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Giant Squid Hitches Free Ride to the Marquesas
Cruising World ^ | 09 Jan 2007 | Michael Lovett

Posted on 01/19/2007 9:08:42 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman

In the summer of 2004, Beth and Ken Cone boarded their Sundeer 60 Eagles Wings in their home port of Waukegan, Illinois, sailed across the Great Lakes and out the St. Lawrence Seaway, and have been cruising the world ever since.

The latest post on their website, Vancones.org, concerns an episode of underbody sabotage attributed to one of the most mysterious creatures of the deep, the giant squid. While visiting Papeete, Tahiti, the Cones met up with their old cruising pal, Shigeo Kitano, whose progress on a recent passage from the Galopagos to the Marquesas had been impeded by an unknown hindrance somewhere below the waterline of his sloop, Akitsushima II.

Investigating the findings of another cruiser, who hypothesized that Akitsushima II had been latched onto by a giant squid, the Cones donned scuba gear and inspected the underbody, where they found "hundreds of strange circular marks on the keel, rudder and hull, where the soft bottom paint had been rubbed away…the marks looked like suction cup marks. But not just any suction cups. Double cups within cups. Like the ones on a squid. A really, really big squid."

The Cones went on to compile the following list of pros and cons supporting the giant squid theory:

"Cons

* Giant squid definitely exist but are almost never seen alive. Only last year year did researchers finally get some pictures of a live one. And that was from a submarine 2950 feet below the surface. * There have been just a handful of reports of squid attacks on boats in the last 200 years. * Shigeo didn't report feeling the violent motion, or shaking, which accompanied the other reported attacks. * Giant squid suction cups are usually about 5 cm. Some of these seem bigger. Some of the edges are blurred, suggesting the cups moved around in the same general spot, enlarging the "footprint". But even some of the sharper outlines are bigger than 5 cm. * This squid would have to have stayed with the boat for weeks and weeks. The other reported attacks lasted for minutes.

Pros

* We can't think of any ocean junk that would leave this kind of pattern. Barnacles and seaweed don't leave these marks. We've never seen fishing floats that would do this. We can't think of any other natural phenomenon that would make such marks. On the other hand, they look just like those squid suckers. * Shigeo's keel and rudder are pretty streamlined. There's nothing much that would catch and hold a fishing net or other garbage, unless it tangled in the prop. But there was nothing in the prop. * A squid on the rudder would certainly explain why the boat was hard to steer. And why the autopilot reported "weather helm." And a squid could explain why some of Shigeo's water intakes stopped working intermittently. * Shigeo was sailing through a very fertile piece of ocean, known for its population of sperm whales. Sperm whales eat giant squid. And often have scars from the suckers."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boating; calamari; crypto; cryptozoology; giantsquid; kraken; sailing; squid
Interesting Story, dunno if it's from a Giant Squid or not.

More detail: Also, has photos of the marks left on the ship.

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http://www.vancones.org/LatestUpdate.html

1 posted on 01/19/2007 9:08:45 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: pcottraux

Interesting Story, possible Giant Squid.
Crypto ping


2 posted on 01/19/2007 9:09:37 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman (The Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt the man doing it!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

A - kit - sushi - ma II. There was the solution to the problem......


3 posted on 01/19/2007 9:10:44 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Squid seem to be very intelligent, like octopi. It was probably tired and needed a rest. So hitch a ride via suction cups..........


4 posted on 01/19/2007 9:12:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

bump


5 posted on 01/19/2007 9:13:07 AM PST by F-117A (Who is Jamil Hussein?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I don't understand why Kitano didn't just look himself, when it was happening?


6 posted on 01/19/2007 9:14:12 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I hate it when I am beseiged by giant squid


7 posted on 01/19/2007 9:14:48 AM PST by Squidpup (Fight the Good Fight)
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To: FLOutdoorsman; cogitator
I like the way the writer(s) presented both pro and con sides of their theory.

Very refreshing.

On the "pro" side, I'd point out that over the years, that most - if not all! - of the mythological "kraken" sitings and attacks would resemble a giant squid attack: multi-tentacled, hooked beaks and eyes, suckers, large creature, shaking or violent and sudden boat movement.
8 posted on 01/19/2007 9:16:52 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

The squid probably mistook the ship to be a sea lollipop.


