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[Liberal gun-grabber] Mayor Giuliani Announce City Lawsuit Against Gun Industry (w/video)
Archives of the Mayor's Press Office ^ | 20 June 2000 | New York City Mayor's Press Office

Posted on 01/26/2007 12:03:09 PM PST by Spiff

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2000

Release #238-00

Contact: Sunny Mindel / Michael Anton (212) 788-2958
Lorna Goodman (Law Department) (212) 788-0999

MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and City Council Speaker Peter F. Vallone, joined by Corporation Counsel Michael Hess, today announced that the City of New York has filed a lawsuit against two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors. The suit alleges a number of illegal practices conducted by the gun industry, including:

Refusing to manufacture safer guns, with such features as trigger locks and "personalization" measures that allow only authorized persons to fire the weapon. "This is an industry that is profiting from the suffering of innocent people," Mayor Giuliani said. "What's worse, its profits rest on a number of illegal and immoral practices. This lawsuit is meant to end the free pass that the gun industry has so long enjoyed."

Council Speaker Vallone said, "More than 30,000 people, including 4,200 children, die every year in the U.S. from firearms-more people than in any other country in the world. I join with the Mayor in this lawsuit to send a message to gun manufacturers that New York City will hold them accountable for their reckless and irresponsible practices."

The suit seeks an as yet unspecified amount of damages for the many ways in which these illegal practices and illegal guns harm New York City and its residents-including, for instance, the $17 million per year spent by the City Health and Hospitals Corporation treating gunshot wounds.

Defendants named in the suit include most major gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers currently operating the United States, or who export large numbers of guns to the United States.

Plaintiffs in the lawsuit are the City of New York, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, City Council Speaker Peter F. Vallone, and the Health and Hospitals Corporation. The suit was filed in the United States District Court, Eastern District of New York.

www.ci.nyc.ny.us

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No other city Mayor in the United States has filed such an anti-gun lawsuit. New York City has the strictest gun control laws and literally thousands of guns were confiscated by Giuliani's troops. And Giuliani is proud of that fact:

Archives of the Mayor's Press Office

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2001
Release #268-01


Contact: Sunny Mindel / Matthew Higgins
(212) 788-2958
View Mayor's
  Tom Antenen (DCPI) (212) 374-6700


MAYOR GIULIANI AND POLICE COMMISSIONER KERIK ANNOUNCE
MORE THAN 3,000 GUNS TAKEN OFF NEW YORK CITY STREETS
TO BE TURNED INTO SCRAP METAL

City Has Seized Almost 90,000 Guns Since 1994

Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and Police Commissioner Bernard B. Kerik today announced that more than 3,000 guns taken off New York City streets will soon be turned into scrap metal. The New York Police Department recovered the guns over the last several months through a number of channels and the total includes guns that were used in the commission of crimes. The guns will be transported to an undisclosed location, where they will be smelted and the metal recycled. NYPD personnel will monitor every aspect of the entire process, until every gun has been destroyed.

"The Police Department's dramatic success in reducing crime is due in large part to its corresponding success in removing guns from City streets," the Mayor said. "More than 90,000 guns have been seized since 1994, and shootings have plummeted more than 74 percent. The NYPD's gun seizure success is also reflected in the murder rate, which has plummeted 65 percent since 1994, and is down another 11 percent this year over last year. The NYPD has also ensured that thousands of guns can never be used to commit a crime by destroying them and putting the metal to good use. Now, another 3,000 guns have been taken out of circulation -- permanently."

Police Commissioner Kerik said, "The destruction of these firearms is a very tangible reminder of the intensive efforts undertaken by the NYPD and the City to remove guns from our streets. Every gun taken out of circulation is one less gun that can be used to shoot an innocent citizen, gun down a hero cop, or carelessly end up in the hands of a child."

Including the guns to be destroyed following today's announcement, more than 7,371 guns will have been smelted this year to date. In 2000, the Police Department sent 8,278 guns to be smelted and turned into scrap metal.

www.nyc.gov

CLICK HERE for official video of gun confiscation press conference.

1 posted on 01/26/2007 12:03:13 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Liz; TommyDale; EternalVigilance; Hydroshock; flashbunny; Reagan Man; narses; Nevernow; ...

(((( CONSERVATIVE PING ))))


2 posted on 01/26/2007 12:05:41 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

THis is 7 years old... what's your point?


3 posted on 01/26/2007 12:05:57 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Spiff

Oh, this is gonna be fun...


4 posted on 01/26/2007 12:06:13 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Spiff

RINO who will never be president ping.


5 posted on 01/26/2007 12:06:51 PM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: theDentist

"THis is 7 years old... what's your point?"

