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ABC NEWS: DOCS SEIZED IN IRAQ REVEAL INSURGENT PLAN FOR ATTACK IN U.S.(Update with story)
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Posted on 01/22/2007 12:16:37 PM PST by maquiladora

Edited on 01/22/2007 12:29:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: jdm

Students, and foreign students especially, are supposed to show up a week or several weeks in advance of classes for orientations and such.


101 posted on 01/22/2007 12:42:15 PM PST by DrGunsforHands
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To: MPJackal
We know what to expect from ABC. The real question is who gave this intel TO ABC? And for what in return?

Traitors like these are satisfied if their treason harms President Bush and the US...they don't need anything else to feed their BDS!

102 posted on 01/22/2007 12:42:18 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Bill Clinton soiled his legacy, in retaliation the DBM is soiling President Bush's legacy.)
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To: jdm

Oh, I remember that story. There was a lot about that story that didn't make sense.


103 posted on 01/22/2007 12:42:26 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Mo1

There's also an enrollment deadline, usually a couple weeks before classes. (I'm not sure how the foreign student registrations works, but it seems as if safeguards were in place, and worked as designed) It's most probable they were red flagged during registration.


104 posted on 01/22/2007 12:43:03 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: maquiladora; tomkow6; tongue-tied; Allegra; All

OH OH NOT GOOD


105 posted on 01/22/2007 12:43:23 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: onyx; Peach; Mo1

RE: #76. Wouldn't it be a little strange to get busted in August 2006, for not showing up for your college course, which, by the way, doesn't even START until September 6!?!

Some things here don't add up.


106 posted on 01/22/2007 12:43:24 PM PST by jdm
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To: Tokra

Perfect description of the way the moonbats think!!


107 posted on 01/22/2007 12:43:31 PM PST by CedarDave (Nancy Pelosi - Look alike twin to the Georgia runaway-bride. Now if she would only run away too...)
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To: jdm

See my #104 for a theory.


108 posted on 01/22/2007 12:44:01 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Hillary to Mark Halprin to the publc.

Not exactly Tinkers to Evers to Chance.


109 posted on 01/22/2007 12:44:04 PM PST by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I saw Mike Nifong on TV.)
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To: commish

BOY Iraqi terrorists must be tick off that team didn't win


110 posted on 01/22/2007 12:44:11 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Tokra
To the liberal mind the logical steps are easy:

The only problem there is that it's not just the liberal mind that works in. The overwhelming majority of jihadist propaganda runs directly down that line, as well.

One of the most fascinating aspects of al-Qa'ida is it's ability to mutate and adapt. In this regard, they may well be incorporating the words of American left wingers, as they find that subverting propaganda already in use is very effective.

So, true or not, your "logical progression" arguement is used not only by liberals, but by terrorist recruiters.

111 posted on 01/22/2007 12:44:31 PM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Rutles4Ever
"Eventually, some loose cannon is going to break away from the Al Qaeda apparatus, get a couple people, and do it on their own."

I'm glad that al Queda only thinks in grandiose terms, which means they spend a lot of time planning and scheming and not actually committing terrorist attacks. The DC sniper showed what just one guy with a rifle can do to get the whole country on edge. They could do a lot of small-scale, inexpensive stuff that would be very hard to prevent or detect, and would have a tremendous impact on the public psyche. They could start forest fires, random murders, random arson, poison water supplies, sabotage the power grid, etc, and probably not be caught for a long time.
112 posted on 01/22/2007 12:45:02 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: dirtboy

"This outta get the conspiracy moonbats tweaking, coming just before SOTU."

Ah! But "24" is on tonight. ;)


113 posted on 01/22/2007 12:45:18 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: maquiladora

ABC = Spies and Saboteurs
When are we going to see TREASON TRIALS?


114 posted on 01/22/2007 12:45:24 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Indy Pendance

I concur.


115 posted on 01/22/2007 12:46:28 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: sageb1

Wonder if any 18-wheelers will be used in tonite's 24.


116 posted on 01/22/2007 12:46:46 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Tokra
Therefore it is obviously the fault of George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice and Dick Cheney.

And of course 9-11 was a direct result of Bush getting elected (or stealing the election)!

117 posted on 01/22/2007 12:46:53 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: rhombus

...or the left will say, "See, if we weren't in Iraq, these people would mean us no harm."


