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Oregon, other states, consider end run around Electoral College
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| January 29, 2007
| julia silverman
Posted on 01/29/2007 7:40:26 AM PST by seetheman
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To: AndyTheBear
"Not strictly true"Oh, I agree that their vote would be counted in the popular total, but when your vote is effectively nullified by the illegal voters alone, it becomes a "whatever they want" situation, as is the case here.
To: Diana in Wisconsin
"But, nobody ever listens to me. :("That's okay, the Hildabeast, from her background, knows how to deal with bad men.......
To: traditional1
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01/30/2007 5:19:12 AM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: traditional1
"So, we just cave in to the socialists willingly? No stomach for freedom?"
Where did I say that?
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posted on
01/30/2007 5:41:57 AM PST
by
Wyatt's Torch
(I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
To: Wyatt's Torch
"Nobody has the guts to do it. Not in our nature anymore."Sounded like a subjective answer to me, where "our" is inclusive of oneself.
To: seetheman
But Oregon's status could change under a pending bill in the Legislature that would award the state's seven electoral votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote nationally, regardless of who wins the state.This is completely illegal.
Thusly, Democrats embrace it.
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posted on
01/30/2007 7:18:29 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(You are not your mind. You are not your emotions. You are not your pain. All you are is love.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Cold comfort, Eh? ;)"Yup
To: traditional1
Here's an idea: In Republican-led states, send up some legislation that -- whoever wins the state vote -- the electoral votes go to the most popular Republican.
Makes as much sense as this legislation.
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posted on
01/30/2007 7:20:00 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(You are not your mind. You are not your emotions. You are not your pain. All you are is love.)
To: seetheman
The electoral college and the means of its implementation have served us well since the founding fathers put it in place. It was chosen in this manner for a reason and individual states chosing a different method sounds un-constitutional.
Nothing good can come of this ill conceived movement by liberals.
To: traditional1
You left out the "Nice to ponder"...as in, "it's the right thing to do but"...it will never happen because the rest of the people (i.e. the vast majority that does not include me) don't care enough to go through the hardship required. We are soft as a nation.
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01/30/2007 7:29:49 AM PST
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Wyatt's Torch
(I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
To: Wyatt's Torch
"We are soft as a nation"My point is, the Red States are MAJORITY not soft; it's the Blue States (especially the really solidly-Blue States like Kalifornia, New York, and those with inner-city dependent-on-gubmint handouts places) that are "soft" on self-determinance, and HARD on keeping entitlements flowing.
THAT is the state of the Union, today.....
To: traditional1
I understand all of that and agree. I just wonder how many are actually willing to pick up a gun and fight the government.
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01/30/2007 10:46:23 AM PST
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Wyatt's Torch
(I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
To: Wyatt's Torch
"I just wonder how many are actually willing to pick up a gun and fight the government"That's why the major push for gun control: disarm the populace, to avoid the civilian resistance.
At some not-too-distant point, I believe it may come to actually finding out how many value their freedom enough to fight for it. We know the leftists (about nearly 1/2 the voting population, at least), wouldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, but would lite candles and sing Kumbaya....
To: Congressman Billybob
The Constitution is explicit that the election MUST be held on a single day. The act of voting must occur on one day, but counting the votes and assigning the electors accordingly can take much longer, all the way up to the day the electors deliver their votes in person in Washington DC.
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posted on
02/07/2007 11:12:21 AM PST
by
ctdonath2
(The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
To: ctdonath2
No, "assigning the Electors" does not take time. See the history of the election of 1888. Congress can decide, as it did then, that certain Electors were wrongly chosen, and accept others. But no one has the power to change the already-cast vote of a single Elector.
This attempt to change the Constitution without amending it, is a fraud, plain and simple.
John / Billybob
To: seetheman
This would be idiotic; that basically means all of the state's voters are
slaves to what the rest of the nation thinks. Their votes count for nothing compared to the rest of the nation.
I guess idiotic ideas are part and parcel of the Democrat party nowadays, so that pretty much explains the reasoning.
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02/07/2007 11:24:33 AM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
To: seetheman
Oregon Ping Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.
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02/08/2007 9:45:21 AM PST
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Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
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Oregon Ping Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.
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02/08/2007 9:47:05 AM PST
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Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Congressman Billybob
If the legislatures of a majority of states are dumb enough to go for this gimmick, the Supreme Court will slap it down. Call me cynical, but I wouldn't bet on it, Congressman Billybob.
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02/08/2007 9:59:57 AM PST
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sionnsar
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