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ABC NEWS: DOCS SEIZED IN IRAQ REVEAL INSURGENT PLAN FOR ATTACK IN U.S.(Update with story)
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Posted on 01/22/2007 12:16:37 PM PST by maquiladora

Edited on 01/22/2007 12:29:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: jdm

Do the rules differ for foreign students, ie: report earlier to campus than US students?


151 posted on 01/22/2007 1:14:00 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: maquiladora; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Allegra; dasher; GulfBreeze; ...

Ahhhh, didn't they do a dry run last year with all those "band" or "students" coming in and then "scattering" all over the country...We eventually caught all of them, and sent them home...

Good thinkin'.../sarcasm

They must have learned alot then, and are ready to take advantage of the situation...

Nothing to see here...Move along...Move along people...


152 posted on 01/22/2007 1:16:30 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Let me guess................

It's all Bush's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /sarcasm off

153 posted on 01/22/2007 1:16:56 PM PST by pctech
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To: maquiladora

Repeat after me, THERE ARE NO AL-QAEDA TERRORISTS IN IRAQ. THERE ARE NO TERRORISTS ANYWHERE. Bush, Cheney, and Rove made them up out of whole cloth. 9/11 never happened. And if it did, the Bush admin did it. Or knew about it. So say all the libs.


154 posted on 01/22/2007 1:18:34 PM PST by driftless2
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To: stevie_d_64

Thanks for the ping


155 posted on 01/22/2007 1:20:16 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: maquiladora
Come on!!!! we been told that there are NO TERRIORST in Iraq... just ask the demcoRATs
156 posted on 01/22/2007 1:20:27 PM PST by geo40xyz (Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT)
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To: maquiladora

The liberal press will try and candy coat this one.


157 posted on 01/22/2007 1:24:34 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: maquiladora

Ah, yes--keep increasing those visa numbers congresscritters. See where it gets us.


158 posted on 01/22/2007 1:27:58 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: rhombus

The press could say that but the docs were discovered 6 months ago. If GWB wanted to boost election results -- something that was much needed -- he would have leaked the doc finding in late October/early November. Poll results rise and fall but election results are permanent.


159 posted on 01/22/2007 1:34:51 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo (DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
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To: Theresawithanh
While I realize we have lost some freedoms, ex: scrutiny at airports and submitting to the tactics of the NSA, I believe that the threat we face from terrorists is real, and I want my president do do all that can be done.

They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.
-- Benjamin Franklin

You missed the point of my post. Anyone can threaten us, but that is not the same as someone being a threat to us. I can tell you I'm going to yank your ear, but since I don't know who you really are or where you are located, I am really no threat to you. The Fijans can hatch a diabolical plot to attack San Diego, but they are hardly a plausible threat, and that hardly merits a response from us that includes locking down the country under onerous restrictions.

As well, you missed the fact that I said that ABC is engaged in advance shilling for the Democrats when they launch their very own initiatives to roll over your freedoms in the name of saving you from something, anything. You ain't seen nothing yet.

160 posted on 01/22/2007 1:38:21 PM PST by NCSteve
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To: EagleUSA
ABC just betrayed their best friends. They should be held accountable.

ABC outed Plan A, which was just a stalking horse.

Their friends are working on Plans B,C and D.

161 posted on 01/22/2007 1:38:49 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: maquiladora

If we leave Iraq with tail between legs, they will follow us home...


162 posted on 01/22/2007 1:39:09 PM PST by GOPJ (What secret justified Sandy Berger risking jail and ruin? His first time? I think NOT.)
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To: maquiladora

If we leave Iraq with tail between legs, they will follow us home...


163 posted on 01/22/2007 1:40:34 PM PST by GOPJ (What secret justified Sandy Berger risking ruin? His first secret theft? I think NOT.)
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To: HamiltonJay
WHA WHA WHAT????

But But But..

I've been told war in Iraq had nothing to do with the War on Terror....

You took the words rightouttamymouth!!!

Regards,

TS

164 posted on 01/22/2007 1:44:34 PM PST by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: maquiladora

IF, IF we believe cells are already here... (which I do)

Why would they need to send the others?


165 posted on 01/22/2007 1:46:41 PM PST by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: maquiladora

Didn't we just let in a bunch of Saudi students? Did we ever find ALL of the missimg arab students that were destined for CO a few months ago?