118 posted on 01/22/2007 12:48:35 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: maquiladora

Charlie Gibson!!!!!
You ought to b charged with TREASON.


119 posted on 01/22/2007 12:48:38 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: maquiladora

Well, we know whose fault this is. If we'd just sat down and talked with them, we could have found out what they wanted, bargained a little, and everyone would be happy. (From dem handbook...They really believe this.)Forget that they murdered more than 3000 Americans, etc. Just give them what they want. They don't care who gets killed as long as it's not themselves or anyone they mix with at cocktail parties. As long as they can continue their upscale lifestyle, the rest of us should sit down and shut up.


120 posted on 01/22/2007 12:49:04 PM PST by hershey
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To: jdm

Not strange --- those missing "students" were widely publicized. Our guys lost track of them and that was worrisome to say the least.


121 posted on 01/22/2007 12:49:46 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: NCSteve

Please, teach me how, oh master, for I do not have the patience on my own!

Here's my substantive response (and I even know what that word you used means!)

While I realize we have lost some freedoms, ex: scrutiny at airports and submitting to the tactics of the NSA, I believe that the threat we face from terrorists is real, and I want my president do do all that can be done. The murder of nearly 3000 innocents on 9/11 convinced me that the threat is real, even though our nation missed the threats in several previous attacks on our nation and our interests abroad.

If I'm just being a chicken little, and all my freedoms are slowly being denied, guess I'll see you in the resettlement camp. (I'll be the short, round, gray-haired female with the flower in my lapel.)


122 posted on 01/22/2007 12:50:28 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Growing old isn't so bad, especially when you consider the alternative!)
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To: Steel Wolf
"One of the most fascinating aspects of al-Qa'ida is it's ability to mutate and adapt. In this regard, they may well be incorporating the words of American left wingers, as they find that subverting propaganda already in use is very effective."

Definitely. There was a thread on this very topic a few months ago, how AQ picks up stuff from the Western press and uses it in their propaganda, as when they criticize the USA for not signing Kyoto, for not having universal health care, etc. Another example is the ridiculous idea that Arabs hate the the USA because we support Middle Eastern dictatorships, when in the next breath they say they hate us because we invaded Iraq and OVERTHREW a brutal dictatorship. The blatant contradiction is accepted uncritically by the Left and by the MSM.
123 posted on 01/22/2007 12:50:39 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steel Wolf
The only problem there is that it's not just the liberal mind that works in. The overwhelming majority of jihadist propaganda runs directly down that line, as well.
One of the most fascinating aspects of al-Qa'ida is it's ability to mutate and adapt. In this regard, they may well be incorporating the words of American left wingers, as they find that subverting propaganda already in use is very effective.
So, true or not, your "logical progression" arguement is used not only by liberals, but by terrorist recruiters.

You are, of course, correct. But when it comes to the War on Terror - I lump the terrorists and the libs together.

124 posted on 01/22/2007 12:50:49 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: maquiladora

Of course they can slip through in an academic setting. Most US colleges actively recruit "students" from countries that sponsor terrorism, and many academics hate the USA and think that we got what we deserved.

Unfortunately the media will cover this once then hide it. Can't let the American public regain confidence in GW Bush!


125 posted on 01/22/2007 12:50:52 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is ..... see my user name.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

bttt


126 posted on 01/22/2007 12:51:45 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: truthluva

"I wonder if this is why we are seeing a surge in the number of Muslims complaining about stereotyping? Sorta laying the ground work to help get these people into the country by 'shaming' the U.S. so that less common sense is used by the transportation industry."
truthluva has got it absolutely right!!!!!


127 posted on 01/22/2007 12:52:00 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is ..... see my user name.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Yes, that makes sense


128 posted on 01/22/2007 12:52:21 PM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
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To: maquiladora

I'm stunned...I didn't think Iraq had terrorists or any Al-Queda members for that matter. Wow. And to think they'd plan an attack on America....why, why do they want to hurt us?</sarc>


129 posted on 01/22/2007 12:55:02 PM PST by Lucky9teen (You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

You can say that again. It's almost like a work of art to them. The D.C. sniper was, in some ways, the essence of the kind of fear a terrorist attack is intended to generate. The alphabets have gone rather unappreciated in the past few years, shutting down terror cells here and across the world.


