned from AMS certification.


59 posted on 01/19/2007 8:50:24 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: weegee

"scientists have learned something very important about our planet. It's warming up -- glaciers are melting, sea level is rising and the weather is changing. The primary explanation for this warming is the carbon dioxide released from -- among other things -- the burning of fossil fuels. "

If she can show the daily temperature readings for the last 10 million years, we can then determine if this is a cyclical event or how much variation from the mean has occured. I would prefer an EXCEL spreadsheet.


60 posted on 01/19/2007 8:51:00 AM PST by art_rocks
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