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Radical cleric calls for Islamic utopia
ninemsn.com.au ^ | 28 January 2007

Posted on 01/27/2007 10:24:24 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

A radical Muslim cleric has urged hundreds of supporters meeting in Sydney's south-west to join a global push to create an Islamic utopia.

Indonesian firebrand cleric Ismail Yusanto outlined his plan for instituting Sharia law, the absolute form of Islam, to a crowd of about 500 people gathered at the Khilafah Conference in Lakemba.

The meeting was organised by the Australian arm of the extremist group Hizb ut-Tahrir, a group widely known for its anti-democratic, anti-Semitic views.

The group believes that it can reduce suffering around the globe by introducing Sharia law and creating an Islamic utopia.

The NSW government has called on the Commonwealth to follow several European and Middle Eastern countries and ban the group.

Dr Yusanto called on followers to denounce capitalism, warning that if Islam was not followed in his Islamic super-state, jihad would follow.

From the nationalisation of utilities for the on-going funding of a jihadist army to fighting off an ensuing American-led invasion, he told the audience never to let pessimism enter their minds when seeking a utopian state of Islam not seen since 1924.

"Once the program is ready it must be implemented as soon as possible," Dr Yusanto said.

"Once successful, the new order would be just the beginning of the new era in the application of Islamic ideology.

The cleric went on to remind his listeners of the ultimate sacrifice in achieving a utopian Islamic state.

"There is no victory and glory without sacrifice and hard work," he said.

"No pain no gain."

Hizb ut-Tahrir is already banned in several European and Middle Eastern countries.

It has also been linked to the 2005 London bombings.

NSW Premier Morris Iemma called on federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock to join countries including Britain and Germany and ban the group.

"This is not a case of someone being different, someone advocating a different point of view," he told Sky News.

"This is an organisation that is basically saying that it wants to declare war on Australia, our values and our people. That's the big difference.

"And that's why I believe that they are just beyond the pale, enough is enough and it's time for the Commonwealth to review this organisation's status and take the lead from other countries and ban them."

But federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said government agencies were monitoring Hizb ut-Tahrir, although its activities in Australia did not warrant it being banned.

"Proscription of terrorist organisations is an issue that is dealt with by the Commonwealth after a referral of powers from the states," Mr Ruddock said.

Opposition immigration spokesman Tony Burke called on newly appointed Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews to consider cancelling Dr Yusanto's visa.

"There are clear character provisions in the immigration act that mean that if the government didn't want Ismail Yusanto here it could have stopped him from coming," he told reporters.

"The only reason we have someone in western Sydney right now preaching Sharia law is because the federal government chose to allow him to be here.

"My question and my comment to anyone from around the world who hates Australia is simple - if you hate the place, don't come here."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturycrusades; australia; hizbuttahrir; ht; islam; islamisupremacist; islamonazism; islamotopia; ismailyusanto; madmoozie; shariahlaw; sharialaw; whywefight; yusanto
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I feel a deportation coming on...
1 posted on 01/27/2007 10:24:24 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

The Aussies aren't too patient with this kind of nonsense, and I hope they do throw the bast**d out.


2 posted on 01/27/2007 10:28:07 PM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Aussie Dasher

A cancer on western society.


3 posted on 01/27/2007 10:28:21 PM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"A radical Muslim cleric has urged hundreds of supporters meeting in Sydney's south-west to join a global push to create an Islamic utopia."

Better?

4 posted on 01/27/2007 10:29:08 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Why don't they attempt to form "Islamic Utopias" in Muslim lands?
5 posted on 01/27/2007 10:29:39 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ferdinand & Isabella, 1492, Spain


6 posted on 01/27/2007 10:31:31 PM PST by GSlob
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To: BW2221

Er...I think they did.

It didn't work!


7 posted on 01/27/2007 10:31:33 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Dr Yusanto called on followers to denounce capitalism, warning that if Islam was not followed in his Islamic super-state, jihad would follow."

Someone needs to shoot this asswipe.

8 posted on 01/27/2007 10:32:23 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

Very well put!!!


9 posted on 01/27/2007 10:33:54 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: BW2221

What are you implying!?

They have utopia in muslam lands, if you don't think so all that means is you are an infidel.