166 posted on 01/22/2007 1:48:55 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Chani

for later consumption


167 posted on 01/22/2007 1:49:03 PM PST by Chani (Happy cows make good cheese.)
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To: King Moonracer

Not only are there no terrorists in the US, even if there WERE, now that the Dems are in charge, they have no reason to attack us. It's true -- Ted Kennedy told me so. *snerk*


168 posted on 01/22/2007 1:51:42 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: maquiladora

WOW! The MSM woke the hell up and noticed that Iraq wanted to Attack us?

OMG! I have to go play the Lottery RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


169 posted on 01/22/2007 1:53:02 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Danae
WOW! The MSM woke the hell up and noticed that Iraq wanted to Attack us?

It must be because they think that Hillary! is the only person who can save us.

-PJ

170 posted on 01/22/2007 1:54:34 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: maquiladora
insurgents reportedly tied to al Qaeda in Iraq considered using student visas to slip terrorists into the United States to orchestrate a new attack on American soil.

Yet stupid leftist dims like Murtha,Pelosi, Hildabeast and others continue to maintain that fighting in Iraq is not part of the War on Terror.

171 posted on 01/22/2007 1:55:01 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (America For Americans)
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To: onyx

Often universities have summer sessions that begin in July ( I know our Summer II session does), or special seminar classes that are a week or so long, and usually start late in summer...


172 posted on 01/22/2007 1:57:40 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: maquiladora

Dear me, my astigmatism is really acting up. I thought title was dogs that were attack dogs that were going to be running loose in America killing people. Wow what a nutcase I am today.


173 posted on 01/22/2007 1:59:02 PM PST by mel
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To: savedbygrace

LOL!


174 posted on 01/22/2007 2:01:30 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: dirtboy
This outta get the conspiracy moonbats tweaking, coming just before SOTU.

It won't affect them at all. Their line will be thus: 'If we weren't in Iraq, the islamofascist nuts would not be bothering us'.

Don't take my word for it though, call Chuck Hagel.

175 posted on 01/22/2007 2:03:29 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: maquiladora
"Anyone willing to go to Iraq to fight American troops is probably willing to try to come to the United States," Clarke said.

Well yes, Richard, it was called 9/11. And guess what: they will do it again and again, even if we 'redeploy' our troops.

Astounding the ignorance and delusions of the kook liberals. As if we will be free from attacks if we just leave the terrorists alone.

176 posted on 01/22/2007 2:03:48 PM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Danae
WOW! The MSM woke the hell up and noticed that Iraq wanted to Attack us?

Maybe reality is setting in and they're frightened at the prospect of Hillary as Commander in Chief.

177 posted on 01/22/2007 2:06:24 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: maquiladora

Gee, ABC is reporting that there is al Qaeda in Iraq? I wonder if they cleared this story with Hitlery, Weasley Cluck, How-weird Dean, Bella Lugosi Pelosi, Dingy Harry, et. al., who have been telling us for years that their ain't no connection between Iraq and al Qaeda?


178 posted on 01/22/2007 2:10:01 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: maquiladora

So? The contention is that the US is creating terrorists. From reading the excerpt, it doesn't say this plan predated the US attack on Iraq. The left will say, "I told you so".


179 posted on 01/22/2007 2:12:16 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: MaestroLC

Why am I so not surprised that ABC would hire a pitiful, self-imnportant scumbag like Clarke as a "consultant"? Thanks for all your great anti-terror work during the Clinton Administration, Richard.


180 posted on 01/22/2007 2:12:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: maquiladora

Terrorists planning on US attack. Hm - Bush's open border policy is making more sense now - NOT!


181 posted on 01/22/2007 2:18:39 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: txflake

new AQ tape out


182 posted on 01/22/2007 2:22:24 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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DOCS SEIZED IN IRAQ REVEAL INSURGENT PLAN FOR ATTACK IN U.S.

How can this be? The libs/media keep telling us that Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism and fighting over there wouldn't keep us safer here. If we weren't in Iraq, how would we have gotten these docs that tipped off the operation?

183 posted on 01/22/2007 2:37:34 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: freeperfromnj

I really want to know the TIMEFRAME of these documents. Were these written BEFORE the War took Saddam out?

Why isn't that in the Article?

When were the documents written?


184 posted on 01/22/2007 2:39:21 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: School of Rational Thought
So? The contention is that the US is creating terrorists. From reading the excerpt, it doesn't say this plan predated the US attack on Iraq. The left will say, "I told you so".

Well, that's essentially true, but it starts from a skewed premise. The U.S. 'creates terrorists' simply by existing and not converting to Islam. Now, we may take actions that are good for terrorist propaganda and recruiting, and those actions may 'make more terrorists'. That's essentially a valid observation. It just misses the point.

