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Crying Child and Her Parents Removed From Flight
ABC NEWS ^ | January 23, 2007 | ABC News

Posted on 01/23/2007 10:26:18 AM PST by Fawn

On Jan. 14, 3-year-old Elly Kulesza and her parents, Julie and Gerald, were kicked off an AirTran Airways flight from Florida to their Worcester, Mass., home because Elly would not stop crying.

Elly, who had been a model passenger on the flight to Florida four days earlier, began to cry uncontrollably once she got on the plane, throwing a temper tantrum on the floor.

AirTran employees demanded that the Kuleszas calm down their child. When Elly didn't stop crying, the crew banned the Kuleszas from flying for 24 hours. Later, AirTran offered an apology to the family along with a refund on their tickets.

"As we have an obligation to the 112 other passengers onboard the flight to operate the flight on time," AirTran said in a statement, "we had to make an operational decision to ask the Kulesza party to deplane so the flight could depart."

Passengers Sympathetic, Unlike Crew, Parents Say

On "Good Morning America," the Kuleszas insisted that their toddler wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary.

"I don't know what happened. No one can tell when something like this is going to happen. She had a great morning, but then she got on the plane and she started to cry," Julie Kulesza said.

"She's like the typical 3-year-old. She has her moments, but overall she's a very, very good child."

The Kuleszas said that unlike the AirTran crew, the passengers on the flight were sympathetic to their situation.

"I jokingly turned around and asked the three gentlemen behind me, 'Aren't you glad you got these seats?" Julie said. "Another passenger offered up a lollipop to try and calm her down."

Despite AirTran's apology and offer of a complimentary flight, the Kuleszas don't plan to fly with the airline anytime soon.

"We'll pass on that," Gerald Kulesza said. "After that, I told them I'd never fly with them again." PAGE 2 CONTINUED AT SITE


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: fly; getoff; insanity; loons; nuisance
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Gerald Kulesza said. "After that, I told them I'd never fly with them again."

Good. FLY AIRTRAN AIRWAYS!!!

1 posted on 01/23/2007 10:26:27 AM PST by Fawn
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To: All

Don't forget to vote while you're there.


2 posted on 01/23/2007 10:27:36 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: Fawn

This must be the child that sits by me on every single flight I take.


3 posted on 01/23/2007 10:27:43 AM PST by RushCrush (God Bless our fine military! Thank you for your service! We are forever indebted to you!)
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To: Fawn
redundant

(about ten seconds aead of you)

4 posted on 01/23/2007 10:27:44 AM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: Fawn

Kaching.


5 posted on 01/23/2007 10:27:47 AM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Fawn

Unless you have kids........


6 posted on 01/23/2007 10:27:53 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Fawn

This story is a good reminder of why spankings are a good thing when warranted.

Having said that, some of our rabid liberals in California are trying to outlaw spankings.


7 posted on 01/23/2007 10:30:06 AM PST by passionfruit
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To: presidio9

Thanks for the hit. ;)


8 posted on 01/23/2007 10:30:07 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: Fawn
Smart child, I would scream if being taken from Florida to the commie state of Massachusetts.
9 posted on 01/23/2007 10:30:18 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: passionfruit

THey should consider making one of the bathrooms soundproof for episodes like this.


10 posted on 01/23/2007 10:31:18 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: Fawn

Uh... one thing to cry, another to be throwing a temper tantrum in the isle. Kid should have been strapped into an air rated safety seat anyway...

I would not have appologized...put them on another flight after the child had calmed down sure, but no way should AIRTRANS be SORRY for respecting the 100+ other customers on that flight.

And for the record, no not all 3 year olds throw public uncontrollable temper tantrums... Many know that one look from mom or dad means cut it out right now, or painful sitting will be taking place for a while to come.


11 posted on 01/23/2007 10:31:27 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Danae

Bottom Line 1:

Parents need to do what they can to shut screaming kids up on flights. Nobody wants to hear that.

Bottom Line 2:

Sometimes kids cry no matter what. Cut parents a break who make an obvious effort to solve the problem, blame those who don't.


12 posted on 01/23/2007 10:31:47 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Danae

I have kids, and I would not act like these people

A) I would not expect the airline to pander to my spoiled child.

B) I would be mortified by my childs behavior and would not ask for or expect an apology from the airline.

C) My child behaved like that, they would have been given good reason to cry.

This.. they are only three, its normal behavior is a crock of crap. By 3 they behave the way they know they can get away with.


13 posted on 01/23/2007 10:33:46 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Maybe the planes should start carrying these?


14 posted on 01/23/2007 10:33:52 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: Fawn

Looks like I know I will be buying another ATA ticket to Chicago.


15 posted on 01/23/2007 10:34:30 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: HamiltonJay

A good smack on the a$$ always put me in my place.


16 posted on 01/23/2007 10:36:21 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: RockinRight

Agreed infants and toddlerscan cry uncontrollably and there is nothing you can do to console them.. usually because you have no idea why they are crying... (pain, ears popping, scared of the loud noises of the engines, etc etc etc)

But unless this child was mentally slow, by age 3 they can communicate, and know what they can and cannot get away with. Throwing themselves on the ground and having a temper tantrum IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR! Its LEARNED BEHAVIOR... they do it because they know they can get away with it.

I don't think the airline should be apologizing for doing the right thing. As long as they offered them an alternate flight later, which they did, the parents should be sitting down, shutting up and re-evaluating their parental skills.


17 posted on 01/23/2007 10:37:19 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: passionfruit
This story is a good reminder of why spankings are a good thing when warranted. yesterdays thread indicated she had an ear infection. If my child had an ear infection which would be hell if you are on a plane, I don't think I would spank the child.
18 posted on 01/23/2007 10:37:21 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: HamiltonJay

Agreed. That was my point but perhaps not well articulated.


19 posted on 01/23/2007 10:38:02 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Long Island Pete

"If you are going to cry, I'll give you a reason to cry." - Dad.


20 posted on 01/23/2007 10:38:31 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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