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"Listen more" is world's message to US
BBC News ^ | 23 January 2007

Posted on 01/23/2007 11:43:43 AM PST by lizol

'Listen more' is world's message to US

A BBC international opinion poll suggests there is widespread disquiet about the United States' role in Iraq and its other foreign policy priorities. The BBC's Jonathan Marcus analyses the results.

The Bush administration's toppling of Saddam Hussein has had several profound and unintended consequences.

One has been the way in which the destruction of both the Taleban regime in Afghanistan, and of Iraq's military machine, have opened the way for the rise of Iran as a major regional player.

Another crucial but less tangible problem - as this opinion poll commissioned by the BBC World Service indicates - is that the US's image around the world is being seriously damaged by the chaos in Iraq.

And if that was not bad enough, it suggests that America's image problems are only getting worse.

The global image of the US has significantly deteriorated over the past 12 months, as the chaos in Iraq has deepened. And in 18 of the countries that were involved in previous polls, the slide in America's standing has steepened.

Anti-Americanism rising

Overall, this new opinion poll sampled the views of 26,000 people in 25 countries.

Three in every four of those questioned disapproved of how the US government was dealing with the crisis in Iraq.

The poll did not just deal with Iraq. It also asked questions about the US handling of Guantanamo detainees; the Israel-Hezbollah war; Iran's nuclear programme; global warming; and North Korea's nuclear programme.

In every case, a majority of those questioned disapproved of America's handling of the issue concerned.

This poll underscores conclusions drawn from several other surveys - that anti-Americanism is on the rise, and the more the US flexes its hard power - the more it deploys troops abroad or talks tough diplomatically - the more it seems to weaken its ability to influence the world.

Maybe Washington will bounce back. America's image improved markedly in the post-Vietnam era.

But then there was still the Cold War to keep America's allies on-side.

What is striking in this survey is how negatively the US is seen across a range of diverse countries. Indeed the same policies are, in many cases, even unpopular in the US itself.

This, then, raises an obvious question. Is it simply the Bush administration's foreign policy or the whole image of America that is unpopular?

Comparable surveys suggest that there is still strong support around the world for the values enshrined in US society. But it looks as though America itself is seen to be living up to those values less and less.

As a result, America's soft power - its ability to influence people in other countries by the force of example and by the perceived legitimacy of its policies - is weakening.

And in a turbulent, globalising world, where the US - rightly or wrongly - is associated by many with the disruptive effects of globalisation, soft power matters more than ever. It is a resource that once squandered is very difficult to build-up again.

Complex issues

At root is the problem of legitimacy.

Iraq may have dented the utility of America's military machine. But the US remains the world's only superpower in an international system that shows few of the familiar landmarks we have come to associate with the past 50-or-so years of international diplomacy.

Opinion polls, by their very nature, are a snap-shot. They ask very particular questions and they need to be interpreted with caution.

Asking, as this survey does, about the participants' opinion of the US government's handling of, say, Iran's nuclear programme, provokes strong levels of disapproval.

But what does this really mean? Is there any constituency at all for getting tough with Iran? How far is Iran's nuclear programme perceived as being a problem at all?

Other opinion polls, asking different questions, suggest that ordinary people in many of America's allies are indeed worried by the suggestion that Iran might acquire nuclear weapons.

It is the Bush administration's handling of the issue that is reflected in this BBC poll; not the policy options themselves. These are complex. They depend upon often unavailable intelligence and uncertain assessments of what the Iranian authorities are really about.

Opinion polls are not terribly useful then in charting specific policy options.

Graphic showing how US influence is perceived But they do capture a mood and that mood should worry anyone in policy-making circles in Washington DC.

The US undoubtedly has an "image-problem", and there are worrying signs that this is having an impact upon the administration's ability to get the policy outcomes that it wants.

One of the wisest writers on these issues is Joseph S Nye, now Dean of the John F Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. He is in many ways "Mr Soft Power", having written and theorised about the phenomenon for many years.

He has long-argued that Americans need to better understand how their policies appear to others.

"To communicate effectively," he has written, "Americans must first learn to listen."

This opinion poll, then, represents a powerful argument for those seeking to make the case that Washington should listen more and try to win over its friends as much by persuasion and force of example as by firm actions and tough rhetoric.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: huh; notlistening; poll; publicopinion; sayittothehand; talktothehand
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1 posted on 01/23/2007 11:43:44 AM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

Al Gator to all the idiots in the EU poll:



BITE ME!

And I HOPE you DON'T LIKE IT!

Now, pay us back the loans from the Marshall plan, and I MIGHT listen to you a little. (not!)


2 posted on 01/23/2007 11:46:02 AM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: lizol

U.S. to the world: "Talk to the hand."


3 posted on 01/23/2007 11:46:21 AM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: lizol
"Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!"
4 posted on 01/23/2007 11:46:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: lizol

U.S. message to the world: "Open your eyes!"


5 posted on 01/23/2007 11:46:48 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: lizol

"Get with the program/do more" is USA's message to world.


6 posted on 01/23/2007 11:47:04 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Al Gator

Ditto


7 posted on 01/23/2007 11:47:21 AM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: Al Gator
Same exact request is made of an outside visitor in a room full of babbling idiots.
8 posted on 01/23/2007 11:47:46 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: lizol

Does listen more really mean - Do what I want you to do, don't do what you want to do.


9 posted on 01/23/2007 11:47:57 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: lizol

Listen to what,"Death to America" as if that should be accompanied by some moderating debate?


10 posted on 01/23/2007 11:48:07 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: lizol

The Beeb gleefully reporting the results of its own hate America campaign. Take it with a bucket of salt.


11 posted on 01/23/2007 11:48:13 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How about "Listen more and Keep Your Money"!


12 posted on 01/23/2007 11:49:07 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: lizol
What does the rest of the world wants us to do? Surrender?


13 posted on 01/23/2007 11:49:16 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: lizol
"Anti-Americanism rising"

This American's concern... waning!!!

14 posted on 01/23/2007 11:49:35 AM PST by SierraWasp (Just another CA conservative floundering in the darkness of Schwartzeneggerism!!! HELP!!!)
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To: lizol

The worlds real message to the US...

"We hate you, unless we need something from you and we will still hate you if we don't get it.......not mention we will go back to hating you once we get what we want and don't need you anymore"


15 posted on 01/23/2007 11:49:39 AM PST by Dreagon
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To: Al Gator

FU to the EU.


16 posted on 01/23/2007 11:49:43 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: lizol

But the world isn't listening to Al Qaeda.


17 posted on 01/23/2007 11:49:59 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Dreagon

"We hate you but we love your money."


18 posted on 01/23/2007 11:50:05 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: lizol

They didn't say "please."


19 posted on 01/23/2007 11:50:21 AM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: lizol

US Reply.......Drain your own weak swamps, handle your own security, even if attacked, and get your own pathetically weak houses in order. After you do all of that, you can criticise and maybe we might listen.


20 posted on 01/23/2007 11:50:38 AM PST by indylindy (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Billthedrill

But they are whistling past the graveyard if we actually disengaged from trying to maintain order and security around the world.


21 posted on 01/23/2007 11:50:39 AM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: Dreagon
"We hate you, unless we need something from you and we will still hate you if we don't get it.......not mention we will go back to hating you once we get what we want and don't need you anymore"

The world is filled with sulking teenagers. ;)

22 posted on 01/23/2007 11:50:54 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: dfwgator

"FU to the EU."


Man of few words.

I like it.


23 posted on 01/23/2007 11:50:59 AM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: lizol

"listen" is dummie for obey.


24 posted on 01/23/2007 11:51:00 AM PST by spunkets
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To: lizol
What's that damn noise I hear all over the UK & EU?
25 posted on 01/23/2007 11:51:28 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: lizol

America to World: Blow me.


26 posted on 01/23/2007 11:52:24 AM PST by Spruce
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To: lizol

Why should an American give a flying F- what a bunch of jagoffs from another country think?

Do you think someone from The Netherlands cares what someone from Uzbekestan thinks?

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.


27 posted on 01/23/2007 11:52:27 AM PST by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: lizol
Dear World,

Guess which finger I'm holding up?

28 posted on 01/23/2007 11:52:29 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: lizol
Maybe we'd listen more if everyone else would just SHUT UP!
29 posted on 01/23/2007 11:53:01 AM PST by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: Al Gator
Yeah let's see if I understand this poll correctly....our military has toppled two regimes so our military strength is now in question....because we took out the Taliban and Sadaam, Iran now has too much influence in the region, so I guess leaving two muderous, totalitarian regimes in place is OK as long as Iran is in check. Then too I wonder what these same Euroweenis see as the solution, if Iraq, Afghaniastan and Iran were just left alone, would Europe be that much safer.

Please Euroweenies, when you have your own defenses intact without relying 80% on our protection and you can get your economies over a 1% growth rate and your muslim populations stop rioting and blowing you all up....give us a call, maybe then we'll care about what your opinion is. Until then how about you STFU!