Western civilization and Islamic civilization are on a crash course. That friction will continue to create more terrorists, even if America vanished tomorrow. Clearly, if we take action to fight terrorism, it will spawn more terrorism, just as terrorist attacks against us will generate retaliatory strkes. There's no way to avoid that until the underlying issue is settled.

And that issue is that there ain't enough room in this town for the both of us.

185 posted on 01/22/2007 2:44:12 PM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: wastedyears; Godzilla; HipShot; Cindy; Oorang; judicial meanz; Old Sarge; Mossad1967; ...
we could organize Delta and SIX to completely and utterly destroy any attack inside this country.

Those two groups aren't big enough to get the job done on anything done in multiple cities and on a much bigger scale. Heck even Jack Bauer missed and a lousy .2 KT manpad device blew the heck outta L.A. last week! Four more devices left and now Bauer is having a nervous breakdown! Stay tuned to this BAUER channel at this BAUER time!

Seriously, I think the scenario posed on 24 is highly likely, even probable. IF the border has been used over the last six years (as it has been suspected) to bring in cells and devices they'll be scattered all over the country and while some cells will have specific targets and timetables, others will be given no specific targets but rather orders to stir up as much death and destruction as possible with more conventional means. Those folks won't have handlers, and they won't be skilled in tradecraft. The real cells will have all of that available. Figure at least two guys for logistics to establish safehouses and documents and jobs as needed. One or two for intelligence gathering on the target and then the full team of operators. These cells will have primary, secondary and tertiary targets. They will be self directed AFTER the "GO" code is given.

Here's the kicker: Doing the math based on stats given by the US Border Patrol and ICE based on the numbers of illegals CAUGHT over the last ten years....with 10% of them being from "threat" nations.....there is the possibility of having over SEVENTY THOUSAND active terrorists inside our borders right now, awaiting the "go" code. If they all cut loose at once all over the country can DELTA and SIX handle them alone? I think not.

Of course, that's the REAL purpose for having a Second Amendment in our Constitution to begin with. Think of all the FORMER SEALs and DELTA guys and even Airborne Rangers who have ets'd, or retired. NOW it's becoming a more workable issue. Heck even the patriots who never served but love this country and shoot IDPA or IPSC or just hunt a lot....will be worth their weight in gold. Try not to cut down the liberals who cross your line of fire waving their hands and....bleating....they too have their story....

186 posted on 01/22/2007 2:47:04 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: maquiladora

So? Why would this surprise or shock anyone? If it's a war, they get to attack us, too.


187 posted on 01/22/2007 2:52:37 PM PST by Grut
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To: ExSoldier

Thanks ExSoldier for the ping.


188 posted on 01/22/2007 3:01:10 PM PST by Cindy
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To: ExSoldier

Excellent post ExS, thanks.


189 posted on 01/22/2007 3:07:07 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: maquiladora

Warner and Coleman have joined the Congressional Traitor Corp!


190 posted on 01/22/2007 3:10:58 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: ExSoldier

You can throw in opportunists of all stripes and the "enemy of my enemy" crowd as well.


191 posted on 01/22/2007 3:11:10 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: dirtboy; onyx
This outta get the conspiracy moonbats tweaking, coming just before SOTU.

More I think about it .. maybe that is the intention of putting this story out now .. considering is was known about 6 months ago

192 posted on 01/22/2007 3:12:19 PM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
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To: Mo1

Could be.


193 posted on 01/22/2007 3:16:54 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: ExSoldier; WestCoastGal

Spot on.

A little British lingo there.


194 posted on 01/22/2007 3:17:16 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: maquiladora
Sources tell ABC News that the plot may have involved moving between 10 and 20 suspects believed to be affiliated with al Qaeda in Iraq into the United States with student visas

Why not learn some Spanish and come in through Mexico - after a quick catch-n-release (with the White House's blessing) they'll be on their way to killing some Infidels!

195 posted on 01/22/2007 3:17:16 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: maquiladora
Watch the full report tonight on "World News with Charles Gibson."

Or watch the full demonstration of what it would be like, tonight on "24" with Jack Bauer.

196 posted on 01/22/2007 3:20:04 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Mr. Jeeves

It wasn't me!


197 posted on 01/22/2007 3:22:13 PM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths, and lies, and distortions..)
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To: onyx
Just a thought --- when do classes commence in Montana?

Right after Labor Day.

198 posted on 01/22/2007 3:35:03 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Already settled, but thanks anyway.


199 posted on 01/22/2007 3:36:52 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: onyx

Beyond that, these were the same colleges that Jon Tester was in charge of when he was in the Montana Legislature.


200 posted on 01/22/2007 3:40:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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