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Why Bush Justice rolled over for Sandy Berger
Family Security Matters ^ | 1-25-07 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 01/25/2007 10:58:20 AM PST by windchime

As I watched these events unfold two years ago, I presumed that the Bush DOJ chose not to exploit these stories for reasons of national security. Although seemingly unrelated, both of these stories lead to the same larger secret, a secret that Berger risked his career to conceal, a secret that if revealed had the potential to destabilize the nation during a time of war.

As I have since learned, however, the Bush White House is not fully in control of its own Justice Department and FBI. In truth, the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berger; clintondocuments; clintonistas; corruption; govwatch; sandyberger; sandyburglar
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1 posted on 01/25/2007 10:58:21 AM PST by windchime
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To: windchime
Video:  Pitfalls of Berger Polygraph  (scroll down page to 'Before the Bench')
2 posted on 01/25/2007 10:59:33 AM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: windchime

It's called "Greymail".

It was first used back in the early 1980s, IIRC, as part of a criminal's defense. He threatened to defend himself on the stand by revealing certain goobermint secrets.

The courts ruled that a defendant could not publically expose confidential material in public, so closed trials were ordered and the transcripts edited or sealed.


3 posted on 01/25/2007 11:04:47 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: windchime

bookmark


4 posted on 01/25/2007 11:04:51 AM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: windchime
Recent FreeRepublic Threads:

Why I Never Should Have Had Sandy Berger on 'The Big Story'
foxnews.com ^ | 12/21/06 | John Gibson

Sandy Berger: What Did He Take and Why Did He Take It?(Sandy Burglar)   Real Clear Politics ^ | January 15, 2007 | Ronald A. Cass

The secret for which Sandy risked his all .... (remove documents from Mr. Clarke's files)    WND-January l8, 2007  Jack Cashill

Lawmakers Want Polygraph of Berger Over Stolen 9/11 Documents
Fox News ^ | 1-22-07|

5 posted on 01/25/2007 11:05:20 AM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: windchime

Washington needs to be renamed, Washingtoon, CYA.


6 posted on 01/25/2007 11:06:21 AM PST by JayAr36
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To: windchime

And why hasn't Bergler been indicted??? Why should a Rat get preferential treatment???

It is BS about secrets being protected. The NY Times seems to have the ability to access any secret that makes Bush look bad. So why is it that other so called secrets involving the DemoRat operatives get a free pass???

Something is pretty stinky here.


7 posted on 01/25/2007 11:08:07 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: SJSAMPLE

Thanks for the term, 'Greymail'.

It looks like there are ways to get to Berger without jeopardizing confidential material. Check out the video.


8 posted on 01/25/2007 11:10:53 AM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: JayAr36

And Berger and the Clintons have large ones to cover.


9 posted on 01/25/2007 11:12:45 AM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: o_zarkman44
Something is pretty stinky here.

It's called the U.S. Government. Especially the Clinton appointed part of it (though I can't but help notice that Bush IS the President of the United States now, and could probably get this taken care of, if he wanted to).

10 posted on 01/25/2007 11:13:17 AM PST by badbass
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To: windchime

-bflr--


11 posted on 01/25/2007 11:13:45 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: o_zarkman44

Cashill's articles have some interesting theories.


12 posted on 01/25/2007 11:14:57 AM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: badbass

I'm sure all will be revealed when they are all dead. I hope to be alive to hear it.


13 posted on 01/25/2007 11:15:30 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: badbass
--yep--this is one of the understatements of the year-- --"Bush White House is not fully in control of its own Justice Department and FBI."--
14 posted on 01/25/2007 11:16:02 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: badbass

GWB and his administration need to have more of a mean streak, IMO.

You can bet the current president and members of his administration will have to deal with a lot of persecution and vindictive acts if a Dem wins the presidency in '08.


15 posted on 01/25/2007 11:16:28 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: o_zarkman44
And why hasn't Bergler been indicted???

What would the new charges be?

As I understand it, he's already been tried, convicted, and sentenced. I'm not an atty, but I don't think he can be re-charged or re-sentenced - unless it was something new.

This whole thing really stinks and he'll be back in for Klintoon in '08.

16 posted on 01/25/2007 11:18:03 AM PST by GoldCountryRedneck ("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
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To: o_zarkman44
It is BS about secrets being protected. The NY Times seems to have the ability to access any secret that makes Bush look bad. So why is it that other so called secrets involving the DemoRat operatives get a free pass???
And why is Bush going along with this? Somewhat like the Palestinians, Bush never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
17 posted on 01/25/2007 11:20:30 AM PST by samtheman
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

As the media would like us to believe, he has been tried and convicted. But I don't recall any court appearances related to stealing classified documents, which is the crime in question here.
The concealment of classified documents in ones pants and the removal from the archives is strictly prohibited under law, regardless of careless intent.


18 posted on 01/25/2007 11:23:58 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: o_zarkman44
And why hasn't Bergler been indicted??? Why should a Rat get preferential treatment???

Republicans are always much more concerned to protect Democrats afflicted by scandals than they are worried about protecting Republicans.

19 posted on 01/25/2007 11:25:16 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: windchime

For later.


