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Posted on 01/20/2007 6:51:42 AM PST by Ladycalif
Law would make Minutemen guilty of 'domestic terrorism' 'Patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity' while carrying any weapon would be felony
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ping
The odds of that passing are pretty darn slim.
"Race-based tactics always lead to violence," she insisted. "Remember, the Ku Klux Klan was the first-ever group to patrol the border between the U.S. and Mexico back in the '70s."
And what violence happened?
The rep who sponsored this bill has also sponsored bills calling for a Caesar Chavez Day and a Caesar Chavez Memorial.
Sheesh.
Sinema needs to have her brain in a jar in a medical school somewhere.
It's an act of terrorism to protect this country from terrorists or illegals.
WTF is up with these people, are they all miswired?????
An Arizona lawmaker has introduced a bill to revise the state's statutes on organized crime and fraud by defining "domestic terrorism" in such a way that members of the Minuteman Project or other border-patrol groups could be prosecuted and forced to serve a minimum six-month jail term.Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, introduced HB 2286 in the Arizona House on Thursday.
Sinema, formerly of the Green Party, had earlier submitted a bill asking the legislature to make changes to a law used to prosecute customers of immigrant smugglers as conspirators under Arizona's human trafficking law.
"None of us every dreamed it would be used in a co-conspirator fashion," Sinema said.
As WND reported, it was federal inaction that motivated Arizona lawmakers to approve the new law creating the crime of smuggling in 2005. Maricopa County District Attorney Andrew Thomas announced he would interpret the law to mean illegals caught with a smuggler could be prosecuted as co-conspirators if they paid a coyote to transport them across the border.
"If the customer pays a dope peddler money, he's violated the law," said Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who compares the relationship between coyotes and illegals to drug dealers and their customers. "(Here), they're paying for transport."
That law was upheld last year by a county judge after defense attorneys questioned its constitutionality. Last month, the same judge who upheld the law also overturned the first jury conviction of an illegal immigrant charged as a conspirator under the law, Associated Press reported.
What makes it "race-based"? I thought it was border-based and we don't care what nationality, color, creed, sex, planet of origin, the illegals are. We just want to stop them and are willing to stop a diverse set of folks.
we all now live in bizzaro world....and it is really sad
Liberals think everything is scary. What violence is she talking about? And this wouldn't be "race-based" if the illegals didn't all belong to one race. Leave it to a commie to turn anything into a race issue.
I think you're right, but Arizona has gotten pretty crazy lately. We've posted the offending text on the AZ state discussion board...
Here 'tis...
Sec. 2. Title 13, chapter 23, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 13-2320, to read:
13-2320. Domestic terrorism; classification
A. An individual or group of individuals commits domestic terrorism if the individual or group of individuals are not affiliated with a local, state or federal law enforcement entity and associate with another individual or group of individuals as an organization, group, corporation or company for the purpose of patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity or to individually patrol for the purpose of detecting alleged illegal activity and if the individual or group of individuals is armed with a firearm or other weapon.
B. Any city, town or county that suffers injury arising out of a violation of this section may maintain an action in superior court for the recovery of damages or for an injunction, or both. The court may award the successful party reasonable attorney fees.
C. If the court sentences the defendant to a term of probation, the court shall order that as an initial condition of probation the defendant be imprisoned in the county jail for a period of not less than six months. This jail term of incarceration shall not be deferred, deleted or otherwise suspended and shall commence on the date of sentencing. This subsection does not apply to persons who are sentenced to serve a period of incarceration in the state department of corrections.
D. A violation of this section is a class 5 felony.
I like subpara C, where it says a judge cannot keep you out of jail by sentencing you to probation...the bill contains a mandatory 6 month incarceration provision.
Travis prediction BUMP.
By any chance is this idiot married to a Mexican?
Thanks for the ping. Thanks to all contributors to this thread.
The law seems to have a built in proof problem, i.e. proving the intent of the individual with a gun. He could be hunting, plinking etc.
And the jar should be labeled:
"Abnormal"
Marty Feldman (Young Frankenstein) would see it as "Abby-someone"...
???
"Abby Normal"
- alway get a big kick out of that scene...
But seriously...
Being very familiar with the Minuteman project, everything this elected official says the Minutemen do, has been policed and vetted out of the ranks of those volunteers, and is maintained with some pretty solid standard operating procedures that keep anything from developing...Those personnel that demonstrate the slightest inpropriety are asked to leave, and not allowed to associate with the organization again...
This is just the clean-up process to further wear down the public's (who don't do anything but sit in front of the TV and veg out to Oprah, Jerry Springer, and the MSM) opinion that anyone who desires to serve and protect, whether they are Border Patrol, Customs, DEA, Military, and yes, even the Minutemen, to protect and bring attention to the issue of illegal human trafficking and other activities that exploit and use this crime to draw attention away from their criminal efforts...
Is another example of how the war is being lost in the protection of our soverienty and our people...
And the ones responsible, are the ones who are elected to serve us...
Could this clause be used to prosecute someone for being armed on their own property? What if you just like to wear a sidearm when you're out on your ranch?
Let me see if I've got this right...
a) Make the purchase of commercial air time 30 days before an election by a third party illegal, if the the commercial is to support or criticize a candidate or initiative: Check! McCain/Feingold
b) Reinstitute the "fairness doctorine" in order to get radio stations to cancel conservative talk shows, since there will be no way to give equal time for leftist views: The effect will be to chase conservative "talk" off the "public airwaves," probably moving to the Internet.
c) Come up with a new law that redefines grassroots organizations as "lobbiests" and force them to register with the federal government. Make conservative bloggers and other web sites subject to federal election laws, restrictions, and fines.
Yup, the politicians (both rats and pubbies) are trying to get anyone who's interesting in knowing what's going on with politics OUT of politics. The only people they want voting are the ones they can manipulate, and the last thing they want is an informed voter.
Mark
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