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California Focus: Optimism as an accounting tool (state could brink on bankruptcy in 18 months)
OC Register ^ | 1/19/07 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 01/19/2007 11:46:43 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Carry_Okie

.....or sabotaged in the final hour.


41 posted on 01/19/2007 11:23:24 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah (The N.O. Mass is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


42 posted on 01/20/2007 3:00:34 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: streetpreacher

Technically, states cannot declare bankruptcy. It didn't stop Orange county back in the 80's however.


43 posted on 01/20/2007 3:33:39 AM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: NormsRevenge
Tom's our resident "voice in the wilderness". Too bad folks didn't or wouldn't get the message.

I did--that's why I left.
44 posted on 01/20/2007 3:36:02 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: streetpreacher
Seriously, what does happen when a state goes bankrupt? How would California's bankruptcy effect the national economy?

You're kidding, right?

California is the WORLD'S 5th largest economy.

45 posted on 01/20/2007 9:22:42 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: ChurtleDawg

That was my point - they are to themselves so trying to tax them to fund Arnold's folly will be difficult but, try being a white guy and start a casino, the state will say no.


46 posted on 01/20/2007 9:39:56 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Peach

It's actually the 8th according to the latest figures. ;-)


47 posted on 01/20/2007 1:55:00 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: calcowgirl

Not optimism, but insanity, and hubris.

What is property in a bankrupt state worth?


48 posted on 01/20/2007 2:36:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: NormsRevenge
"That's why thousands of more machines have been and will be allowed by and approved for tribes across the state in their casinos."

That won't help without a population increase of, say 10 million?

49 posted on 01/20/2007 2:39:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: NormsRevenge

Schwartzie likes illegal aliens more than American Citizens. Face it.


50 posted on 01/20/2007 2:40:40 PM PST by BobS
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To: streetpreacher

In 2002, the last time I looked, it was 5th.
http://www.lao.ca.gov/2002/cal_facts/econ.html

And since you asked how our national economy would be affected if California went bankrupt, I thought maybe you could better understand given how large California's economy is in relation to other counties.


51 posted on 01/20/2007 3:14:10 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks!


52 posted on 01/20/2007 4:24:01 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: calcowgirl
Tom is absolutely right, of course. But that won't stop the Austrian's FR cheering section from attempting to spin every single minus into a plus.

Watch them all disappear from these threads when the bill comes due from all of the Austrian's socialist initiatives.

53 posted on 01/21/2007 2:23:14 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl
The tribes hooked up with organized crime quite some time ago . . .

Do you have any links to stories documenting this ?

54 posted on 01/22/2007 1:12:10 PM PST by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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Do you have any links to stories documenting this ?

There are thousands of articles I have read over the years. The first case I remember reading about was about 15 years ago in San Diego. One of the primary players (Chris Petti) died recently and it is mentioned in the coverage of his death:

As the Chicago mob's reputed boss in Southern California, Chris George Petti [aka George Poulos]...

Mr. Petti, a resident of Chula Vista, Calif., died Dec. 31, according to a death notice in the San Diego Union-Tribune. He was 78.

The FBI, meanwhile, knew the Cicero native as a close friend and protege of the late Anthony Spilotro, who oversaw the Las Vegas empire of the Chicago mob...

Mr. Petti's extensive criminal record included convictions on assaults, thefts, bookmaking and money laundering.

Most notably, he was convicted in 1993 for helping orchestrate the Chicago organized crime family's attempts to skim profits from an Indian tribe's casino in San Diego. Mr. Petti was one of five people charged in that probe after he was recorded discussing ways to raise money for the illegal venture, Walker said.

Though people tended to write him off as a low-level crook, Mr. Petti was extremely well-connected in the Chicago Outfit, Walker said.

Fortune Magazine, for one, named Mr. Petti No. 47 on its list of the nation's "50 Biggest Mobsters" in 1986. The magazine compiled the list based on information from FBI agents, federal prosecutors and local law enforcement officials.

"This guy had friends at the very top of the Chicago mob, and they were willing to proceed with the [casino] conspiracy at his recommendation, which is huge," Walker said.

[ Source: Chicago Sun-Times, Jan 20, 2006 via findarticles.com ]


55 posted on 01/22/2007 1:46:20 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Well Well Well he certainly was a pleasant fellow
56 posted on 01/22/2007 8:01:49 PM PST by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: jokar

That particular story was quite a sting operation. The FBI just happened to also pick up incriminating evidence of money-laundering by Jerry Brown's ex-Finance Director who, at the time, had become an ally of Pete Wilson and was then married to a woman who would later become mayor of San Diego. He was convicted and sentenced to 46 months in federal prison, serving 37 months.


57 posted on 01/22/2007 9:56:15 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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