130 posted on 01/22/2007 12:55:25 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Mo1

I'm just basing that from my own college experience. Trying to get a class after registration closes is a real pita, waiting lists, signatures from profs and department heads, plus the administration paperwork. It has to be extra hard for a foreign student to go through that process, or maybe not. Nevertheless, you are registered for classes several weeks, if not months in advance. I usually registered in spring before the finals.


131 posted on 01/22/2007 12:55:42 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
It's most probable they were red flagged during registration.

That's not what the article said, though. The article said the red flag came up when they failed to report to classes. What type of classes, though? Since the article didn't specifically say orientation classes, the reader is to assume they are referring to "class-CLASS," which didn't start until September 6.

I'm not saying I don't agree with your theory, only that in order for it to be true, the article would have been written differently, one would think, anyway.

132 posted on 01/22/2007 12:57:26 PM PST by jdm
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To: LucyT
...the plot may have involved moving between 10 and 20 suspects believed to be affiliated with al Qaeda in Iraq into the United States with student visas

FYI Ping

134 posted on 01/22/2007 1:00:09 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: txflake

No, they will spin it that Bush is leaking this on purpose to make people "fear" again so that they will be more supportive.
Mark my words.


135 posted on 01/22/2007 1:02:46 PM PST by amutr22
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To: jdm
Is this the line you are referencing?

"University officials must report international students who fail to arrive on campus or miss class regularly."

I don't know the arrival dates for foreign students, do they have to report to an 'advisor' prior to classes starting? I'd think they'd want to give them all those touchy-feely classes prior to the sememster starting. If they 'miss class regularly', than, that's a different situation.

But near the end, the article states:

"The plan was uncovered in its early stages, and sources say there is no indication that the suspects made it into the United States

So, it appears as if they missed their reporting to school date.

136 posted on 01/22/2007 1:02:50 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
This line:

In August, the FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement alerted intelligence agencies and state and local law enforcement about 11 Egyptian students who had failed to report to their classes at Montana State University.

137 posted on 01/22/2007 1:04:07 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

I wonder if this is just bad reporting. They never made it to the US, but, they have to report to the adminstative people prior to classes starting.


138 posted on 01/22/2007 1:06:30 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: jdm; BigSkyFreeper
Just a thought --- when do classes commence in Montana?

Lat August or early September?
139 posted on 01/22/2007 1:08:06 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: rhombus
The left will say it's a ruse invented to shore up Bush's sagging poll ratings.

But ABC works for THEM.
140 posted on 01/22/2007 1:08:06 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: maquiladora

The good news is that AQ is mired in static patterns of behavior. The bad news is that we seem to be also.


141 posted on 01/22/2007 1:08:22 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: onyx

You think cold weather changes class schedules?


142 posted on 01/22/2007 1:08:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am wondering, yes.


143 posted on 01/22/2007 1:10:11 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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To: Indy Pendance

Probably bad reporting. The residence hall didn't even open until Sept. 3, 2006, yet the article speaks as if loads of action was happening in August when, in reality, most of the action would be happening in September.


144 posted on 01/22/2007 1:10:25 PM PST by jdm
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To: MPJackal
Just the usual moles in our enormous bureaucracies that seek to undermine foreign policy.

Unless there is a Dem President of course.
145 posted on 01/22/2007 1:10:36 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: commish

Maybe the libs will begin watching "24" more closely now and believe that "IT" could happen here.


146 posted on 01/22/2007 1:11:37 PM PST by Carolinamom (To oppose everything while proposing nothing is irresponsible. -- President Bush)
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To: onyx

I posted the link to MSU Fall schedule here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1771793/posts?page=76#76

Classes always begin in Sept at that school.


147 posted on 01/22/2007 1:12:07 PM PST by jdm
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For fair weather terrorists, it sure does. When my kid was in Iraq, they could 'predict' attacks based on the weather. If it was hot, or rainy, or sandstorms, or cold, or prayer time (I know, not weather related, but you get the drift), the attacks plummeted. So, if it was snowing in September in Montana, I'm sure they the terrorists had weather related 'issues'. :)


148 posted on 01/22/2007 1:12:32 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Steve_Seattle

"One of the most fascinating aspects of al-Qa'ida is it's ability to mutate and adapt."

BOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!





(Hey, just helping along the mutation process!)


149 posted on 01/22/2007 1:13:06 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: jdm

Thanks. There's one theory gone to h.


150 posted on 01/22/2007 1:13:48 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky .)
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