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Global warming to speed up
Reuters ^ | 01/27/06 | Alister Doyle

Posted on 01/26/2007 12:38:37 PM PST by presidio9

A draft U.N. report projecting a big rise in temperatures this century is likely to add fuel to the debate about whether the world is facing dangerous global warming, experts said on Friday.

The draft, by 2,500 scientists and due for release in Paris on February 2, is expected to warn of more heat waves, floods, droughts and rising seas linked to greenhouse gases released mainly by burning fossil fuels, scientific sources say.

World leaders, including former U.S. President George Bush, signed a U.N. Climate Convention in 1992 with an overriding goal of stabilizing greenhouse gases at levels preventing "dangerous (human) interference with the climate system."

However, it did not define "dangerous" and the issue has been a vexed point in efforts to slow climate change ever since.

"The new report should fuel the debate" among scientists and in the media, said Jan Corfee-Morlot, who heads work on climate change at the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).

"For politicians, the question of what is dangerous is not formally on a negotiating agenda, but it is in the background."

The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is expected to predict a temperature rise of 2 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (3.5-8 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by 2100 with a "best estimate" of a rise of 3 degrees C (5.5 F), scientific sources said.

That is a narrower range than the 1.4-5.8C (2.5-10.4F) in the previous IPCC report in 2001 -- even the minimum 1.4 rise would be the biggest in a century for 10,000 years. Temperatures have risen about 0.6C (1.1F) since 1900.

SLOWER SEA RISE

Among good news, the new report will narrow and revise down forecast sea rises this century to less than half a meter from 9 cm to 88 cm (3.5-34.5 inches) in the 2001 report.

The European Union and many environmental groups want the world to cap any rise in temperatures at 2 degrees C (3.6 F) over pre-industrial levels, saying such a rise would cause dangerous changes to nature such as more heat waves.

"The IPCC cannot say what is dangerous because that is a political judgment," said Bert Metz, a climate expert at the Dutch Environmental Assessment Agency.

"But it gives the ingredients for the politicians to draw conclusions...as the EU has done."

Corfee-Morlot said it might be easier to set targets such as limiting the concentrations of carbon dioxide or temperature rises than to define dangerous benchmarks.

Inuit peoples say a melting of the Arctic ice is already "dangerous" for their hunting culture, for instance, while Russia might benefit from a slight rise in temperatures because of fewer deaths from cold and higher yields of some crops.

A 2006 report by Nicholas Stern, the chief British government economist, projected a rise of 3 C would mean that between 1 billion and 4 billion more people would suffer water shortages and put an extra 150 million to 550 million people at risk of hunger.

Other experts say the risks have been exaggerated.

"I don't think the IPCC will reflect the sense of catastrophe that has built up in the climate change debate," said Bjorn Lomborg, the Danish author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist."

Under the Kyoto Protocol, the U.N. plan for fighting global warming, 35 industrial nations have agreed to cut emissions by 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2008-12.

President George W. Bush pulled the United States out of the protocol in 2001, saying it would damage the U.S. economy and wrongly exempted developing nations from the first phase.


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President George W. Bush pulled the United States out of the protocol in 2001, saying it would damage the U.S. economy and wrongly exempted developing nations from the first phase.

More lies from Reuters. The US does not honor the Kyoto treaty, because when it was submitted to the Senate for ratification, it was shot down 97-0.

1 posted on 01/26/2007 12:38:39 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
President George W. Bush pulled the United States out of the protocol in 2001, saying it would damage the U.S. economy and wrongly exempted developing nations from the first phase.

This is an absolute B.S. lie!

2 posted on 01/26/2007 12:40:13 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: presidio9

I could have used some climatic warming last night when it was -3.6 degrees.


3 posted on 01/26/2007 12:40:49 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends we need a 800 ship Navy.)
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To: presidio9

And by the way, this no vote for Kyoto took place during the Bill Clinton/Al Gore administration.


4 posted on 01/26/2007 12:42:21 PM PST by hermgem (The same)
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To: presidio9

I guess these losers should of picked a different day then today for this. How do the Man made Global Warming Frauds explain this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1656178/posts

Mars Emerging from Ice Age, Data Suggest (Global Warming On Mars)


5 posted on 01/26/2007 12:42:32 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

The job of conservatives is to confront hysteria. Now, our Rino leaders have thrown in with the hystericals. So, in the end, yes we might be DOOOMMMMMED!


6 posted on 01/26/2007 12:43:43 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: presidio9

http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,05394.cfm


7 posted on 01/26/2007 12:43:47 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Here on soon to be under the rising ocean Manhattan Island, it is -10 with the windchill factor today. Years from now, my grandchildren are sure to be cursing me for ignoring algore's warnings.


