Posted on 01/21/2007 9:15:57 AM PST by mr. mojo risin
**** UPDATE, 01/19/07: Looks like Hillary Clinton's camp agrees with me and has dug up more info that confirms my suspicions about Obama and his Muslim background, including his attendance at a Wahabbi (ie., extremist Sunni) Madrassa (Islamic religious academy). Hillary's camp says Obama is covering up his Muslim past. Why? ****
Many months ago, readers began asking me whether Barack Obama is Muslim. Since he identifies as a Christian, I said, "no," and responded that he was not raised by his Kenyan father.
But, then, I decided to look further into Obama's background. His full name--as by now you have probably heard--is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali's son--Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.
And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that's not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they do not.
Then, there are the other items in his background. As best-selling author Scott Turow wrote in Salon, Obama went to a Muslim school for two years in Indonesia. His mother, Anna, married an Indonesian man (likely another Muslim, as Indonesia is Muslim-dominated and has the largest Islamic population in the world).
And Obama has a "born-again" affinity for the nation of his Muslim father, Kenya, and his Kenyan sister. (Although Kenya is largely Christian, it has a fast-growing Muslim population that has engaged in a good deal of religious violence and riots against Christians. And Kenyan courts will apply Sharia law, when the participants are Muslim.) Wrote Turow:
Obama's father died in a traffic accident in Nairobi in 1982, but while Obama was working in Chicago, he met his Kenyan sister, Auma, a linguist educated in Germany who was visiting the United States. When she returned to Kenya in 1986 to teach for a year at the University of Nairobi, Obama finally made the trip to his father's homeland he had long promised himself. There, he managed to fully embrace a heritage and a family he'd never fully known and come to terms with his father, whom he'd long regarded as an august foreign prince, but now realized was a human being burdened by his own illusions and vulnerabilities. So, even if he identifies strongly as a Christian, and even if he despised the behavior of his father (as Obama said on Oprah); is a man who Muslims think is a Muslim, who feels some sort of psychological need to prove himself to his absent Muslim father, and who is now moving in the direction of his father's heritage, a man we want as President when we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam? Where will his loyalties be?
Is that even the man we'd want to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, if Hillary Clinton offers him the Vice Presidential candidacy on her ticket (which he certainly wouldn't turn down)?
NO WAY, JOSE . . . Or, is that, HUSSEIN?
Farber says Clinton was forced to announce early because of the campaign emergency created by her incompetent campaign staff in jumping on the Obama madrassah issue.
This is pretty lame. It's the guy's ultra-liberal orthodoxy that does him in, not his absent father in Kenya.
Utterly stupid.
This is just plain wrong.
My former inlaws were born Muslim but converted to Christianity and faced years of persecution in Pakistan before moving to the US. Schussel disses any Christian who underwent similar hardship with this sweeping statement.
Unless someone can find where Obama shows that he still harbors core Muslim beliefs, she needs to take a different approach here.
"Witness the beginning of the end of America..."
In concert with Hillary, the left and the enemedia.
How does a goat herder become an 'august foreign prince' ?
His refusal to change his middle name ?
My former inlaws never changed theirs. Does that make them less Christian? I mean, other than the fact that my former mother-in-law preached Christianity in Pakistan and got shot at a couple of times for doing such, she must still be a Muslim at heart.
The sheeple wil vote for him.
No question about THAT.
It's part of the dumbing down of America.
This is idiotic and the wrong tactic to take in opposing Obama's candidacy.
Who is Farber?
But if Obama became president, it would certainly drive radical Muslims into even more frenzied rage. The POTUS would be an apostate in their eyes.
How would that effect foreign policy? That is certainly a reasonable question to ask.
Radio talkshow. He is the best by far. We get his show once a week, 5AM Sunday morning, which means I get to hear him even if the only other ones up then are police and crimnuals.
the same way anyone with a head scarf and a koran becomes a holy iman.
Thanks.
Yep, and comparing Hitlery to Obama is comparing apples to apples, when it comes to our national sovereignty.
Obamamania is a total sham, in my opinion. I think his polling numbers are artificial. People say they would vote for him because they do not want to be perceived as racist. It's a stupid reason to answer a poll, but that's what we've come to these days.
That's why we need to spend billions upon billions on education as a nation. /sarc
How does a goat herder become an 'august foreign prince' ?
If his father was an official in the terrorist Mao-Mao organization.
I think the issue here should be why in all his books and interviews he never mentioned that while he lived in Indonesia with his step father he attended Muslim schools.
Also, he keeps saying his father was a poor, goat herder in Kenya. Just how does a poor, goat herder manage to finance a college education in America for his son?
