Skip to comments.Why Bush Justice rolled over for Sandy Berger
Posted on 01/25/2007 10:58:20 AM PST by windchime
As I watched these events unfold two years ago, I presumed that the Bush DOJ chose not to exploit these stories for reasons of national security. Although seemingly unrelated, both of these stories lead to the same larger secret, a secret that Berger risked his career to conceal, a secret that if revealed had the potential to destabilize the nation during a time of war.
As I have since learned, however, the Bush White House is not fully in control of its own Justice Department and FBI. In truth, the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation.
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It's called "Greymail".
It was first used back in the early 1980s, IIRC, as part of a criminal's defense. He threatened to defend himself on the stand by revealing certain goobermint secrets.
The courts ruled that a defendant could not publically expose confidential material in public, so closed trials were ordered and the transcripts edited or sealed.
Why I Never Should Have Had Sandy Berger on 'The Big Story'
foxnews.com ^ | 12/21/06 | John Gibson
Sandy Berger: What Did He Take and Why Did He Take It?(Sandy Burglar) Real Clear Politics ^ | January 15, 2007 | Ronald A. Cass
Washington needs to be renamed, Washingtoon, CYA.
And why hasn't Bergler been indicted??? Why should a Rat get preferential treatment???
It is BS about secrets being protected. The NY Times seems to have the ability to access any secret that makes Bush look bad. So why is it that other so called secrets involving the DemoRat operatives get a free pass???
Something is pretty stinky here.
Thanks for the term, 'Greymail'.
It looks like there are ways to get to Berger without jeopardizing confidential material. Check out the video.
And Berger and the Clintons have large ones to cover.
It's called the U.S. Government. Especially the Clinton appointed part of it (though I can't but help notice that Bush IS the President of the United States now, and could probably get this taken care of, if he wanted to).
Cashill's articles have some interesting theories.
I'm sure all will be revealed when they are all dead. I hope to be alive to hear it.
GWB and his administration need to have more of a mean streak, IMO.
You can bet the current president and members of his administration will have to deal with a lot of persecution and vindictive acts if a Dem wins the presidency in '08.
What would the new charges be?
As I understand it, he's already been tried, convicted, and sentenced. I'm not an atty, but I don't think he can be re-charged or re-sentenced - unless it was something new.
This whole thing really stinks and he'll be back in for Klintoon in '08.
It is BS about secrets being protected. The NY Times seems to have the ability to access any secret that makes Bush look bad. So why is it that other so called secrets involving the DemoRat operatives get a free pass???And why is Bush going along with this? Somewhat like the Palestinians, Bush never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
As the media would like us to believe, he has been tried and convicted. But I don't recall any court appearances related to stealing classified documents, which is the crime in question here.
The concealment of classified documents in ones pants and the removal from the archives is strictly prohibited under law, regardless of careless intent.
Republicans are always much more concerned to protect Democrats afflicted by scandals than they are worried about protecting Republicans.
Bush continues to play this "more civil tone" crap while the Dem-seditionists throw more and more mud in his face, and are nearly ready to launch impeachment.
He should have gone after the NYTimes for leaks, even if there was no reasonable chance of conviction.
And he should have hit back HARD at these race baiting Democrats following the Hurricane Katrina devastation. SCREW THIS "FEMA WAS TO BLAME" bullcrap.
FEMA did as well as possible under the circumstances. It was the thieving Mayor Nagin and the ghetto attitudes which caused 95-percent of the problems in New Orleans.
Notice the other areas in Louisana and Fla. fared much better and are well on their way to full recovery.
Bush should have set a tone three years ago that the US was not gonna sit idly by while seditionist newspapers did the legwork for alQaeda types.
And he should have charged Berger.
And he should STILL specifically name and counter these hatemonger Democrat politicians who accuse him of lying, or worse.
For heavens sake, STOP BEING A WIMP, Mr. President!!!
Bush came into office with a Cowboy image, and has turned that into a Wimpboy image these past three years, and it turns my stomach.
And that wimp tone is a large part of the reason the GOP got drubbed so badly in '06. They were scared to fight the lamestream media. They were scared to fight back against near traiterous libs.
The thicket of Clinton hold-overs still rules the roost at DOJ. John Ashcroft was too civil to these shills. And Alberto Gonzales prefers them...
He was indicted and more. He plea bargained and he was convicted.
It's not "BS" about protecting secrets- that's the same reason Agee was never nailed as much as he deserved, the SOB pulled the old trick of calling every covert agent and anyone remotely related to covert ops as witnesses. Rather than expose agents and methods it was regrettable better to nail him with only the base evidence and not try for the big stuff that would open the proverbial can of worms, maybe get people killed, American and allied assets.