8 posted on 01/26/2007 12:43:50 PM PST by presidio9 (The worst thing about FR is biggots like ecoil)
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To: presidio9
The European Union and many environmental groups want the world to cap any rise in temperatures at 2 degrees C (3.6 F) over pre-industrial levels, saying such a rise would cause dangerous changes to nature such as more heat waves.

Well, that settles it. We need to pass a law saying the temperature cannot rise more than two degrees C or else we'll bomb the Sun.

9 posted on 01/26/2007 12:44:48 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08 - rationalization not required, he IS a conservative already)
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To: presidio9

Cyclical warming trend to speed up as predicted by global climatologists who don't buy into the lie of man-made global warming- nuff said.

The following link does not relate to this thread http://sacredscoop.com


10 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:00 PM PST by CottShop
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To: presidio9
The European Union and many environmental groups want the world to cap any rise in temperatures at 2 degrees C (3.6 F)

So they would be satisfied to wait for the 2 degree rise (IF it happens), then seed the atmosphere with sulfur to immediately cap the rise right?

11 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:27 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: presidio9
The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is expected to predict a temperature rise of 2 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (3.5-8 Fahrenheit)

That is a narrower range than the 1.4-5.8C (2.5-10.4F) in the previous IPCC report in 2001

Why isn't the headline: "Global Warming Predicitions Fall"?

If a jobs report comes out, or some economic indicator is lower than predicited, the MSM loves to shriek FALL -LOWER- LESS -BELOW EXPECTATIONS -etc etc etc, wonder why its different here....

12 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:29 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: presidio9
Global warming to speed up

Translation: Lets get as much money out of this snake oil operation before more scientist bail to the other side

13 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:50 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: presidio9

On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized (although it had been fully negotiated, and a penultimate draft was finished), the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 95–0 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98),[40] which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or "would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States". On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations.[41] The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol

Reuters is a lie machine.


14 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:54 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: presidio9

Hysteria reigns in the media. All of this has been debunked, but they would rather save a spotted owl, a snail darter or a redwood tree than save an unborn child. Unbelievable.


15 posted on 01/26/2007 12:45:58 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: presidio9

Maybe it will dry some of this mud up that the 30-40 degree heat wave left over South Texas


16 posted on 01/26/2007 12:46:44 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: presidio9
You're all doomed!

17 posted on 01/26/2007 12:46:51 PM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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To: presidio9

Heat Wave
Martha Reeves & the Vandellas

Whenever I'm with him
Something inside
Starts to burnin'
And I'm filled with desire

Could it be the devil in me
Or is this the way love's supposed to be

Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can't keep from cryin'
It's tearing me apart

Whenever he calls my name
So slow, sweet and plain
I feel, yeah, yeah, well I feel that burning flame

Has my blood pressure got a hold on me
Or is this the way love's supposed to be

Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can't keep from cryin'
It's tearing me apart

Sometimes I stare in space
Tears all over my face
I can't explain it, don't understand it
I 'ain't never felt like this before

But that doesn't mean it has me amazed
I don't know what to do, my head's in a haze

Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can't keep from cryin'
It's tearing me apart

Don't pass up this chance
This time it's a true romance

Heatwave


18 posted on 01/26/2007 12:46:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: hermgem

I forgot to add that that traitorous weasling horn-dog DID manage to sign the treaty, knowing full well that the Senate would do his dirty work for him. Nobody was paying much attention at the time, because he was busy getting impeached for perjury.


19 posted on 01/26/2007 12:47:41 PM PST by presidio9 (The worst thing about FR is biggots like ecoil)
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To: presidio9
This just in: scientists now claim that global warming will hit two days before the day after tomorrow.
20 posted on 01/26/2007 12:52:04 PM PST by faq
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To: presidio9
The draft, by 2,500 scientists and due for release in Paris on February 2 . . .

Did each one get to write a page? Do they all get their names on the cover?

21 posted on 01/26/2007 12:53:30 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: presidio9

Mars is warming.

Pluto is warming.

Earth is warming.

The United Planets should require an adjustment of orbits.

Anyone who disagrees is a Planetary Warming Denier.


22 posted on 01/26/2007 12:56:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: Doogle

Global warming to speed up

Translation: Lets get as much money out of this snake oil operation before more scientist bail to the other side



Bingo Doogle - Spot On


23 posted on 01/26/2007 12:56:55 PM PST by libertarian27
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To: presidio9
Global warming to speed up

Five or ten or one hundred times nothing is still nothing.

24 posted on 01/26/2007 12:58:23 PM PST by stevem
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To: presidio9

my equally scientific response: good. if it speeds up, then it will go past us more quickly.


