Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

China Confirms It Has Shot Down Satellite
AllHeadlineNews ^ | 1/23/07 | Jacob Cherian

Posted on 01/23/2007 5:50:10 AM PST by XR7

Beijing, China (AHN) - China confirmed Tuesday that it had tested anti-satellite weapon.

However, it added that the nation does not have intentions of an arms race in space.

Beijing said it had officially told the governments of the U.S., and Japan about the missile test.

The Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said China was interested only in "peaceful development of outer space."

The satellite intercept test is said to be the first of its kind in well over 20 years and there are concerns that it may give rise to a space arms race.

An article in the American Aviation Week and Space Technology was one of the first to report that the test had taken place.

In the report, it was said that the Chinese Feng Yun 1C polar orbit weather satellite was obliterated by an anti-satellite system launched from or near Xichang Space Center in China on January 11.

The test is believed to have taken place approximately 537 miles above the earth.

U.S. National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe, who confirmed the report last Thursday said at the time, "(the U.S.) believes China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the spirit of co-operation that both countries aspire to in the civil space area".

The U.S. space policy, revised in October, says Washington reserves the right to freedom of action in space, and the U.S. itself is said to be working on research on "satellite-killing" weapons, reports BBC.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; clinton; communistchina; cosco; hillary; huang; johnhuang; lippo; lippogroup; longbeach; microcomputers; missiles; redchina; satellite; starwars; technology; x42
Remember how just before 9/11 FR was abuzz about China's acts of belligerence?(Just check out the pre-9/11 FR threads and see) Remember how communist China detained the US plane crew and dismantled the plane, piece-by-piece? George W. Bush was facing one of the greatest challenges of his presidency - and then came 9/11, and everyone stopped talking about China. Remember?
1 posted on 01/23/2007 5:50:14 AM PST by XR7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: XR7

I think the sat. had an bomb in it and they just exploded it to make it appear they could hit it.


2 posted on 01/23/2007 5:53:55 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: XR7
"The Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said China was interested only in "peaceful development of outer space."

And to prove that we are only interested in peaceful development in space, we blew up a satellite. Just how freakin' stupid do these Rickshaw Ricks think we are?
3 posted on 01/23/2007 5:54:02 AM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: XR7

It's past time to start thinking about China again. This satellite missle test sends a frightening message. What better way to confuse an enemy than to disable it's communications.


4 posted on 01/23/2007 5:55:33 AM PST by al_c
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate
I think the sat. had an bomb in it and they just exploded it to make it appear they could hit it.

Especially useful after three misses.

5 posted on 01/23/2007 5:57:23 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate

The Chinese dont do anything for no reason.

They sent us a message. They know of course that we can shoot down sattelites also.

If we can go up and repair them we can of course remove them. This message tells us they can also shoot down the Space Shuttle and the Space station.

Their reasons for this message will become apparent one day.


6 posted on 01/23/2007 5:57:42 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: XR7

If you want peace, prepare for war.....Julius Caesar.........


7 posted on 01/23/2007 5:59:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: XR7
The Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said China was interested only in "peaceful development of outer space."

BS

8 posted on 01/23/2007 5:59:35 AM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: XR7

We should be proud of our technology that the Clinton Administration gave to China. Our stuff works.


9 posted on 01/23/2007 5:59:49 AM PST by Flint
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: al_c
What better way to confuse an enemy than to disable it's communications.

Unless the Chinese have a way of blanking out the HF band, that will never happen............

10 posted on 01/23/2007 6:00:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: XR7
Thank you Mr. Clinton for having a hand in this missile development, you should feel very proud of yourself.
11 posted on 01/23/2007 6:01:03 AM PST by hodaka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Flint
We should be proud of our technology that the Clinton Administration gave to China. Our stuff works.

Bingo!! The quid pro quo Chinese campaign donations paid off.

12 posted on 01/23/2007 6:02:10 AM PST by Stars&StripesNE (Embarrassed to be a Massachusetts Resident)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: XR7
check here, also
13 posted on 01/23/2007 6:03:30 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Flint
We should be proud of our technology that the Clinton Administration gave to China. Our stuff works.

Sad, but true. This is something that should be thrown into candidate Clinton's face at every available opportunity.

"The Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said China was interested only in "peaceful development of outer space"

This is one bizarre and convoluted statement. How can one develop space peacefully by developing weaponry to be used there and then testing said weaponry? Too much sauce on the Peking Duck if you axe me.....