20 posted on 01/25/2007 11:26:47 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: windchime

Bush continues to play this "more civil tone" crap while the Dem-seditionists throw more and more mud in his face, and are nearly ready to launch impeachment.

He should have gone after the NYTimes for leaks, even if there was no reasonable chance of conviction.

And he should have hit back HARD at these race baiting Democrats following the Hurricane Katrina devastation. SCREW THIS "FEMA WAS TO BLAME" bullcrap.

FEMA did as well as possible under the circumstances. It was the thieving Mayor Nagin and the ghetto attitudes which caused 95-percent of the problems in New Orleans.

Notice the other areas in Louisana and Fla. fared much better and are well on their way to full recovery.

Bush should have set a tone three years ago that the US was not gonna sit idly by while seditionist newspapers did the legwork for alQaeda types.

And he should have charged Berger.

And he should STILL specifically name and counter these hatemonger Democrat politicians who accuse him of lying, or worse.

For heavens sake, STOP BEING A WIMP, Mr. President!!!

Bush came into office with a Cowboy image, and has turned that into a Wimpboy image these past three years, and it turns my stomach.

And that wimp tone is a large part of the reason the GOP got drubbed so badly in '06. They were scared to fight the lamestream media. They were scared to fight back against near traiterous libs.


21 posted on 01/25/2007 11:28:21 AM PST by Edit35
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To: windchime

The thicket of Clinton hold-overs still rules the roost at DOJ. John Ashcroft was too civil to these shills. And Alberto Gonzales prefers them...


22 posted on 01/25/2007 11:28:40 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: P-Marlowe; jude24; blue-duncan

ping


23 posted on 01/25/2007 11:34:39 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: o_zarkman44
And why hasn't Bergler been indicted???

He was indicted and more. He plea bargained and he was convicted.

It's not "BS" about protecting secrets- that's the same reason Agee was never nailed as much as he deserved, the SOB pulled the old trick of calling every covert agent and anyone remotely related to covert ops as witnesses. Rather than expose agents and methods it was regrettable better to nail him with only the base evidence and not try for the big stuff that would open the proverbial can of worms, maybe get people killed, American and allied assets.

These weenies, evil unethical lawyers and really dumb emotional juries - the latter having "reasonable doubts" no matter how much evidence of guilt is presented - are the reason "secret evidence" rules were sought. Prosecutors know the odds of getting an inteligent jury are about nil so they won't take the chance and prosecute more difficult charges with greater penalties. But if we just had smart juries with a capacity for logic many prosecutors wouldn't have to open doors better left shut - they'd be able to work with the information available.

That said, there is no doubt the DOJ is corrupted- there are elements who become tenured over the years who will protect mafia-connected people ... and certainly the Clinton cronies are mafia connected as we know from Hillary and Harold Ickes. In the Berger case it is more likely his connections saved him, otherwise prosecutors would have made absolutely certain he was ineligible for any kind ofsecurity clearance. That they didn't extract this from him is proof the prosecutors were sympathetic to him or at minimum paid off.

24 posted on 01/25/2007 11:36:56 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: windchime
In truth, the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation.

That's my take on it. Also, the two chief reasons for this happening.

1) President Bush is too damned polite. But it's not the President's job to be polite to traitors. When you are president, you can't always follow your personal inclinations.

2) President Bush left too damned many traitors in the FBI, the CIA, and the Justice Department. These people still work for clinton, and therefore work against the administration, and therefore work against our country (not that they minded doing that even while they were in power).

I suppose reason #2 was also the mistake of being too damned polite, too ready to be bipartisan, when the other side is partisan to the core and couldn't care less if they betray their country.

25 posted on 01/25/2007 11:38:04 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MojoWire
Oh please, Republicans have never had the power, money, or stomach to take on the enormous monopoly of the MSM/DNC/Hollywood/Academia/Bureaucracy/Judiciary, ect.

To try a blame this all on one man defeats the entire issue, much like trying to blame him for FEMA.

For what happens when he leaves office, ZILICH, or are we to conclude that things will suddenly get better in gov?

No, because gov has been growing for 40 years, coincidently, that's about as long as the MSM have been in charge of policy and our pols in the country.

Even our vaunted class of 94 could not overcome their smear campaigns against, and were defeated in 96, WITHOUT dismantling the Ed Dept which they promised to do, but backed down with the public raised cane, ie, the MSM raised cane.

It is up to us, I guess, for who of our reps in DC even know who the enemy is?
26 posted on 01/25/2007 11:40:48 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: MojoWire
Bush came into office with a Cowboy image, and has turned that into a Wimpboy image these past three years, and it turns my stomach.

The way Jimmy Carter came into office with a folksy sunday-school teacher image. It was (and is) all for show.

27 posted on 01/25/2007 11:40:48 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: piasa
inteligent

Yipes. Now if I could just get in the habit checking my spelling so I could catch my skippy keyboard before hitting "post" I wouldn't look like a candidate for the next grand jury...

28 posted on 01/25/2007 11:41:33 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: windchime

This Berger affair is utterly sickening. We are not angry enough, and we are losing America to criminals and traitors.