The point is that Rudi's record has shown himself to be far too liberal for a lot of conservatives to take. I think that the party would be split badly if he wins the nomination. I personally would either stay home or go third party before voting for a liberal like him, even if it meant Hilary won. I'll abandon the party before voting for a liberal.


6 posted on 01/26/2007 12:08:18 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Spiff

Bull


7 posted on 01/26/2007 12:08:53 PM PST by wastedyears ( "Gun control is hitting your target accurately." - Richard Marcinko)
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To: Spiff
Deliberately manufacturing many more firearms than can be bought for legitimate purposes

So what? they're giving away the surplus? Where can I go get one? Are these manufacturers subsidized, or just enjoy losing money?
Ford Motor Company may be a better target.

Giuliani is an idiot.
He should use that argument with big-screen TVs.
The manufacturers make so many of the damned things that they have to spend millions to advertise and persuade consumers to buy.

Many more big screen TVs are sold than guns, and they cost more.

The payoff would be much bigger.
Just saying.

8 posted on 01/26/2007 12:09:53 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: theDentist

I believe the point is that Rudy isnt much of a Conservative Republican. He is a gun grabber and he is pro-abortion. These two things may not set well with republican voters.


9 posted on 01/26/2007 12:10:19 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: theDentist
THis is 7 years old... what's your point?>

I would say this points out the fact Rudy boy is a gun grabbing asshat who doesn't honor the Constitution of the USA and also lies a lot since most of the reasons for instituting this lawsuit were lies. This man does NOT belong in the WH or any other elected office as far as that goes. I would say that the point of this posting is that Rudy hasn't changed in the years since but has simply gone into hiding on the issue of gun grabbing, not to mention his other left wing proclivities.

10 posted on 01/26/2007 12:11:05 PM PST by calex59
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To: theDentist
THis is 7 years old... what's your point?

My point is that Giuliani is a liberal gun grabber and he wants to be President of the United States. If he doesn't respect the 2nd Amendment, he doesn't respect any of them.

I challenge anyone to find another major city mayor who has filed a lawsuit against gun makers and who has had his people confiscate more guns than Rudy Giuliani.

There are a number of people here on Free Republic, within the Republican Party, and in the press who want to pretend that Rudy Giuliani is not a liberal and that, laughably, he is a conservative. I'm determined to make their job extremely difficult by exposing the truth about Giuliani's liberal positions and showing Republicans - especially conservative ones - that Rudy is not worthy of their vote.

11 posted on 01/26/2007 12:11:26 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: SmoothTalker
The point is that Rudi's record has shown himself to be far too liberal for a lot of conservatives to take. I think that the party would be split badly if he wins the nomination.

Well, that's nice, but not very useful.
A more useful statement might be how did the City of New York and Giuliani make out on that suit?

12 posted on 01/26/2007 12:12:30 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Spiff

Newt / Duncan!


13 posted on 01/26/2007 12:12:47 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Publius6961
A more useful statement might be how did the City of New York and Giuliani make out on that suit?

Doesn't really matter. It's the thought that counts. Giuliani was the ONLY city mayor to file a frivolous lawsuit against gun makers and has the record of confiscating more guns than any other Republican Presidential candidate in the race. That's what matters.

14 posted on 01/26/2007 12:15:06 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Are you talking about the same Guiliani who dusted off NYC's ancient cabaret laws leading to bars being fined & some shut down because people were dancing in them?

It can't be possible. I keep hearing what a good conservative Rudy is.

15 posted on 01/26/2007 12:18:02 PM PST by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: theDentist
THis is 7 years old... what's your point?

That's EXACTLY the point.

If Giuliani was a KKK member 7 years ago... If Giuliani was against tax cuts 7 years ago... If Giuliani was interested in "dialogue" with terrorists 7 years ago... If Giuliani was against the First Amendment 7 years ago... etc etc etc

16 posted on 01/26/2007 12:23:03 PM PST by D-Chivas
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To: SmoothTalker
You would rather hand over all three branches of government to the far leftists rather than a moderate, but still REPUBLICAN, candidate???

Something is amiss there.

Giuliani was the mayor of the bluest and of the blue cities at the time. How was he supposed to govern, as a Texan?
17 posted on 01/26/2007 12:23:12 PM PST by parisa (`1 Z)
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To: Spiff

bttt


18 posted on 01/26/2007 12:24:01 PM PST by stainlessbanner ("I cannot be destroyed. I cannot be silenced. I cannot be compromised." - The Nuge)
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To: Publius6961
"A more useful statement might be how did the City of New York and Giuliani make out on that suit?"

It's the intent the counts. Ted Kennedy has been trying (unsuccessfully) to ban all rifle ammo for well over a decade now, so should we not hold his intention against him because he's failed to accomplish his goal? < / rhetorical question >

19 posted on 01/26/2007 12:25:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: parisa

So the only Republican who can win is a leftist Republican.