14 posted on 01/23/2007 6:06:01 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: XR7

This is a good example of what not to do. They took an action without considering the effect on others--especially the US. Many times people in a macho, bravo mood will take such an action to demonstrate their power. What they don't realize is that potential adversaries take note and steps to meet that act.


15 posted on 01/23/2007 6:06:42 AM PST by shrinkermd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: XR7
Remember?

Sure. I well recall how in connection with the 2001 Quadrennial Defense Review, SECDEF Rumsfeld began talking about shifting naval assets to the Pacific, and "greater engagement" along the Pacific Rim.

16 posted on 01/23/2007 6:08:57 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

Maybe not, but would think that it would make a big dent.


17 posted on 01/23/2007 6:12:25 AM PST by al_c
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: al_c

And the VLF band is practically immune..........but slow......


18 posted on 01/23/2007 6:23:49 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: XR7; stockpirate; stm; hodaka; Flint; Mo1
..and then came 9/11, and everyone stopped talking about China. Remember?

Wow! Uh, no.

WEB RESULTS by Ask (Showing Results 1 - 10 of 133,100) for "freerepublic" and "china" - all dates

WEB RESULTS by Ask (Showing Results 1 - 10 of 118,900) for "freerepublic" and "china" - after September 11, 2001

That unscientific survey jibes with my recollection.

With the likes of Paul Ross and those folks, they haven't stopped screaming about China and Walmart since FR's founding.

19 posted on 01/23/2007 6:25:09 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: al_c

Any general who would rely solely on satellite communications being still operable in time of actual war should be shot. That would be the enemy's first target. Our hi-tech comm systems are vulnerable to disruption. I sincerely hope that the Pentagon has in place a fall back position to the old communications systems that are very reliable. The only other method I can think of would be bouncing a laser off the moon, if it's not cloudy............


20 posted on 01/23/2007 6:29:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: sgtbono2002
" The Chinese don't do anything for no reason. They sent us a message. They know of course that we can shoot down satellites also. If we can go up and repair them we can of course remove them. This message tells us they can also shoot down the Space Shuttle and the Space station. Their reasons for this message will become apparent one day. "

The US has technology generations far advanced then what the Chinese just demonstrated.
You got to remember, what ever military or space technology the US does allow the public or our enemy to know, we got other technology to counter it.
Everyone is so worried about what Iran might have to hit us with in the Persian gulf when we go to war with them soon, but, I am not worried.
Just like Kim Gone Ills hissy fit last year during our 4 th of July, it's just China using him to see what we will do, what our tactics are, and in this incident now with the Satellite, China is trying to make us play out hand, and see what we will do, and maybe caught us off guard, and even though the official press release word is " China Caught US off Guard with testing " .... the US knew all along about this.
The worst thing that will come out of this, is that China now has the ability and is capable to hit our satellites, and create space junk.
The US has technology generations advanced than what our enemies have, but, the US won't tell you about it, and they won't tell you what we can counter them with it.
China is just trying to force our hand, and see what we will do.
21 posted on 01/23/2007 6:39:07 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: XR7

"Remember how just before 9/11 FR was abuzz about China's acts of belligerence?(Just check out the pre-9/11 FR threads and see) Remember how communist China detained the US plane crew and dismantled the plane, piece-by-piece? George W. Bush was facing one of the greatest challenges of his presidency - and then came 9/11, and everyone stopped talking about China. Remember?"




Yes I do remember. I would still like to know what GWB gave up to settle that situation. I have a feeling the chinese made out in that deal.


22 posted on 01/23/2007 7:24:36 AM PST by trtwox
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trtwox; All
Remember?

FReep China Thread - 4/6/2001
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad1552b0433.htm

4/11/2001 Should China Apologize, Yes ! Continue to Boycott ! !
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad468545eb1.htm#82


PHOTOS OF HILLARY CLINTON WITH SLAVE PROSTITUTION BOSS AND COCAINE SMUGGLER
(Illegal fundraising with Red Chinese/COSCO)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39fd0b09779a.htm

23 posted on 01/23/2007 8:41:08 AM PST by XR7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
See this:

Advanced Airborne Networking Demonstrated by Boeing, U.S. Air Force

Better than a satellite...

24 posted on 01/23/2007 9:13:26 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I saw an AWACS plane take off over my house last night. I wonder if something's up?........


25 posted on 01/23/2007 9:17:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

Headed toward Cuba?


26 posted on 01/23/2007 9:26:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

South over the gulf fer sure.......But all planes take off in that general direction from here..........


