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To: Dog Gone
Count the number of times slavery is given as a reason for secession.
http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html
3 posted on 01/26/2007 6:09:45 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Count the number of times slavery is given as a reason for secession.

Slavery = economics. The war was fought over taxes and money issues which included slavery and all of which were rooted in states' rights, but the war would have never been fought over slavery alone. The North fought the war to preserve the union and keep the tax revenues from the South. The fact that many Northerners wanted to see the slaves free gave more political leverage to the Northern war effort, but that issue took a back seat to the preservation of the union.

World-wide, most whites of that day felt superior to blacks. I believe if the economic/industrial structure of the North and South were switched, the war would have still been fought and the North would have been the side condoning slavery.

11 posted on 01/26/2007 6:25:49 PM PST by Ode To Ted Kennedys Liver (Senate Republicans' Motto: Quit while you're ahead.|| Democrats' Motto: Going nowhere fast!)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Reading the articles of dissolution by the several southern states from the Union I am struck by the duplicity of that same Federal government which forced Southern succession. Surely slavery was an evil institution even in its day. No amount of economic rationale or racial stratification could suffice to justify slavery’s legitimacy on moral grounds. Slavery was an abomination in the face of all that was sacred and holy, even in our very own Constitution. Notwithstanding the political maneuverings of slave owner states to legitimize their perfidy by legal means, slavery could not be tolerated.
It is astounding, given the expenditure of blood and high rhetoric to the protection of one of the most maligned and dependent classes in our nation, negro slaves, that those same high minded federalists should for nearly half a century cause to exist a slaughter of innocents that renders slavery by comparison a benign and trivial human rights violation.
Abortion, the wholesale slaughter of innocents in their absolute most dependent condition, is held a high holy right by the same sanctimonious butchers who drove us into a war between the states.
If the right of a woman to control every function of her body is absolute even when it necessitates the violent and forced killing of another wholly dependent upon her, then is not rape equally justifiable as the right of a man to control every function of his body even when it necessitates the violent and forced insemination of a woman? Are not these two acts of equal merit? Are not these two acts utterly depraved?
Is not a federal government that destroys the economic foundation of an entire region for moral reasons and then destroys tens of millions of citizens in the womb for political gain a disdainful, worthless and futile government?
There can be no greater evil than this, that millions may be murdered for the further political entrenchment of a ruling class.


60 posted on 01/26/2007 8:18:30 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Count the number of times slavery is given as a reason for secession. http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html

I count exactly none.

The reason given, over and over again, is the Federal government taking more power than it Constitutionally has, as evidenced by the issue of slavery.

It's a fine point, but an important one.

176 posted on 01/29/2007 10:31:28 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Doesn't matter.
The question isn't slavery, the question is the right to secede. Most states adopted the Constitution but specifically reserved the right to secede later.


179 posted on 01/29/2007 10:51:09 AM PST by Little Ray
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