The issue is not about religion. It is about honesty. We got one President whose past was unquestioned. Lets not go through that again.
I think Debbie Schlussel needs a vacation
"This is idiotic and the wrong tactic to take in opposing Obama's candidacy."
Agreed. Since when do we take the Clinton approach?
I don't think anything a candidate was made to do as a kid should be a factor. The fact that some folks here make it an issue says far more about them than it does Obama.
He was 6 years old, for goodness sake. Somebody needs to get back on their meds.
Debbie has good information, but I'd wish she'd be less shrill. That article could have lost the last 3 sentences.
Let's make this simple. Regardless of their real name, the real label for all democrap candidates is "Da Debbel".
Well, if you look at Obama's church (a UCC "activist" congregation which is the plaything of a particular pastor and has little in terms of orthodox beliefs), his ties to Christianity are suspect.
Still, I really don't think he harbors a lot of affinity for Islam. The only issue is, would a large segment of the Muslim world find it to be their religious duty to kill the world's most famous apostate?
Just read D.S.'s bio. WOW
True, he was 6. What this says about Barack Obama is nothing. What it says about his mother and stepfather is a bit more.
Is that Barry Farber? (Only radio Farber I know.) Used to listen to him out of NY in the 70s if I remember correctly. He was my late night listening after the departure of Long John Nebel.
Well, at least this is instructive. Most Americans aren't aware of this doctrine of the religion of peace.
Everyone thinks Obama is a flash in the pan, but I don't. I have a bad, bad feeling about this guy, who I think is further to the left than Hilary. This guy redefines slick.
"In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they do not."
I don't really care what "Muslims would think.
I think Obama/Osama is a charismatic phony, but not for the reason in this (imo) poorly written article.
I have a different take.
I believe Hillary is involved in the whole Obama thing. Here's what I know:
It has been stated that Soros is funding Obama's campaign - because he's anti-war. Several of Hillary's cabal are running Soros' organizations. While Soros appears to be making rumbles about Hillary supporting the war .. I'm not buying it and I believe Soros was forced to say those things because the "ultra kook left" are the groups he's funding and he found it necessary to kow-tow to them in order to keep them sending in the dollars.
Secondly, the dems are very worried about the black vote. While a lot of black repubs didn't win in 2006 (as hoped), they did garner a lot of votes .. showing there are a lot of black Christians who are totally against abortion and homosexuality .. drawing them away from the extreme left of the dem party. What better counter than a BLACK MAN as VP ..??
But .. his being a Muslim is a BIG BIG PROBLEM .. unless Hillary falsely believes that she must woo the Muslim vote and will thereby have the advantage of more voters.
I'm not buying this Hillary/Obama fued .. I believe it's more like collusion .. because that is how the Clinton's operate - intimidation and collusion.
"Unless someone can find where Obama shows that he still harbors core Muslim beliefs, she needs to take a different approach here."
I agree that people can change if they truly desire. However his refusal to answer questions about it shows that he is not only a liar but that he hasn't changed.
"Everyone thinks Obama is a flash in the pan, but I don't. I have a bad, bad feeling about this guy, who I think is further to the left than Hilary. This guy redefines slick."
I think he's a flash in the pan but the power people that hate America seem to have taken a liking for him. That is what makes him dangerous.
Another one to take the oath of POTUS on the Koran and not the Bible.
Great, just F'n great.
Schussel often manages to correctly highlight matters that the MSM ignores, but her analyses are usually a bit hysterical.
The relevant thing about Obama is that the Muslims regard him as under a death sentence for apostacy. I have no doubt he is an adherent of whatever liberal protestant sect his mother raised him in.
Oddly, if we are going to have a socialist get elected President in '08, it might actually be good if he were it: the assassination attempt(s) that are sure to come from assorted jihadis would concentrate the mind of the left on defending Western Civilization.
There's another issue - how would a President Obama fight a war against Isamist terrorists?
oops, Islamist!
In my many years of living and working among Muslims, I have met many of those who converted from Christianity to Islam. Even today, this fact is well established witnessed by the many Muslim athletes. I have yet to meet a Christian convert from Islam. I would very much like to know what makes them tick and why they made this decision.
What is worse is that he is a heavy smoker, a no no in today's liberal media.
"Haven't you heard this is the melting pot of the world."
No, it's the pressure cooker.
He has been around that long. Gets better all the time.
From what I can tell, his mother was an atheist and Obama didn't grow up with a religious instruction. He became Christian largely through the church of which he's currently a member. That is my understanding.
Just remember what Scripture says about somebody with a head wound in the last days.
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