27 posted on 01/23/2007 9:27:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: XR7

Hummm

I guess they didn't really shoot anything *down*, they just blew it to pieces, leaving quite the mess in orbit.

One of the major reasons we and the USSR signed the antisat agreement.


28 posted on 01/23/2007 9:43:13 AM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ASOC

I assume it's not that difficult to shoot down a sat?
since you know exactly where it will be at any given time based on its previously observed orbital patterns?


29 posted on 01/23/2007 9:45:46 AM PST by nascarnation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: XR7; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave

30 posted on 01/23/2007 9:53:44 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Boeing, John Huang, the Chinese Embassy, and Al Gore
http://www.businessweek.com/1997/13/b3520149.htm

The name sounds innocuous enough--the Council on U.S.-China Affairs. But this now inactive group, created to improve China's image in the U.S., may provide insights into how John Huang, the Democratic fund-raiser, kept tabs on the efforts of U.S. corporations and the Chinese embassy to shape China policy. The council's role also raises questions about the use of foundations as a conduit for corporations who wanted to influence trade policy toward China.

The council was founded by Xue Haipei, a dissident who fled China after the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. Although ardently anticommunist, Xue believed that only by opening China economically would democratic reform be possible. In an ambiguous twist, the Chinese government seems to have tolerated and perhaps even assisted Xue's efforts. At the same time, Xue's organization received financial support from Boeing Co., which sees China as vital to its future.

''UPDATE.'' Case in point: A seven-page memorandum, dated Jan. 15, 1996, obtained from the Democratic National Committee files of Huang. The memo, intended to lay out details of the council's public-awareness strategy is from Xue and is addressed to Boeing and members of the Council on U.S.-China Affairs. Xue copied the memo to Huang, a former Commerce Dept. official and Lippo Group executive. Xue's note to Huang describes the attached memo as an ''update on strategies and programs I drafted for discussion with our partners, like Boeing in this case and with the Embassy.'' While the embassy is not named, another part of the document states that ''the council's China partners'' would pay for expenses incurred by congressional delegations while visiting China as part of the council's program. ,p> The document, obtained by BUSINESS WEEK, affords a glimpse at Huang's network. Former colleagues of Xue say they saw Huang at a council seminar for staffers on Capitol Hill last year. A Boeing representative also was present, according to one attendee.

A Boeing spokesman says the company never belonged to the Council on U.S.-China Affairs. But Boeing concedes it supported the group with a $10,000 grant. The aerospace giant felt a former dissident speaking out in favor of China-U.S. trade lent credibility to the cause of publicizing the benefits of closer relations with China. ''His goal meshed with our goal,'' says Boeing spokesman Tim Neale…..


31 posted on 01/23/2007 9:59:11 AM PST by XR7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation
Ducks in a barrel. And you only have to get something up "going the wrong way"(retrograde) - peanuts, ball bearings, anvils, even frozen water would work. The DeltaV yields impact energy levels almost too high to believe.

The frozen water would soon go away, but you will still be left with an orbiting junkpile.

OTOH the USAF was working on a asat weapon that would launch into a prograde orbit, sneak up on the target, attach itself to the target and drill into the vitals to put it out of commission. And no orbiting pile of trash.

The Army has not been sitting on its collective hands either

MIRACL's test-firing at an Air Force satellite last October became the fulcrum of debate on the issue of space control. While the military has officially claimed the test was designed to measure the vulnerability of U.S. satellites to laser attack, sources and documents clearly show the exercise was also designed to gauge MIRACL's potential use as an emergency anti-satellite weapon.

In fact, MIRACL has had an ASAT mission since the mid-1980s -- a mission that was never advertised, but wasn't secret, either. Last year Inside the Army obtained internal documents stating that MIRACL and its accompanying beam director have had, since their installation, a "contingency mission to negate satellites harmful to U.S. forces." In response to questions about those documents posed in August 1997, the Space and Missile Defense Command confirmed that the Army has "taken the position that the MIRACL laser . . . possesses a limited, or contingency, anti- satellite capability."

Your milage may vary.... Least the large group think the professinal military is too stupid and get caught short on this vital issue.
32 posted on 01/23/2007 10:10:24 AM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
If you want peace, prepare for war.....Julius Caesar.........

Life is a matter of perspective. Maybe the Chinese read Julius Caesar's quote and had the hawks in mind.

33 posted on 01/23/2007 11:44:58 AM PST by ponder life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson