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Ford May Report Worst Loss in History
ap ^ | 1/24/07 | Tom Krisher, AP Business Writer

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:37:16 PM PST by Flavius

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To: martin_fierro

LOL! Fine. You don't mind if it get's scratched up and muddy do ya? Let's go for a ride.


61 posted on 01/24/2007 7:46:35 PM PST by spunkets
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To: martin_fierro

She's a beaut.


62 posted on 01/24/2007 7:47:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here)
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To: 38special

"Why they can't be profitable with their truck line and the legendary Mustang is beyond me."

One of the big answers to your question about the trucks is the 6.0L Power-puke diesel engine. The thing is a piece of garbage from International. Between 2003 and last year Ford was paying out HUGE sums of $$$ replacing engins and Lemon-Lawing tons of the "Super Duty" trucks.
Ford lost a lot of loyal customer because of this junk engine ... now look at their new 6.4L Power-joke engine from International (twin turbo, have to remove the entire cab to work on the engine). This new engine too will turn into a nightmare.

Go CUMMINS DIESEL POWER!!!!!


63 posted on 01/24/2007 7:56:35 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDeuce = John Browning's gift to freedom))
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To: SmoothTalker

The older Fjs were expensive, but fine. The newer ones are too expensive and prissy. They're for suburban mom's. The t100 is too underpowered and couldn't compete with F150s and Rams. GMs trucks are junk. The toughness of an American truck like an Fseries, just depends on the options.


65 posted on 01/24/2007 8:03:39 PM PST by spunkets
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To: nomadicone

nothing,

well nothing for GM and Ford upper management which is cool

recently there was an attempt to dump health care (not sure on pensions) onto the Joe Sixpack taxpayer via them marching onto the hill

hence by declaring bankruptcy, the big 3 can get rid of their albatross aka union dues health care(via gov provided universal care) and pensions(not sure how they cash out of those probably bankruptcy deal)

and the new ceos get a clean sleet to continue to destroy whatever emerges from chp 13 7 or some other odd number

so you pay thats the end result


66 posted on 01/24/2007 8:05:20 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius
My Hyundai came with a 100,000 mile drive train warranty and it was cheaper than anything the big 3 had to offer. 70,000 miles later I've had no problems.
I had a '72 Ford Mach I, a '67 Malibu, 90 Chrysler LeBaron and 2 dodge vans '76 and '82.
Neither of them did as well after 70K miles as the Hyundai.
68 posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:23 PM PST by The Brush
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To: spunkets

"The t100 is too underpowered and couldn't compete with F150s and Rams."

In terms of power and maximum capability no but those things ran forever. Something you could never say about a Ram. If Toyota can put out a truck that combines reliability with the power of a big American truck, i'd buy it in a heart beat.


69 posted on 01/24/2007 8:27:42 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
Ford drove away generations of loyal customers by putting out cars that didn't drive as well and were less reliable than the Japanese. Now those costumers are loyal to brands like Honda and Toyota. In order to win them back, Ford has to put out cars in mainstream segments that aren't just as good as Hondas and Toyota but better.

Worth repeating. You certainly nailed by car buying profile. My last Ford was a 1980 Fiesta. The last 20 years its been 3 Hondas.

70 posted on 01/24/2007 8:33:40 PM PST by PGalt
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To: spunkets

GM's trucks are junk, eh?

I've got a '98 K2500 (8 bolt wheels) that I've used extensively offroad in the Utah deserts. I've lost count of the Ford and Jeep products I've had to tow out. LOL!


71 posted on 01/24/2007 8:40:24 PM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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To: Seruzawa

I think that's a HD truck with floating axles. It's not too bad, but I would prefer Ford's version for that year. It's a matter of historical statistical reliability. I don't go by anecdotal stories. I was referring to their lighter duty trucks mostly.


72 posted on 01/24/2007 9:24:31 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

But under just about every consumer survey there is, Nissan falls behind Ford in this regard.

And in JD Power, Mercury beats out Toyota, Honda, and Acura (but not Lexus) for reliability...

I'll bet you're right is that is the reason used, but its more perception than it is fact.


73 posted on 01/25/2007 4:26:53 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

AFA's boycotts are completely ineffective..... even in this case....


74 posted on 01/25/2007 4:28:20 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

AFA's boycotts are completely ineffective..... even in this case....


75 posted on 01/25/2007 4:28:20 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: Panzerlied

Cute...

I'm about to take my 10 year old Taurus to the shop for the second time EVER for a repair. Outer tie rod end = $20 for parts, $30 for labor, and $65 for an alignment.

The first repair was even cheaper.


76 posted on 01/25/2007 4:32:38 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: PGalt

Fair enough - but judging modern Fords based on one built 27 years ago isn't exactly fair.

Buy what you want, of course. :)


77 posted on 01/25/2007 4:34:54 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: spunkets

If you are referring to the 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser, you are way off base. One of the reasons I am buying one is that it is a hard-core off-road vehicle. Try doing a little research before you spout off.


78 posted on 01/25/2007 5:47:09 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: eraser2005

Needed something beefier than the 1980 Fiesta for 2nd car with young kids and still wanted great gas mileage (was driving 47 miles to work 1 way in the Fiesta and it's miles were over 180,000 and things were breaking down...ended up selling it to Betty Bone for $100...the kids still laugh about that...her name on the check).

Got a 1987 Accord...got in a head on collision a couple of years later (low speed) with the family on board and everyone survived (wife had fractured sternum)..car totalled. Bought another Honda Accord and drove it for 296,000 miles then donated it to charity. Have my 3rd Honda now, a Civic with over 260,000 miles.

After my wife's 1978 Chevy Malibu, she has been all Toyota since then.

My grown son and his family have a Honda.

My other son has a Chevy Malibu.

My daughter has a Toyota Scion.

My Ford Fiesta was built in Germany. Our 78 Malibu was built in Canada. The 2 Accords we had were built in Marysville, Ohio.

The Honda has been a great car for me. I probably wouldn't consider buying anything else...(why take a chance?...why fix something that isn't broke attitude).


79 posted on 01/25/2007 5:54:41 AM PST by PGalt
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To: eraser2005

Speaking of your Taurus, I think some of Ford's problem is in dropping a line like that with built in market share (it was at or near the #1 selling sedan in America for a couple of years). It was an outrageous decision! Ford drops the Mustang (wildly popular...built in market share) and then brings it back years later. Insteading of improving on popular vehicles, they shoot themselves in the foot.


80 posted on 01/25/2007 6:02:46 AM PST by PGalt
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