9 posted on 01/19/2007 9:18:06 AM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: stuartcr
Welllllll, think about it.

You are by yourself, and have boat control and rudder problems -> good reason to go diving over the side - IF you're at anchor and are in calm waters and are scuba qualified. But if you get to very shallow calm clear waters, the squid drops off: it doesn't to drag on the bottom in an area were there are no predators and no food.

Open ocean? NEVER go over the side of the boat.

Worse, if you are by yourself in open ocean and suspect a very large predator is sucking up on the bottom of your boat, but is sinking your boat, would YOU go over the side in open water to pry him loose?
10 posted on 01/19/2007 9:21:09 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Red Badger
Squid seem to be very intelligent, like octopi. It was probably tired and needed a rest. So hitch a ride via suction cups..........

Going back to a part of the article:

Shigeo was sailing through a very fertile piece of ocean, known for its population of sperm whales. Sperm whales eat giant squid. And often have scars from the suckers.

Think of it as a Crip needing to get across Blood gang territory and hitching a ride by hiding under a passing mobile home till he got to somewhere safe.

Smart squid.

The other alternative is to think of it as a ninja squid, using this boat to sneak into hostile territory undetected...

Now there's an image!  I wonder if the squid had a suicide vest strapped to his body?

11 posted on 01/19/2007 9:21:38 AM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

John Kerry once had a giant squid attack his patrol boat. No, really, he said the incident was seared- seared- into his memory.....


12 posted on 01/19/2007 9:24:22 AM PST by Panzerfaust
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Just Her Ankleship out on the Hillarbeast's "Get the Early Bird Jump on the Yacht Crowd's Votes"
13 posted on 01/19/2007 9:24:50 AM PST by Bender2 ("Get a rope" does still have meaning here in Texas!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Papeete, Marquesas, waterline? I feel a song coming on.


14 posted on 01/19/2007 9:26:19 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Phsstpok
Kamikaze Squid!!!

Banzai!!!

15 posted on 01/19/2007 9:28:37 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I see storms on the horizon.)
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To: Phsstpok

Actually, I would not be shocked to learn that this squid was in the midst of being attacked by a whale or two and [as is their defense] latched onto the passing boat mistaking it for a whale.


16 posted on 01/19/2007 9:44:41 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: FLOutdoorsman
These are the only pictures ever taken of a giant squid...that I know of...


17 posted on 01/19/2007 9:50:29 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: FLOutdoorsman

maybe the old mapmakers were right when they wrote:

Monsters be heere.


18 posted on 01/19/2007 9:52:59 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Panzerfaust

John Kerry once had a giant squid attack his patrol boat. No, really, he said the incident was seared- seared- into his memory.....

Cambodia, Christmas it was...........


19 posted on 01/19/2007 10:02:50 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Wow! Do I get to be the first to do this?

"All your squid are belong to us!"


20 posted on 01/19/2007 10:05:41 AM PST by G-Bear (Religiously, five times a day, I turn my back on Mecca and fart!)
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To: VaBthang4

Wow.


21 posted on 01/19/2007 10:14:07 AM PST by Seņor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I guess he just couldn't handle living in Bikini Bottom anymore, next to Spongebob.

22 posted on 01/19/2007 10:15:50 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

He'd probably like to move so far away that he can brag about it. He'd probably rather tear out his brain stem, go out to the nearest four-way intersection and jump rope with it than go on living where he does now.


23 posted on 01/19/2007 10:17:59 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: VaBthang4






The giant squid has the largest eye in the natural world. Although squid's eyes evolved on a separate branch of the tangle bank of life, they are remarkably like ours, except that they don't have the blind spot that human eyes have. This picture is from a book 'Extreme Nature' by Mark Carwardine. This immature female is 17 foot long, but they go up to 49 foot apparently.

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24 posted on 01/19/2007 10:24:43 AM PST by OESY
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To: FLOutdoorsman
A clue?
25 posted on 01/19/2007 12:23:04 PM PST by F-117A (Who is Jamil Hussein?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman; Angelas; presidio9; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; ...