Glad you have so much faith in your convictions.


20 posted on 01/26/2007 12:26:10 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Spiff

You're digging a little with this 7 year old thing - but that's ok.

Many (like you) are scared to death that Rudy is showing real strength - all be it - early in the process.

I suspect you did not live in NYC in the early or mid 90's - did you?

Nice post - nice try.


21 posted on 01/26/2007 12:26:59 PM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: D-Chivas
If Giuliani was against the First Amendment 7 years ago

If I remember correctly, Rudy was something like 0 for 25 in First Amendment/free speech lawsuits while Mayor.

22 posted on 01/26/2007 12:27:33 PM PST by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: Jake The Goose
You're digging a little with this 7 year old thing - but that's ok.

Is that what you thought when Kerry's Vietnam record was being discussed in 2003-04? Is that what you thought about Whitewater? Is that what you think about Sen. Byrd's membership in the KKK decades ago?

23 posted on 01/26/2007 12:30:17 PM PST by gdani (Save the cheerleader, save the world)
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To: Jake The Goose
You're digging a little with this 7 year old thing

Did any of us think think that calling out John Kerry for the traitorous statements he made about Vietnam over 30 years ago was out of line? Of course not -- there's no statute of limitations on statements/actions.

24 posted on 01/26/2007 12:31:44 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: gdani

Ah, beat me to it.


25 posted on 01/26/2007 12:32:03 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: theDentist; Spiff

Has Rudy changed? I don't think so and thanks for posting Spiff.


26 posted on 01/26/2007 12:32:03 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Spiff
...Giuliani was the ONLY city mayor to file a frivolous lawsuit against gun makers...

Lil' Dickie Daley sued the gun industry, also. There have been many big city mayors who thought they could get on the gravy train, and pander to a gun-grabbing urban population. All of the suits have been shot out of the saddle, but that doesn't dissuade these two-bit, ward-heeling, vote stealing peckerwoods from trying. I think the list includes San Francisco, Philly, Baltimore, D.C., Chicago, Milwaukee, Boston, Atlanta, Salt Lake, Seattle...

27 posted on 01/26/2007 12:32:15 PM PST by jonascord ("Don't shoot 'em! Let 'em burn!...")
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To: Spiff

Rudy is good for NYC, period. He does not belong in the WH.


28 posted on 01/26/2007 12:32:23 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: Vision

Let's buy Hunter a new suit & a good haircut and have his face on every TV in America! WOOT!


29 posted on 01/26/2007 12:33:20 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: Jake The Goose
You're digging a little with this 7 year old thing - but that's ok. I suspect you did not live in NYC in the early or mid 90's - did you?

Read what you posted and you may comprehend why I'm ROTFL right now.

First, you say that something 7 years old is irrelevant. Then two sentences later you bring up Rudy's record of cleaning up NYC more than 7 years ago.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say his crackdown on squeegee men, bums, and hookers is relevant while saying his lawsuit against gun makers and his proud confiscation of thousands of guns is irrelevant. And you certainly can't say that the two are equally important in the minds of informed conservatives.

30 posted on 01/26/2007 12:33:26 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Jake The Goose

You'd have to crazy to ignore past actions and not consider them as relevant. Seven years is NOTHING in politics.

What "real strength" has Rudy shown?

I didn't live in NYC, either.
I live in a city (and state) which supports our Constitutional rights and doesn't run roughshod around (and over) them.

Too many apologists who are willing to ignore facts and past deeds in slavish persuit of "the cult of personality".

Nice try.


31 posted on 01/26/2007 12:33:37 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: theDentist

The point is that he's a gun grabbing rino that is repugnant to the core values of the conservative base of the GOP.

But HE CAN WIN!


32 posted on 01/26/2007 12:37:25 PM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be plucking feathers and boiling tar.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Throw in some body language lessons and I'm in.


33 posted on 01/26/2007 12:38:39 PM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: parisa
When the candidate with an (R) after his name would not surprise anyone at all if there was a (D) there, the "but-but-but he's an (R)!" argument doesn't fly.
34 posted on 01/26/2007 12:39:02 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: parisa

And if your chosen RINO wins the election, and the democrat controlled congress passes all sorts of gun bank laws, will Rudy sign or veto those bills?

That's why it matters. That pesky constitution thing.


35 posted on 01/26/2007 12:39:18 PM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be plucking feathers and boiling tar.)
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To: Spiff
Well then, when you post an old article like this, follow up and condense your thoughts for us.

And yes, we know Guiliani is a gun grabbing liberal-lite RINO.

36 posted on 01/26/2007 12:39:44 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Spiff
You can't have it both ways. You can't say his crackdown on squeegee men, bums, and hookers is relevant while saying his lawsuit against gun makers and his proud confiscation of thousands of guns is irrelevant. And you certainly can't say that the two are equally important in the minds of informed conservatives.