30 posted on 01/23/2007 11:54:28 AM PST by marlon
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To: lizol

Dear World: too bad. I did not see you helping with one major disaster that we have faced, I do not see you wanting to respect the sovereignty of our borders, our culture and our traditions. So, what we should do - instead of listening - IS CUT OF FUNDING TO EVERY FREAKING ONE OF YOU!
You've been heard - no go back to whatever cave you crawled out of.


31 posted on 01/23/2007 11:54:52 AM PST by rayincolorado
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To: marlon

Well, don't you know, the only problem with the Maginot line was, it wasn't long enough!

French politicians have such great ideas!!


32 posted on 01/23/2007 11:58:32 AM PST by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: lizol

" The Bush administration's toppling of Saddam Hussein has had several profound and unintended consequences. "

As if it wasn't worth it.

" Is it simply the Bush administration's foreign policy or the whole image of America that is unpopular? "

Image; jealousy.


33 posted on 01/23/2007 11:58:52 AM PST by Son House
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To: lizol
"Listen more" is world's message to US, lizol wrote:

Hey, world. Listen to this: ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

34 posted on 01/23/2007 12:00:05 PM PST by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democrat Party". - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: lizol
Americans must first learn to listen."

We need the Carrot and stick appproach.

If you cooperate in doing the right thing, you can chew the carrot.

If not, chew the stick.

35 posted on 01/23/2007 12:00:06 PM PST by Edit35
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To: lizol

DONT TREAD ON ME: U.S. MESSAGE TO THE WORLD!


36 posted on 01/23/2007 12:04:15 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Enterprise

Perfect answer! LOL!


37 posted on 01/23/2007 12:07:29 PM PST by ShandaLear (Perfect People Need Support, too.)
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To: lizol

We have listened to this kind of idiocy for years, and that is essentally the problem: we have a political party now regaining power, determined to adopt the agenda of America's most implacable enemies... in the spirit of and for the sake of "International Opinon". The utter idiocy and total lack of substance that this article represents will doom us to Europe's fate if we heed this bilge.


38 posted on 01/23/2007 12:10:36 PM PST by Richard Axtell
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To: lizol
Listen to the EU panty-waist faction? That'd be a lot like listening to a turd floating in my toilet.
39 posted on 01/23/2007 12:11:25 PM PST by Last Laugh (We the People are in charge, so let's act like it!)
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To: lizol

U.S message to the world: "Get your head out of your ass!"


40 posted on 01/23/2007 12:12:23 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: lizol

Maybe all the idiot weasels in the world who want to appease and/or ignore the rise of rabid murerous Islamo-fascism are the ones who ought to start listening to those of us who can see the threat!

In the 1930s Winston Churchill stood in much more lonely company warning of the rise of fascism and the grave dangers posed by Hitler's Germany..... in those days the same kind of appeasers and whiners mocked Churchill, said he was charging windmills, etc.

My only concern is that the USA is not being tough enough, not killing enough Islamo-fascists wherever we can find them. The whiners should just get with the program or STFU.


41 posted on 01/23/2007 12:13:48 PM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: lizol
Overall, this new opinion poll sampled the views of 26,000 people in 25 countries.

Doesn't seem to be exactly a representative sample to me.

42 posted on 01/23/2007 12:21:54 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Growing old isn't so bad, especially when you consider the alternative!)
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To: lizol

We will in another 20 months. Until then we are going to do our worst. To Iran's nuclear ambitions. Get use to it. Heck I imagine our leadership is fine with a nice lady putting on the happy face for the world after we do what has to be done. And she'll turn into an iron byotch as soon as the first suicider goes off in the USA. Politics will demand it.


43 posted on 01/23/2007 12:22:10 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: lizol
US message to world:


44 posted on 01/23/2007 12:28:53 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

"Open your eyes" & your wallet


45 posted on 01/23/2007 12:30:30 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: lizol

We show others what cowards they are; they hate us because

we show them who they are/aren't.


46 posted on 01/23/2007 12:41:18 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: lizol

Never take the advice of those that have your detriment in their hearts.


47 posted on 01/23/2007 12:42:15 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: lizol
Listen more? To what? More politically correct multi-culti garbage? NOT BLOODY LIKELY!
48 posted on 01/23/2007 12:44:59 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: lizol

Hey BBC, listen to this! (Insert fart noise)


49 posted on 01/23/2007 12:46:46 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: A_perfect_lady
Guess which finger I'm holding up?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lets see now, give me a hint, is it on the right hand or left hand?

50 posted on 01/23/2007 12:50:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Dear Santa: Next year, READ THE STUPID LIST! Oh, and thanks for the socks....)
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