26 posted on 01/19/2007 12:49:13 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Remora, perhaps?


27 posted on 01/19/2007 12:56:38 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: OESY

If that picture is real it is just incredible to me. That is just unbelievable. I'm astonished!


28 posted on 01/19/2007 3:18:07 PM PST by A knight without armor
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To: OESY

That is just creepy. Creepy, creepy, creepy.


29 posted on 01/19/2007 3:22:16 PM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: VaBthang4
Actually, I would not be shocked to learn that this squid was in the midst of being attacked by a whale or two and [as is their defense] latched onto the passing boat mistaking it for a whale.

Your post conjured up a whole sequence for me. 

The squid is being attacked, maybe fleeing from one or more whales, as you suggest, when something looms up in front of it. 

It can't dodge and decides to fight back so it reaches out and embraces it's tormentor in a death grip and thinks (the squid equivalent of) "all right, you bastard, you may kill me but I'm taking you with me." 

But the opponent doesn't fight back.  It just continues to travel on, away from the pursuers. 

"Fine, you want to play it that way!  See if I care.  I'm not letting go.  You're doomed, whale boy!" it thinks, then leans against the hull of this ship and sighs, waiting for death. 

Many hours (or days) later the squid realizes that the thing it's grappled with isn't trying to kill it and and has taken it out of range of the pursuers.  With difficulty the suckers are loosened and it falls away, exhausted, but alive. 

The last thing it thinks before moving away quietly is "Just Damn!  That was lucky.  I wonder what the hell that thing was?  Big dumb fish if I ever saw one.  Next time I'll have to see if it tastes good."

30 posted on 01/19/2007 3:53:11 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Phsstpok
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31 posted on 01/19/2007 3:53:48 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Phsstpok; mware
I find it interesting that all three of us clicked on this thread. We must be getting tired of the ugliness on the forum, and figured no one would be ranting on this one!

LOL! At least, that was MY reason!

32 posted on 01/19/2007 4:14:02 PM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: OESY

"Clear eyes. Wow..."

33 posted on 01/19/2007 4:21:28 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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To: Miss Marple
LOL, I hear you, people are a little testy tonight aren't they.

I have taken to watching old episodes of The Rifleman tonight.

Hey check out this squid.

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34 posted on 01/19/2007 4:32:23 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware
HA!

I have on ALton Brown cooking duck. I won't even eat duck, but it's better than watching the news shows.

I think I will switch to EWTN.

35 posted on 01/19/2007 4:34:47 PM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: mware
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The beak of one of the colossus squid.

36 posted on 01/19/2007 4:35:00 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Miss Marple

Raymond Arroyo will be on at 8. He often has interesting interviews. With the march for life coming up this weekend it should be interesting.


37 posted on 01/19/2007 4:36:20 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Geeze... That link!

I just spent 4 hours reading the entire site!


38 posted on 01/19/2007 4:47:02 PM PST by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: SevenofNine
Popeye's giant squid smackdown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh1EXxxYgGM

39 posted on 01/19/2007 4:47:47 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Miss Marple

pro life World Over, pings.


40 posted on 01/19/2007 5:01:35 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

If you are an open ocean singles sailor, you darn sure should be prepared to da anything to take care of your vessel, including tying yourself off, and going over the side.


41 posted on 01/19/2007 5:33:44 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

This sounds like a good strategy for winning the America's cup. Train some giant squids to attach themselves to the boats you fear the most. I guess I should try this idea at crackpot.org...


42 posted on 01/19/2007 9:22:43 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: Fred Nerks; Berosus; blam; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA

Uh, tentacles or not, I'm pretty sure they don't have thumbs...


43 posted on 01/19/2007 10:23:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: pcottraux

Squid pro quo.


44 posted on 01/20/2007 12:12:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; All

I agree with Robert (that's a new one, eh?).

semi-related sidebar:

Kinky Sex Among The Invertebrates
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf117/sf117p06.htm


45 posted on 01/20/2007 12:16:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: stuartcr
And run the risk of a scene like this happening?


46 posted on 01/20/2007 5:11:51 AM PST by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: stuartcr

That would certainly count as an excellent sea story.


47 posted on 01/20/2007 6:59:30 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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