29 posted on 01/25/2007 11:43:08 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: windchime

Sandy Burglar deserved nothing less than a final meal, a cigarette, and a blindfold.


30 posted on 01/25/2007 11:44:42 AM PST by D-Chivas
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To: windchime

for later bump


31 posted on 01/25/2007 11:45:33 AM PST by Edgerunner (Better RED than DEAD)
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To: windchime

" the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation."

No shit, Sherlock! Look into Daddy Bush and Mena smuggling while you are at it.


32 posted on 01/25/2007 11:47:09 AM PST by lawdude (2006: The elections we will live to die for!)
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To: o_zarkman44
As the media would like us to believe, he has been tried and convicted. But I don't recall any court appearances related to stealing classified documents

According to Wiki - "Berger eventually pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material on April 1, 2005."

The sentencing judge raised the fine to $50K, added 2 years of probabtion, 100 hours of community service (tho' I bet that wasn't picking up roadside trash)and the 3-year clearance loss was left in place.

So my point remains. Unless something else is found (no pun - a new legal infraction), Berger has walked.

33 posted on 01/25/2007 11:52:50 AM PST by GoldCountryRedneck ("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
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To: D-Chivas

He's one of those environmental/public health nuts: no cigarette, and a vegetarian last meal.


34 posted on 01/25/2007 11:56:19 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

Sounds like he got off with a hand slapping. If a Republican had done the same it would have been hysteria media reruns about justice blah blah blah.

Lets make sure this guy never has another government appointment.


35 posted on 01/25/2007 11:57:22 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

Unfortunately, I think you're correct.

In a perfect world, Burglar would be doing some hefty time in the joint right about now.


36 posted on 01/25/2007 12:00:34 PM PST by khnyny
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To: MojoWire

All very good points. Bush has repeatedly said that the security of this country is job #1 yet does nothing about the seditionist acts.

Being a punching bag for the socialists just invites more of the same..I'm disgusted.


37 posted on 01/25/2007 12:02:15 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: MojoWire

He should have instituted War-time Censorship Laws. But you wanna bet they'd be struck down almost before they were passed?


38 posted on 01/25/2007 12:04:51 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: windchime

enemies within


39 posted on 01/25/2007 12:05:04 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: windchime

There's a reason incoming administrations fire all of those who "serve at the discretion of the President". These appointees are products of their benefactors. Bush, in an effort to show he could work with the Dims, chose not to replace the Clinton people in a number of key bureaucracies...State, DOJ/FBI and CIA all come to mind and all have been a thorn in his side. But, even larger than that, the Dims control of Congress for 40 years prior to Newt made the DC based Feds products of the Dim's congress. They just outlast the Republicans when we do hold office and subvert all in the name of partisan politics...what's good for the country be darned.


40 posted on 01/25/2007 12:26:08 PM PST by vigilence
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To: MojoWire

"They were scared to fight the lamestream media. They were scared to fight back against near traiterous libs."

I am not convinced that President Bush is a wimp. Is he 'selectively picking his battles'? I don't know, but I share the frustration many feel when assaults on the administration and our country aren't countered with the ferocity with which they are issued.


41 posted on 01/25/2007 12:30:40 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: Paul Ross

Cashill names some of them in this article. John Dion and Bruce Swartz are a couple prominently mentioned.


42 posted on 01/25/2007 12:37:24 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: Cicero

". . . when the other side is partisan to the core and couldn't care less if they betray their country."

So true!


43 posted on 01/25/2007 12:40:08 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: windchime
...the decision to protect Berger may have more to do with saving the Clinton legacy than with stabilizing the nation.

It may be precisely that. It seems increasingly likely to me that the Bush & Clinton clans are quite happy to alternate control of the Whitehouse. If I'm right, look for Jeb in about 8 years...

44 posted on 01/25/2007 12:44:13 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: windchime

http://www.amazon.com/Compromised-Clinton-Bush-Terry-Reed/dp/1883955025


45 posted on 01/25/2007 12:47:36 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Graymatter

"We are not angry enough, and we are losing America to criminals and traitors."

Agree.

Davis and the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform need to be encouraged in their effort to enforce Berger's plea agreement.

'The Judge' (in video Post #2) indicated there are still pitfalls awaiting Berger if the polygraph agreement is pursued.


46 posted on 01/25/2007 12:54:41 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: D-Chivas

You are too generous. Let's skip the cigarette and blindfold.


47 posted on 01/25/2007 12:57:09 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: NonValueAdded

"enemies within"

Yes, and there may be even more of them than at the gate.


48 posted on 01/25/2007 1:01:32 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: vigilence

". . .the Dims control of Congress for 40 years prior to Newt made the DC based Feds products of the Dim's congress. They just outlast the Republicans when we do hold office and subvert all in the name of partisan politics...what's good for the country be darned.


Exactly.


49 posted on 01/25/2007 1:04:51 PM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I read that some of the papers that Berger burglared pertained to the Millenium Bombing plot which was still under appeal. This would fit with your theory of greymail.


50 posted on 01/25/2007 1:11:42 PM PST by Eva
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