These weenies, evil unethical lawyers and really dumb emotional juries - the latter having "reasonable doubts" no matter how much evidence of guilt is presented - are the reason "secret evidence" rules were sought. Prosecutors know the odds of getting an inteligent jury are about nil so they won't take the chance and prosecute more difficult charges with greater penalties. But if we just had smart juries with a capacity for logic many prosecutors wouldn't have to open doors better left shut - they'd be able to work with the information available.
That said, there is no doubt the DOJ is corrupted- there are elements who become tenured over the years who will protect mafia-connected people ... and certainly the Clinton cronies are mafia connected as we know from Hillary and Harold Ickes. In the Berger case it is more likely his connections saved him, otherwise prosecutors would have made absolutely certain he was ineligible for any kind ofsecurity clearance. That they didn't extract this from him is proof the prosecutors were sympathetic to him or at minimum paid off.
That's my take on it. Also, the two chief reasons for this happening.
1) President Bush is too damned polite. But it's not the President's job to be polite to traitors. When you are president, you can't always follow your personal inclinations.
2) President Bush left too damned many traitors in the FBI, the CIA, and the Justice Department. These people still work for clinton, and therefore work against the administration, and therefore work against our country (not that they minded doing that even while they were in power).
I suppose reason #2 was also the mistake of being too damned polite, too ready to be bipartisan, when the other side is partisan to the core and couldn't care less if they betray their country.
The way Jimmy Carter came into office with a folksy sunday-school teacher image. It was (and is) all for show.
Yipes. Now if I could just get in the habit checking my spelling so I could catch my skippy keyboard before hitting "post" I wouldn't look like a candidate for the next grand jury...
This Berger affair is utterly sickening. We are not angry enough, and we are losing America to criminals and traitors.
Sandy Burglar deserved nothing less than a final meal, a cigarette, and a blindfold.
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" the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation."
No shit, Sherlock! Look into Daddy Bush and Mena smuggling while you are at it.
According to Wiki - "Berger eventually pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material on April 1, 2005."
The sentencing judge raised the fine to $50K, added 2 years of probabtion, 100 hours of community service (tho' I bet that wasn't picking up roadside trash)and the 3-year clearance loss was left in place.
So my point remains. Unless something else is found (no pun - a new legal infraction), Berger has walked.
He's one of those environmental/public health nuts: no cigarette, and a vegetarian last meal.
Sounds like he got off with a hand slapping. If a Republican had done the same it would have been hysteria media reruns about justice blah blah blah.
Lets make sure this guy never has another government appointment.
Unfortunately, I think you're correct.
In a perfect world, Burglar would be doing some hefty time in the joint right about now.
All very good points. Bush has repeatedly said that the security of this country is job #1 yet does nothing about the seditionist acts.
Being a punching bag for the socialists just invites more of the same..I'm disgusted.
He should have instituted War-time Censorship Laws. But you wanna bet they'd be struck down almost before they were passed?
There's a reason incoming administrations fire all of those who "serve at the discretion of the President". These appointees are products of their benefactors. Bush, in an effort to show he could work with the Dims, chose not to replace the Clinton people in a number of key bureaucracies...State, DOJ/FBI and CIA all come to mind and all have been a thorn in his side. But, even larger than that, the Dims control of Congress for 40 years prior to Newt made the DC based Feds products of the Dim's congress. They just outlast the Republicans when we do hold office and subvert all in the name of partisan politics...what's good for the country be darned.
"They were scared to fight the lamestream media. They were scared to fight back against near traiterous libs."
I am not convinced that President Bush is a wimp. Is he 'selectively picking his battles'? I don't know, but I share the frustration many feel when assaults on the administration and our country aren't countered with the ferocity with which they are issued.
Cashill names some of them in this article. John Dion and Bruce Swartz are a couple prominently mentioned.
". . . when the other side is partisan to the core and couldn't care less if they betray their country."
It may be precisely that. It seems increasingly likely to me that the Bush & Clinton clans are quite happy to alternate control of the Whitehouse. If I'm right, look for Jeb in about 8 years...
"We are not angry enough, and we are losing America to criminals and traitors."
Davis and the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform need to be encouraged in their effort to enforce Berger's plea agreement.
'The Judge' (in video Post #2) indicated there are still pitfalls awaiting Berger if the polygraph agreement is pursued.
You are too generous. Let's skip the cigarette and blindfold.
Yes, and there may be even more of them than at the gate.
". . .the Dims control of Congress for 40 years prior to Newt made the DC based Feds products of the Dim's congress. They just outlast the Republicans when we do hold office and subvert all in the name of partisan politics...what's good for the country be darned.
I read that some of the papers that Berger burglared pertained to the Millenium Bombing plot which was still under appeal. This would fit with your theory of greymail.