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Antievolution bill in Mississippi
NCSE ^ | January 24, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/25/2007 10:25:54 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger

Mississippi's House Bill 625, introduced by Representative Mike Lott (R-District 104) on January 9, 2007, and referred to the House Committee on Education, would provide, if enacted, "The school board of a school district may allow the teaching of creationism or intelligent design in the schools within the district. However, if the theory of evolution is required to be taught as part of the school district's science curriculum, in order to provide students with a comprehensive education in science, the school board also must include the teaching of creationism or intelligent design in the science curriculum."

A similar provision was part of 2005's House Bill 953, of which Lott was the chief sponsor; HB 953 died in committee on January 31, 2006.


TOPICS: Extended News; Philosophy; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; darwinismsnotscience; evolution; idjunkscience; idlosesagain; intelligentdesign; yecapologetics
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This is a news thread about proposed state legislation affecting an issue of a political, scientific and religious nature.

Let's please not turn it into another flamefest.

1 posted on 01/25/2007 10:25:56 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger
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2 posted on 01/25/2007 10:26:13 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Wellllllll! Guess it's not about the economy anymore, is it? Stupid?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"Let's please not turn it into another flamefest."

then you shouldnt even post it....now it is a one way street here and you know it. if an evo flames a creo...they get 'moderated'...but the inverse is not true.


3 posted on 01/25/2007 10:29:16 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"don't ever change!" :)


4 posted on 01/25/2007 10:30:24 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

You mean if someone wants to evolve, they will have to go to Alabama to do it?


5 posted on 01/25/2007 10:31:09 AM PST by Utahrd
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To: DaveLoneRanger
In that vein, as evolution is wholly compatible with Christianity and other major faiths, let evolution be taught as science, and creation be taught as religion.
6 posted on 01/25/2007 10:31:17 AM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; somniferum; flying Elvis; MagnoliaMS; MississippiMan; vetvetdoug; NerdDad; ...

Mississippi ping


7 posted on 01/25/2007 10:32:46 AM PST by WKB (A wasted day is a day in which we have not laughed!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

If schools were to be secular, they should remove all teaching about origins.


8 posted on 01/25/2007 10:36:33 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: Vaquero

My job is to post news and engage in rational debate from the creationist perspective. If you have an issue with the way the moderators conduct their job, you should take it up with them.


9 posted on 01/25/2007 10:39:21 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Wellllllll! Guess it's not about the economy anymore, is it? Stupid?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

My job is to post news and engage in rational debate from the creationist perspective.






How does it pay?


10 posted on 01/25/2007 10:40:40 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Right...whatever you say.


11 posted on 01/25/2007 10:41:21 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The bill doesn't sound "antievolution" to me. You'd think a scientific organization would use more sound logical reasoning in it's arguments. Presenting a different view in addition to requiring teaching evolution is hardly antievolution.
12 posted on 01/25/2007 10:41:25 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"...if the theory of evolution is required to be taught as part of the school district's science curriculum, in order to provide students with a comprehensive education in science, the school board also must include the teaching of creationism or intelligent design in the science curriculum.""

I think that's fair. When I was in Gubmit school, the only thing ever taught pertaining to the origin of life was evolution...there was never an alternate presented.


13 posted on 01/25/2007 10:43:22 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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So long as evolution is taught as theory and not established fact, I have no problem with it. I don't even see the need to push alternate theories on the students.

But at its basic definition, if a Christian believes God played any role in the creation of the universe, (s)he is a creationist. If God came out of the same "Big Bang", then that is an alternate theory.

I find a dangerously slippy slope in teaching evolution as fact. It is how we arrive at teachers pushing man-made global warming scares on children as indisputable fact (see recent outrage with the Weather Channel and with schools screening An Inconvenient Truth). It is how we arrive at schools teaching homosexuality as a normal genetic variation. It is how we arrive at schools teaching that abortion is not immoral because a fetus is not alive.


14 posted on 01/25/2007 10:43:28 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: weegee

"I find a dangerously slippy slope in teaching evolution as fact. It is how we arrive at teachers pushing man-made global warming scares on children as indisputable fact (see recent outrage with the Weather Channel and with schools screening An Inconvenient Truth). It is how we arrive at schools teaching homosexuality as a normal genetic variation. It is how we arrive at schools teaching that abortion is not immoral because a fetus is not alive."

Good post.


15 posted on 01/25/2007 10:45:54 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: untrained skeptic
Presenting a different view in addition to requiring teaching evolution is hardly antievolution.

Pretending that pseudoscience is somehow equivalent is demeaning to real science.

16 posted on 01/25/2007 10:50:18 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Completely unconstitutional. But undoubtedly Mississippians are tired of being thought of as evolutionary throwbacks.

Disclosure: I once lived in Starkville.

17 posted on 01/25/2007 10:50:44 AM PST by megatherium
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To: DaveLoneRanger

We all know that this legislation will in all probability die before it ever even makes it to a vote, and in the incredibly unlikely case that it does somehow get passed it will be immediately challenged as being unconstitutional and the courts will agree. This guy is wasting time and money.


18 posted on 01/25/2007 10:51:01 AM PST by 49th (This space for rent.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Where does Mississippi rank in terms of education?

Anyone?


19 posted on 01/25/2007 10:52:31 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Vaquero

You own the public skools, isn't that enough?


20 posted on 01/25/2007 10:53:55 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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