Posted on 01/26/2007 12:38:37 PM PST by presidio9
A draft U.N. report projecting a big rise in temperatures this century is likely to add fuel to the debate about whether the world is facing dangerous global warming, experts said on Friday.
The draft, by 2,500 scientists and due for release in Paris on February 2, is expected to warn of more heat waves, floods, droughts and rising seas linked to greenhouse gases released mainly by burning fossil fuels, scientific sources say.
World leaders, including former U.S. President George Bush, signed a U.N. Climate Convention in 1992 with an overriding goal of stabilizing greenhouse gases at levels preventing "dangerous (human) interference with the climate system."
However, it did not define "dangerous" and the issue has been a vexed point in efforts to slow climate change ever since.
"The new report should fuel the debate" among scientists and in the media, said Jan Corfee-Morlot, who heads work on climate change at the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).
"For politicians, the question of what is dangerous is not formally on a negotiating agenda, but it is in the background."
The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is expected to predict a temperature rise of 2 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (3.5-8 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by 2100 with a "best estimate" of a rise of 3 degrees C (5.5 F), scientific sources said.
That is a narrower range than the 1.4-5.8C (2.5-10.4F) in the previous IPCC report in 2001 -- even the minimum 1.4 rise would be the biggest in a century for 10,000 years. Temperatures have risen about 0.6C (1.1F) since 1900.
SLOWER SEA RISE
Among good news, the new report will narrow and revise down forecast sea rises this century to less than half a meter from 9 cm to 88 cm (3.5-34.5 inches) in the 2001 report.
The European Union and many environmental groups want the world to cap any rise in temperatures at 2 degrees C (3.6 F) over pre-industrial levels, saying such a rise would cause dangerous changes to nature such as more heat waves.
"The IPCC cannot say what is dangerous because that is a political judgment," said Bert Metz, a climate expert at the Dutch Environmental Assessment Agency.
"But it gives the ingredients for the politicians to draw conclusions...as the EU has done."
Corfee-Morlot said it might be easier to set targets such as limiting the concentrations of carbon dioxide or temperature rises than to define dangerous benchmarks.
Inuit peoples say a melting of the Arctic ice is already "dangerous" for their hunting culture, for instance, while Russia might benefit from a slight rise in temperatures because of fewer deaths from cold and higher yields of some crops.
A 2006 report by Nicholas Stern, the chief British government economist, projected a rise of 3 C would mean that between 1 billion and 4 billion more people would suffer water shortages and put an extra 150 million to 550 million people at risk of hunger.
Other experts say the risks have been exaggerated.
"I don't think the IPCC will reflect the sense of catastrophe that has built up in the climate change debate," said Bjorn Lomborg, the Danish author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist."
Under the Kyoto Protocol, the U.N. plan for fighting global warming, 35 industrial nations have agreed to cut emissions by 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2008-12.
President George W. Bush pulled the United States out of the protocol in 2001, saying it would damage the U.S. economy and wrongly exempted developing nations from the first phase.
More lies from Reuters. The US does not honor the Kyoto treaty, because when it was submitted to the Senate for ratification, it was shot down 97-0.
This is an absolute B.S. lie!
I could have used some climatic warming last night when it was -3.6 degrees.
And by the way, this no vote for Kyoto took place during the Bill Clinton/Al Gore administration.
I guess these losers should of picked a different day then today for this. How do the Man made Global Warming Frauds explain this?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1656178/posts
Mars Emerging from Ice Age, Data Suggest (Global Warming On Mars)
The job of conservatives is to confront hysteria. Now, our Rino leaders have thrown in with the hystericals. So, in the end, yes we might be DOOOMMMMMED!
Here on soon to be under the rising ocean Manhattan Island, it is -10 with the windchill factor today. Years from now, my grandchildren are sure to be cursing me for ignoring algore's warnings.
Well, that settles it. We need to pass a law saying the temperature cannot rise more than two degrees C or else we'll bomb the Sun.
Cyclical warming trend to speed up as predicted by global climatologists who don't buy into the lie of man-made global warming- nuff said.
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So they would be satisfied to wait for the 2 degree rise (IF it happens), then seed the atmosphere with sulfur to immediately cap the rise right?
That is a narrower range than the 1.4-5.8C (2.5-10.4F) in the previous IPCC report in 2001
Why isn't the headline: "Global Warming Predicitions Fall"?
If a jobs report comes out, or some economic indicator is lower than predicited, the MSM loves to shriek FALL -LOWER- LESS -BELOW EXPECTATIONS -etc etc etc, wonder why its different here....
Translation: Lets get as much money out of this snake oil operation before more scientist bail to the other side
On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized (although it had been fully negotiated, and a penultimate draft was finished), the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 950 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98),[40] which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or "would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States". On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations.[41] The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
Reuters is a lie machine.
Hysteria reigns in the media. All of this has been debunked, but they would rather save a spotted owl, a snail darter or a redwood tree than save an unborn child. Unbelievable.
