SWAT Teams Enforcing Copyright

techliberation ^ | 1/17/07 | Tim Lee

[Centurion2000]

Without special weapons and tactic teams, our civilian equivalent of special forces, there would be anarchy.

With all due respect, this is idiocy.

Unfortunately because man can do horrible things to man, we need individuals to intervene.

You are correct; they are called armed citizens.

Do I really need to mention all of the massacres and school shootings that would have been stopped had more people carried firearms and had the will to use them?

[NorthFlaRebel]

If that was the case, it is always safer to use a swat team to enter a dangerous environment.

Common sense says it less dangerous to wait for the person in question to leave said residence/building and then approach them with uniformed or plain clothes officers rather than kicking in a door when no person is in eminent danger. Unless there is proof that a)There is an individual being held against their will and harm is eminent or b)there is proof the perp will never leave the building, there is never a reason to kick in a door to make an arrest.

[jrooney]

I am the biggest supporter of the right to bear arms and as big of a supporter of law enforcement. Anyone that fears police and the protection they provide to society has something to hide. Yes more citizens should be allowed to carry concealed firearms and use them when necessary. However, I think you are a about 150 years behind the times though.

We need laws and law enforcement and not just a bunch of armed citizens running around doing what they want. That is anarchy.

[jrooney]

Everything you posted is spot on, except if you have to enter a building, it is always safer to use swat.

[jrooney]

Okay..................................wow, you are out there.

[zeugma]

Travis,

Thanks for posting the link to the OC case. It was absolutely astounding. I try really hard not to consider the police an occupying army, but it is really difficult. 

[mugs99]

wow, you are out there.

I just asked a simple question. The same question I've been asking since 1996 when a friend died of a heart attack during a no knock swat raid on his home.
His crime?
Tomatoes looked like marijuana to an idiot in a helicopter.

I still haven't received an answer to my question...How many lives have they saved?
.

[zeugma]

A swat teams mandate is to save lives, not take them.

You mean like Fedgov's HRT that for the first couple of decades of its existance had an almost perfect record of not having a single surviving hostage?

Yeah. 

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you." 

"Of course I'll respect you in the morning."

"The check is in the mail."

[eXe]

Swat teams for a guy making mix tapes? Good lord.. I am sure glad RIAA wasnt around when I was DJing.. I sold a whole lot of mix tapes to friends. I guess it was ok because that was before the age of big brother and RIAA telling me that recording a record on tape is "Stealing"

They would have tossed me in jail after shooting me 20 or so times.

This is WAY Overkill..

[DieHard the Hunter]

There will be more to this story than meets the eye. It's typical of the media, to report only one side of the story and give it an extreme slant, then pass it thru the lunatic filter.

That's what sells copy, and as we can see, it works.

[shezza]

Anyone that fears police and the protection they provide to society has something to hide.

You're not from around here, are you?

[spunkets]

"why a SWAT team was used to raid a professional studio under investigation for a nonviolent, white-collar crime."

Odd Job could have been in that studio and took some cops head right off with a CD. That goes for raids in grammer schools too, because ya never know which kid might have leant how to use a pencil.

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

"our civilian equivalent of special forces, there would be anarchy."

So we were living in anarchy BEFORE we had SWAT teams?

What a load....

[Dead Corpse]

Sounds like a serious case of "too much faith in government". Either that, or we've ID'd a SWAT team member...

My father was on the County SWAT team back home for 12 years (27 total as a deputy). He still does armory/range instructor work for them. Says the new guys on the force are pretty much universally a completely different breed.

Fear for the future...

[TalonDJ]

Anyone that fears police and the protection they provide to society has something to hide.

Yeah that explains all the people that die when Swat teams kick in the wrong door. Yeah, those folks had nothing to be afraid of... Or did the granny that got shot a month or two ago have something to hide? Hmm... it must be one of the two because you say so.

[Eagle Eye]

Sheesh....and when there are so many teens smoking a joint in the park that need their heads bashed in.../s.

[Centurion2000]

Anyone that fears police and the protection they provide to society has something to hide. Yes

Tell it to the Branch Davidians

Tell it to Randy Weaver

We need laws and law enforcement and not just a bunch of armed citizens running around doing what they want. That is anarchy.

No, what we have right now is tyranny, murder and theft under color of law. And before you say that I'm being too reactionary or paranoid, ask yourself exactly why we have more cops than most of the world and more people in prisons than anywhere else in the world.

[KurtZ]

I live in a rural county with around 3000 residents. The local sheriff's department has a stockpile of about 20 semi-automatic rifles and they conduct SWAT training every two weeks. Our town doesn't even have traffic lights, yet the police dress up like they just got done patrolling the streets of Baghdad.

The problem I see, and what I suspect is happening around the country, is that the constant training and mere possession of these weapons is normalizing this behavior in the minds of law enforcement. People with new toys tend to want to use them, whether its a power saw or a machine gun.

[Washi]

Paging Claire Wolfe...is it time yet?

[dcwusmc]

The ONLY time me and mine might ever need a swat rescue is if I am first totally disarmed by the self same jackbooted thugs who then might want to rescue me from the situation THEY put me in to begin with. Same thing as some gov't thug breaking my leg and his gov't doctor/partner handing me a pair of crutches and telling me to be happy that gov't medicine was taking good care of me. swat teams need IMMEDIATE abolishing.