25 posted on 01/26/2007 12:58:57 PM PST by smonk
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To: presidio9

Who are they fooling, that's just the wind.


26 posted on 01/26/2007 12:59:18 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: presidio9

I hope so. It was a high of ten degrees here today.


27 posted on 01/26/2007 1:00:56 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am the Cat who Walks by Himself and all places are alike to me!)
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To: presidio9

The wind chill has the temp here in Philly feeling like 10 degrees.

How can I do my part to INCREASE global warming?

At least enough to keep my car door from freezing shut...


28 posted on 01/26/2007 1:05:33 PM PST by fleagle
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To: presidio9

"Global warming to speed up"

I call BS: http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html#anchor29241


29 posted on 01/26/2007 1:09:14 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Doogle

EXACTLY!

There have been obvious signs of panic for months now as a good portion of the public and the scientific community haven't bought into this blatant scare tactic designed to corral research $$$.

This isn't science, it's an attempt to create an industry.


30 posted on 01/26/2007 1:09:25 PM PST by JennysCool (Blink 182 isn't just a band, it's Nancy Pelosi's per-minute average.)
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To: presidio9

I never had six foot of snow in two weeks. Global warming, I Gore is off his medication.


31 posted on 01/26/2007 1:09:38 PM PST by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: presidio9

So tomorrow it will be 90 degrees in Chicago?


32 posted on 01/26/2007 1:11:27 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: presidio9

The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is expected to predict a temperature rise of 2 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (3.5-8 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by 2100 with a "best estimate" of a rise of 3 degrees C (5.5 F), scientific sources said.



So here's the thing. I'll be long by then anyway. Plus the way the weather has been lately I think most of us would welcome a little global warming.


33 posted on 01/26/2007 1:15:37 PM PST by Taichi
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To: presidio9
because when it was submitted to the Senate for ratification, it was shot down 97-0.


It was never submitted- Bush could submit it tomorrow for ratification.

Clinton asked for a "sense of the senate" vote and got your 97-0 answer, so rather than have it shot down and be gone, he never sent it, hoping that some other president would have a different Senate and get it ratified.
34 posted on 01/26/2007 1:20:49 PM PST by DBrow
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To: presidio9

Pluto is warming.

Earth is warming.

So are Jupiter and Mars according to a recent study done by astrophysicist at Berkley. Me thinks that pesky E.T. has gone and traded in his flying bike for a Hummer.


35 posted on 01/26/2007 1:26:34 PM PST by Rodney Kings Brain ("veritas odium parit" - "truth begets hatred")
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To: presidio9

Except he's now talking about reducing 'carbon emissions'.


36 posted on 01/26/2007 1:30:46 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: frogjerk

Completely untrue. Clinton was in the White House.


37 posted on 01/26/2007 1:32:11 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: presidio9

suffer water shortages

What, with all the melting glaciers?


38 posted on 01/26/2007 1:33:05 PM PST by DBrow
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To: mountainlyons

The weather we've had in the US couldn't have been better timed if we tried.


39 posted on 01/26/2007 1:36:07 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: DBrow

No difference in "sense of the Senate" and a vote by the senate when the count is 97 to 0. Reuters needs to check its facts.


40 posted on 01/26/2007 1:40:46 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: presidio9

Climate Change: Unpredictable Results

Oct. 7, 1912 New York Times Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an
Encroaching Ice Age
Still encroaching…
 
 
 
June 28, 1923 Los Angeles Times The possibility of another Ice Age already
having started… is admitted by men of
first rank in the scientific world, men specially
qualified to speak.
 
Must be a slow starter.
 
 
 
Aug. 9, 1923 Chicago Tribune Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out
Canada
 
Still there last time we checked.
 
 
 
December 1932 The Atlantic We must be just teetering on an ice age
which some relatively mild geologic action
would be sufficient to start going.
 
Still teetering.
 
 
 
Feb. 20, 1969 New York Times
from Col. Bernt
Bachen
The Arctic pack ice is thinning and that
the ocean at the North Pole may become
an open sea within a decade or two.
 
Santa still is safe.
 
 
 
February 1974 Fortune magazine
from Reid Bryson
There is very important climatic change
going on right now… It is something that,
if it continues, will affect the whole human
occupation of the earth – like a billion
people starving.
 
World population increased by
2.5 billion.
 
 
 
March 1, 1975 Science News The cooling since 1940 has been large
enough and consistent enough that it will
not soon be reversed, and we are unlikely
to quickly regain the “very extraordinary
period of warmth” that preceded it.
 
If “not soon be reversed” means
“reversed by the next decade,”
then yes.
 
 
 
March 1, 1975 Science News The temperature has already fallen back
some 0.6 degrees, and shows no sign of
reversal.
 
