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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative -- And an electable one, at that.
City Journal ^ | Winter, 07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:53:08 PM PST by Sunsong

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

"I am very principled if we lose this election, we lose the country. It is just that principled."

If Rudy wins, we lose.

If Hillary wins, we lose.

Either way, we lose.


261 posted on 01/24/2007 8:17:56 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pro-choice.
Abortions in NYC declined under Rudy's watch


Not an issue unless you can tell us how Guiliani made this happen. He has supported partial birth abortion which makes him not just liberal but vile.


262 posted on 01/24/2007 8:18:37 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: IslandJeff
"Ever work on a campaign? "

Ever read the party platform?

Or is that kind of "issue advocacy" beneath the savvy political operator of the 21st century?
263 posted on 01/24/2007 8:19:10 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Sunsong

We here,out West, like our presidents to have the strong character of a Teddy Roosevelt, John Wayne or a Ronald Reagan with a sense strong morals. We won't vote for lisping/ philandering sissy men!


264 posted on 01/24/2007 8:19:12 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

And your glass is and always has been half full.....


265 posted on 01/24/2007 8:19:38 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: Minutemen

"We won't vote for lisping/ philandering sissy men!"

Rudy is someone Hillary could actually try to run to the right of....

He actually thinks Ginsburg is a good USSC Justice!


266 posted on 01/24/2007 8:20:18 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I am very principled if we lose this election, we lose the country. It is just that principled.

That wasn't what you said, However if it means voting for twinkle toes(rudy) it's not going to happen.

267 posted on 01/24/2007 8:20:38 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
If Rudy wins, we lose.

If Hillary wins, we lose.

That you can't see the difference undermines all of your criticism.

268 posted on 01/24/2007 8:20:43 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: PhiKapMom

Hi there. How are the contenders doing? Whose winning the boxing match on this thread? Every way, every day, it is a new Mitt or Rudy thread on this site! The same show seven days a week. Ain't it grand?


269 posted on 01/24/2007 8:20:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I have always said that in elections "losing is not an option" and I believe it more in 2008 then I did when Pres Reagan ran in 1980. We (Republicans) could not afford to let the DemocRATs take the WH in 1980 and I don't think we can afford to let it happen in 2008 because the consequences will be worse because we have been attacked by terrorist on our own soil and we cannot look like appeasers or it is going to happen here again.


270 posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

dude the guy isn't going to run as a liberal


Oh, he's going to act moderate until he gets the nomination. I feel so relieved.


271 posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:52 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

"And your glass is and always has been half full....."

Pulling the lever for a guy diammetrically opposite of my political beliefs as a conservative on effectively EVERY ISSUE helps how?

That glass is empty and bone dry.


272 posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:57 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: IslandJeff
>>>>>Ever work on a campaign? You know, stuff probably beneath your enlightened opinion like doorbelling, canvassing, um, donating...?

Sure have. So stuff that BS! Started with the Young Republicans club in 1968.... Nixon was the man. Reagan three times, 76, 80 and 84. Even pounded the pavement for Bush43 in 2000. Since Reagan I stick to supporting, promoting and voting for conservative Republicans. Not liberals like Giuliani. That's your speed.

273 posted on 01/24/2007 8:23:13 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Dolphy

"That you can't see the difference undermines all of your criticism."

That you do see a difference between two "we must take things away from you for the common good" liberal tyrants is puzzling.

Your support of Rudy will see Hillary elected. If you support Rudy's politics, then you're pretty much on the same page with Hillary anyway. He is. I believe he's enen said so!


274 posted on 01/24/2007 8:23:47 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Blackirish

I'm happy too....but the odds of him being the next POTUS are ...the same as his poll ratings ..somewhere between 1% and zero.


Sounds like he's just ahead of Rudy then.


275 posted on 01/24/2007 8:23:50 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
savvy political operator of the 21st century

I try. What say you?
276 posted on 01/24/2007 8:23:58 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: Dreagon
"It's amazing how people are trying to sell us on this guy."

The very idea Guilianni is a conservative is utterly without merit and laughable.

277 posted on 01/24/2007 8:25:09 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; All
Here's the thing: A lot of these people who hate Rudy, McCain, or Romney tend to be part of the fringe. They may call themselves conservative, but what they really are is frustrated third-party types who are desperate to get "Their guy" on the ballot. I honestly think that's what all the hot air over the likes of Tancredo, Brownback and all the other nowhere men is all about.

To win a Presidential election you have to have widespread, mainstream appeal. Giuliani has that in spades.

The issue will still be who can best lead the fight against our enemies in the war on terror, not who the best one-issue wonder or fundamentalist nannystater is. It's that simple.

278 posted on 01/24/2007 8:25:19 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: IslandJeff

"I try. What say you?"

So, you don't care about issues. You just care about party. I've lobbied and donated, but only to conservatives and conservative causes.

It's not about my "team" winning and all the parties. It's about issues.


279 posted on 01/24/2007 8:25:22 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: ASA Vet
I have now. Good-to-go. Thanks. I can sign off...

for now.

280 posted on 01/24/2007 8:25:59 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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