Maybe it will dry some of this mud up that the 30-40 degree heat wave left over South Texas
Heat Wave
Martha Reeves & the Vandellas
Whenever I'm with him
Something inside
Starts to burnin'
And I'm filled with desire
Could it be the devil in me
Or is this the way love's supposed to be
Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can't keep from cryin'
It's tearing me apart
Whenever he calls my name
So slow, sweet and plain
I feel, yeah, yeah, well I feel that burning flame
Has my blood pressure got a hold on me
Or is this the way love's supposed to be
Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can't keep from cryin'
It's tearing me apart
Sometimes I stare in space
Tears all over my face
I can't explain it, don't understand it
I 'ain't never felt like this before
But that doesn't mean it has me amazed
I don't know what to do, my head's in a haze
Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can't keep from cryin'
It's tearing me apart
Don't pass up this chance
This time it's a true romance
Heatwave
I forgot to add that that traitorous weasling horn-dog DID manage to sign the treaty, knowing full well that the Senate would do his dirty work for him. Nobody was paying much attention at the time, because he was busy getting impeached for perjury.
Did each one get to write a page? Do they all get their names on the cover?
Mars is warming.
Pluto is warming.
Earth is warming.
The United Planets should require an adjustment of orbits.
Anyone who disagrees is a Planetary Warming Denier.
Global warming to speed up
Translation: Lets get as much money out of this snake oil operation before more scientist bail to the other side
Five or ten or one hundred times nothing is still nothing.
my equally scientific response: good. if it speeds up, then it will go past us more quickly.
Who are they fooling, that's just the wind.
I hope so. It was a high of ten degrees here today.
The wind chill has the temp here in Philly feeling like 10 degrees.
How can I do my part to INCREASE global warming?
At least enough to keep my car door from freezing shut...
"Global warming to speed up"
I call BS: http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html#anchor29241
EXACTLY!
There have been obvious signs of panic for months now as a good portion of the public and the scientific community haven't bought into this blatant scare tactic designed to corral research $$$.
This isn't science, it's an attempt to create an industry.
I never had six foot of snow in two weeks. Global warming, I Gore is off his medication.
So tomorrow it will be 90 degrees in Chicago?
The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is expected to predict a temperature rise of 2 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (3.5-8 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by 2100 with a "best estimate" of a rise of 3 degrees C (5.5 F), scientific sources said.
So here's the thing. I'll be long by then anyway. Plus the way the weather has been lately I think most of us would welcome a little global warming.
Pluto is warming.
Earth is warming.
So are Jupiter and Mars according to a recent study done by astrophysicist at Berkley. Me thinks that pesky E.T. has gone and traded in his flying bike for a Hummer.
Except he's now talking about reducing 'carbon emissions'.
Completely untrue. Clinton was in the White House.
suffer water shortages
What, with all the melting glaciers?
The weather we've had in the US couldn't have been better timed if we tried.
No difference in "sense of the Senate" and a vote by the senate when the count is 97 to 0. Reuters needs to check its facts.
Climate Change: Unpredictable Results
Let's see now --- anybody want to guess who will be Algore's running mate for 2008 after he wins the nomination instead of Hillary Clinton?
I'll guess it will be Deepak Chopak. :)
Algore and Deepak pictured: http://www.newsforthesoul.com/graphics/alliance/ChopraGore1019.gif
The NFTS Alliance for the New Humanity coverage ~ a ground breaking event with Deepak Chopra and AlGore ..happened on Dec. 11-14, 2003 in Puerto Rico and News for the Soul was there to cover it - and will be there again! These are the people who are going to lead the rest of us in changing the world. http://www.newsforthesoul.com/alliance.htm
Deepak even appears on Algore's cable TV venture Current TV: http://www.slate.com/id/2123953/
http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2005/08/dummie-funnies-08-01-05-al-gore-tv.html
And "The young staff of reporters, producers and hosts includes Gotham Chopra, son of self-help guru Deepak Chopra and Laura Ling (Channel One News, MTV). http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/19/84047.shtml
James Hansen, Deepak Chopra, and Algore plan to "End the war on Terra" http://www.championtrees.org/climate/WaketheFolkUp.htm
So, how come no real heat distributing hurricanes last season, or constant mention of the Gulf Stream changing?
Okay, the envirocommies, and their partners in deceit, the DBM, may bring up El Nino once in a while, but the current temp here is about 0F, with windchills around the region in the mid -20sF. Why the chill and not the global warming heat?
If it's like the TAR, then it's not actually a research document (in case anyone thinks it is). The "peer-review" as has been described since then was more a social gathering. ...And then it was re-written by politicians.
Oh...and they let Mann run amuk and advance his own work over others in it (TAR).
It wasn't actually even submitted, was it? I thought that was a statement from the Senate that Clinton shouldn't even bother to send it to them until a number of issues were resolved. Clinton himself recognized it as deeply flawed.
Faster!!! Dammit!! Faster! I said!!!
The hubris of left wing Earthlings never fails to amaze me. These folks have about the same power to limit Earth's temperature deltas as a gnat does to control the volume of elephant crap coming out of an elephants arse.
The psychosis continues...
Good find
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