10 posted on 01/27/2007 10:34:27 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Wait, this is never one of the 'root causes' that lefties bring up to blame us for terrorism.


11 posted on 01/27/2007 10:34:50 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yes, it has been clear to me for a Looooooonnnng time now, that in some cases , the ONLY solution for the agressive loudmouth troublemakers IS deportation. Australia is already so much further advanced the most Western countries whose posture in front of Islam is pathetic craven accommodation. John Howard should go right ahead and take that necessary second step, and start deporting. It would make it that much easier for the UK, Western Europe, Scandinavia, and the US to follow suit.


12 posted on 01/27/2007 10:36:02 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: supremedoctrine

Deportation?

No, Kill him.


13 posted on 01/27/2007 10:37:52 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: P.O.E.; Zack Nguyen; Aussie Dasher

Lookee here. More Democrat, er ... Islamist utopianism


14 posted on 01/27/2007 10:38:19 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Islamic utopia?

Perhaps the bastards could point out a place and time when anything related to "Islam" was utopia by WESTERN standards..

Semper Fi


15 posted on 01/27/2007 10:40:04 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: supremedoctrine

"troublemakers IS deportation."

Any one who belongs to a radical mosque that in any way supports terrorism must be deported with their extended family.


16 posted on 01/27/2007 10:40:14 PM PST by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: supremedoctrine
"John Howard should go right ahead and take that necessary second step, and start deporting. It would make it that much easier for the UK, Western Europe, Scandinavia, and the US to follow suit."

Good idea but I don't see anyone with the balls to do it exept Johon Howard.

17 posted on 01/27/2007 10:53:09 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: BW2221

"Why don't they attempt to form "Islamic Utopias" in Muslim Lands?"


Most Islamics have ALREADY been "spoiled rotten"
just like children, by their Western host countries. The more welfare $$ they receive in the UK, for example, the mouthier and more intimidating they are. If there EVER was a good argument for the cessation of welfare, and life on the dole, it can be found in the utterly absurd tradition of handing it over to Jihadists. It almost could NOT be a more ridiculous situation. The real answer is of course, that ALL Islamic societies are tyrannies, and regardless of their hundreds of billions of petrodollars, the rulers
have no intention of modernizing, building a middle class, UNbanning books, allowing women freedom,etc.etc.---all the things we take for granted in Western democracies. Just as the Socialists want to hijack all the accomplishments and wealth of American society, wealth that ONLY capitalism could have created, so have the Jihadists been infected with this heady fantasy that it is entirely possible to "spread" the riches of Islam all over the world, and establish Sharia Law everywhere. These "people" simply could not be more out of touch with reality. It is time we came down HARD on them. The Socialist thinks that Capitalism is always on its way somehow towards a socialist ideal, as if Capitalism is merely Socialism "with training wheels", the Jihadist thinks secular Western Culture can somehow be railroaded into accepting their version of Utopia, as if it MUST be our most secret and deepest desire we dare not admit to ourselves.Once again, it is time we came down HARD on these a**holes.


18 posted on 01/27/2007 10:54:41 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: Aussie Dasher

My Dear Ismail Yusanto,

Every time I take a dump I will name it "The New Islamic Utopia"..... then I will flush.....


19 posted on 01/27/2007 10:59:17 PM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

This is okay for you boys, but I don't look cute in a burkha.


20 posted on 01/27/2007 11:03:07 PM PST by Fairview
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To: All

ON THE NET...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1761584/posts?page=1637#1637


21 posted on 01/27/2007 11:06:59 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Aussie Dasher
The group believes that it can reduce suffering around the globe by introducing Sharia law and creating an Islamic utopia.

OK... show me a place under sharia law that doesn't have ~more~ suffering than before.

I'll wait.

22 posted on 01/27/2007 11:11:17 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius

You'll be waiting a bloody long time!!!


23 posted on 01/27/2007 11:13:20 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: supremedoctrine

Once again, it is time we came down HARD on these a**holes.

I support that. I hope more people realize that and we have to start to.... the sooner the better.


24 posted on 01/27/2007 11:13:57 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ......efg and dilligaf?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Islamic utopia.......

is'nt that an oxymoron!


25 posted on 01/27/2007 11:14:37 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

heheh... roger that.