So much for climatologists reading
the signs correctly.
 
 
 
July-August 1975 International Wildlife But the sense of the discoveries is that
there is no reason why the ice age should
not start in earnest in our lifetimes.
 
There’s still time.
 
 
 
1992 Al Gore, “Earth in
the Balance”
About 10 million residents of Bangladesh
will lose their homes and means of sustenance
because of the rising sea level,
due to global warming, in the next few
decades.
 
While periodic monsoons still
cause flooding, rising seas have
not been a problem.
 
 
 
Feb. 2, 2006 The Daily Telegraph “Billions will die,” says Lovelock, who tells
us that he is not normally a gloomy type.
Human civilisation will be reduced to a
“broken rabble ruled by brutal warlords”,
and the plague-ridden remainder of the
species will flee the cracked and broken
earth to the Arctic, the last temperate
spot, where a few breeding couples will
survive.
 
Even Malthus must be turning
over in his grave over this one.

41 posted on 01/26/2007 1:42:12 PM PST by Dubya-M-Dees (Mary Mapes was the first in the MSM that had to participate in an election by the people... she lost)
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To: presidio9; PJ-Comix; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather; Grampa Dave; ...

Let's see now --- anybody want to guess who will be Algore's running mate for 2008 after he wins the nomination instead of Hillary Clinton?

I'll guess it will be Deepak Chopak. :)

Algore and Deepak pictured: http://www.newsforthesoul.com/graphics/alliance/ChopraGore1019.gif
The NFTS Alliance for the New Humanity coverage ~ a ground breaking event with Deepak Chopra and AlGore ..happened on Dec. 11-14, 2003 in Puerto Rico and News for the Soul was there to cover it - and will be there again! These are the people who are going to lead the rest of us in changing the world. http://www.newsforthesoul.com/alliance.htm

Deepak even appears on Algore's cable TV venture Current TV: http://www.slate.com/id/2123953/

http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2005/08/dummie-funnies-08-01-05-al-gore-tv.html

And "The young staff of reporters, producers and hosts includes Gotham Chopra, son of self-help guru Deepak Chopra and Laura Ling (Channel One News, MTV). http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/19/84047.shtml

James Hansen, Deepak Chopra, and Algore plan to "End the war on Terra" http://www.championtrees.org/climate/WaketheFolkUp.htm


42 posted on 01/26/2007 1:48:46 PM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Red Badger
I just listened to a podcast from a science show. Astronomers have observed fairly equal temperature distributions of a couple of Jupiter-like planets in other star systems that are closer to their stars than Mercury is to the Sun. That means that the "winds" on those planets are super, if not hypersonic, in order to distribute the heat, gas giants that they are.

So, how come no real heat distributing hurricanes last season, or constant mention of the Gulf Stream changing?

Okay, the envirocommies, and their partners in deceit, the DBM, may bring up El Nino once in a while, but the current temp here is about 0F, with windchills around the region in the mid -20sF. Why the chill and not the global warming heat?

43 posted on 01/26/2007 1:49:53 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: presidio9
The draft, by 2,500 scientists

If it's like the TAR, then it's not actually a research document (in case anyone thinks it is). The "peer-review" as has been described since then was more a social gathering. ...And then it was re-written by politicians.

Oh...and they let Mann run amuk and advance his own work over others in it (TAR).

44 posted on 01/26/2007 1:50:16 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: presidio9
The US does not honor the Kyoto treaty, because when it was submitted to the Senate for ratification, it was shot down 97-0.

It wasn't actually even submitted, was it? I thought that was a statement from the Senate that Clinton shouldn't even bother to send it to them until a number of issues were resolved. Clinton himself recognized it as deeply flawed.

45 posted on 01/26/2007 1:51:49 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: presidio9

Faster!!! Dammit!! Faster! I said!!!


46 posted on 01/26/2007 1:52:44 PM PST by Waco
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To: presidio9
The European Union and many environmental groups want the world to cap any rise in temperatures at 2 degrees C (3.6 F) over pre-industrial levels, saying such a rise would cause dangerous changes to nature such as more heat waves.

The hubris of left wing Earthlings never fails to amaze me. These folks have about the same power to limit Earth's temperature deltas as a gnat does to control the volume of elephant crap coming out of an elephants arse.

47 posted on 01/26/2007 1:56:07 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: presidio9

The psychosis continues...


48 posted on 01/26/2007 2:00:54 PM PST by TheDon (Are you a cut and run conservative?)
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To: Dubya-M-Dees

Good find


49 posted on 01/26/2007 2:03:29 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: MNJohnnie
Answer to your question:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1774256/posts?page=64#64

50 posted on 01/26/2007 2:05:55 PM PST by cogitator
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