Awesome point, Spiff! But I don't expect Rudy pimps to get your point. They are all about having it both ways. Afterall, they somehow come to the conclusion that Rudy is a conservative despite his overtly liberal history.

37 posted on 01/26/2007 12:39:59 PM PST by shempy (EABOF)
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To: Spiff

"First, you say that something 7 years old is irrelevant. Then two sentences later you bring up Rudy's record of cleaning up NYC more than 7 years ago."

OUCH! Game over man, GAME OVER!

Nice point!


38 posted on 01/26/2007 12:40:07 PM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be plucking feathers and boiling tar.)
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To: Spiff

guilliani is NOT a good candidate for the Presidency! He'll try to do what ius being done in Iraq, pacification of the people by taking their gun rights away- He may have soem good qualities, but he IS a far left liberal on important issues!

The following link does not relate to this thread http://sacredscoop.com


39 posted on 01/26/2007 12:42:39 PM PST by CottShop
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To: theDentist
And yes, we know Guiliani is a gun grabbing liberal-lite RINO.

Certainly we know, but many others around here either don't know or are in complete denial about it. .....or they simply don't care, being liberal-lite RINOs themselves.

40 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:10 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SmoothTalker

I'll second your point and throw in another anti-gun politician named Romney.


41 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:48 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Spiff
Deliberately manufacturing many more firearms than can be bought for legitimate purposes such as hunting and law enforcement,

Fascinating that self-defense is not mentioned as a legitmate purpose.

42 posted on 01/26/2007 12:46:43 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: flashbunny; ctdonath2; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

The issues we are going to be facing will not be only about gun control, and even though Giuliani might not be my first choice, still YES, I would take a RINO Giuliani any day over a Clinton.


43 posted on 01/26/2007 12:47:36 PM PST by parisa (`1 Z)
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To: Spiff
First, you say that something 7 years old is irrelevant. Then two sentences later you bring up Rudy's record of cleaning up NYC more than 7 years ago.

That one's gonna leave a mark...

44 posted on 01/26/2007 12:47:55 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: parisa

"How was he supposed to govern, as a Texan?"


As someone who respects the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


45 posted on 01/26/2007 12:48:42 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He's not a Leftist Republican. When he was my Mayor, Rudy was considered a right-wing fascist by Liberals in NYC. He was called Rudy Ghouliani. They compared him to Mussolini. He had to make compromises in order to get elected Mayor and to govern the city. In spite of Democrat opposition, he was able to crack down on crime in NYC. While he was Mayor the murder rate plummeted. Under Dinkins it was out of control. He set a tone for the city that the real RINO Mayor Bloomberg is reversing.


46 posted on 01/26/2007 12:48:45 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He had to make compromises in order to get elected Mayor and to govern the city.

Including fighting NYC's sanctuary city status to the Supreme Court, and then saying he would disregard the ruling against the city?

Including revoking permits to own guns from long-time holders? In that department, Rudy was to the right of David Dinkins.

And now this nonsense? Suing gun makers for making more guns than the Mayor of NYC deemed necessary for the rest of the country?

47 posted on 01/26/2007 12:51:35 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: parisa
Quote 1: We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

Quote 2: Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.

Can you tell me the philisophical difference?
Hillary said one.
Rudy said the other.
Can you tell me who said which?

When there is no discernable difference, there is no discernable difference. Puting sheep's clothing on a wolf doens't make the wolf any more friendly.

48 posted on 01/26/2007 12:59:12 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: theDentist

"THis is 7 years old... what's your point"?



This is becoming tedious. All you need to know is that if Rudy doesn't see the error of his ways, and truly get Constitutional, ASAP, best he keep his butt in Manhattan.

What you are running up against is a big bunch of Americans,who are fed up with negotiating away freedom.
All you city folks can just "go along to get along",all you want, but,I'm a stupid Redneck,hung up on principles.
If I want a gun grabber in the Whitehouse, I can vote for a democrat, and snag some free goodies too. I reckon that Rudy might just grab my shotgun, and never give me any free milk and cookies.
Hell, I ain't even tempted, my daddy never raised any nutless boy children.
I live in a swamp, because I "can", not because I "must"!
Can you not even understand the difference?


49 posted on 01/26/2007 1:00:59 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: parisa

"I would take a RINO Giuliani any day over a Clinton."

That wasn't the question. But it's just like a rudy supporter to avoid answering the tough questions and try to make it a scare instead.

"If you don't support rudy we'll lose the war on terror". As if the only choice was either an anti-war dem or Rudy The Rino.

You seem to sell out rather easily.


50 posted on 01/26/2007 1:02:19 PM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be plucking feathers and boiling tar.)
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