26 posted on 01/27/2007 11:14:54 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Islamic utopia"

Oxymoron.

27 posted on 01/27/2007 11:15:05 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist
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To: Aussie Dasher

If this happened in America, the Government would treat them like the KKK... or not.


28 posted on 01/27/2007 11:32:52 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: BW2221

Why don't they attempt to form "Islamic Utopias" in Muslim lands?

They already are. Didn't you notice.


29 posted on 01/27/2007 11:33:43 PM PST by generalhammond
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ok. Let's reason our way through this.

This guy professes belief in Islam.

He wants to be in an Islamic paradise.

The fastest path to paradise, it says in the Koran I keep in my outhouse, is martyrdom.

So make him happy. Kill him.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


30 posted on 01/27/2007 11:44:58 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Kitchener faced a 'Mahdi Army' too... how'd that work out?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Islamic utopia; now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.


31 posted on 01/27/2007 11:50:54 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Utopia= ?? no, and ?????, place. "no place" or "place that does not exist" or "no where"

Utopia was written as satire. Utopia is a joke; unfortunately, wingnuts that think it possible kill millions in the process of realization that it doesn't exist.


32 posted on 01/28/2007 12:00:17 AM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Aussie Dasher

They can go claim their utopia in 72 virgins. Ya gotta die first though.


33 posted on 01/28/2007 12:03:02 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: sully777

guess the greek font became ????

ou + topos
u + topia
no + place


34 posted on 01/28/2007 12:03:20 AM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: generalhammond
Look, here's a typical islamic utopia!!!
35 posted on 01/28/2007 12:11:45 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Aussie Dasher

"Fireband" is Arabic for "raving maniac"?


36 posted on 01/28/2007 12:13:05 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What is it with the media calling all these idiots, the Firebrand??


37 posted on 01/28/2007 12:25:56 AM PST by alaskamomma
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To: alaskamomma

I much prefer "former resident"!!!!


38 posted on 01/28/2007 12:42:41 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

This is coming to our shores.........Soon..
Let's hope that we never surrender like they have in Europe...
The Aussies I have faith, in...


39 posted on 01/28/2007 12:50:10 AM PST by alaskamomma
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To: Aussie Dasher; Fair Go
NSW Premier Morris Iemma called on federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock to join countries including Britain and Germany and ban the group.

Iemma just went up a big notch in my estimation.

40 posted on 01/28/2007 1:18:00 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

An Islamic utopia would be a world without Islam.


41 posted on 01/28/2007 1:20:24 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Salem

They are ant-capitalist, they hate Western "imperialism" and they want to nationalize things and create a utopia. They sound like good little socialists. Oh, goody, they are "religious" too! I bet they would be welcomed at any "peace" march.


42 posted on 01/28/2007 1:21:03 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Iemma has an election in 7 weeks. He's not stupid...


43 posted on 01/28/2007 1:27:23 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

HA! I thought that, too.


44 posted on 01/28/2007 1:29:26 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Mr Iemma said he was looking forward to going head to head with Sheik Hilaly. "I'm confident the majority of my electorate, including the majority of Muslim constituents, would back my views every day," he said.

In Lakemba, the Muslim community makes up nearly 13 per cent (8264) of the electorate. Mr Iemma won 64.21 per cent (24,060) of the 39,093 votes cast in the 2003 election.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/01/20/1169096030968.html


45 posted on 01/28/2007 1:32:25 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

An Islamic utopia. Baloney. It's about jealousy and the desire for power. They are insanely jealous of the West. They've had so many generations to create something for themselves and are incapable of it, so all they can do is focus on destroy those who can accomplish something for themselves in this world. Send them and their families back where they came from. Since they can do is kill, let them kill each other.


46 posted on 01/28/2007 1:35:50 AM PST by Mack Truck
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To: Fred Nerks

The non-Muslim vote is over 87%. I know where my money would be!!!!


47 posted on 01/28/2007 1:36:08 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Islamic utopia translates to open sewer...


48 posted on 01/28/2007 1:38:45 AM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Has Hilaly returned from Egypt? I've lost track.


49 posted on 01/28/2007 1:45:28 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yep. Got back this week. The local moozies have told him to keep a low profile. As if!!!!!! LOL!


50 posted on 01/28/2007 1:47:05 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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