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UN braced for clash with Russia on Kosovo (Russia defending Christians, US defending...UN?)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2560496,00.html ^

Posted on 01/29/2007 4:19:30 PM PST by kronos77

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To: Southack
Yes, but ignoring one entire side of a war has seldom been considered clever.

Especially if your side is the one which lost the war.

Yet Serbian politicians recently put forth a constitution which contained a clause concerning Kosovo which they knew was beyond their power to enforce and would soon be rendered absurd by events on the ground. And since they haven't communicated to their electorate what we've been telling them for the last 6 years, they've now got a constitution which will keep them out of NATO and the EU until they amend it.

Par for the course for the Serbs, unfortunately.

51 posted on 01/31/2007 9:33:49 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Keeping Serbia out of the EU or out of NATO is no big deal, as no shooting war would erupt over such a matter.

The same can't be said for taking one of their cities, though you seem flippant about it for some reason...even anxious or gleeful for the vent to occur.

An odd behavior. Are you willing to explain your background (e.g. are you French or Muslim or anti-NATO) in regard to why you would rush so joyfully into yet another European war?


52 posted on 01/31/2007 9:52:19 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Are you willing to explain your background (e.g. are you French or Muslim or anti-NATO) in regard to why you would rush so joyfully into yet another European war?

Never been anything more or less than an American, and I refer you back to post #34, #43, and #45.

Enough already.

53 posted on 01/31/2007 10:06:57 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Well, I'm out of guesses. How do *you* explain why you want Kosovo to be taken from Serbia even at the cost of war?


54 posted on 01/31/2007 10:11:15 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
There ya go - just keep asking the same question over and over, regardless of how many times it's been addressed.

It'll make you look smart.

55 posted on 01/31/2007 10:35:03 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

It's a question that needs to be addressed. Why do you want a city taken from another country at the risk of war?

What motivates you?

It's an unusual position for someone to take, yet you've taken it on enthusiastically.

So it shouldn't surprise you that it evokes legitimate questions.

Perhaps you simply don't want to answer it, though.

Pity.


56 posted on 01/31/2007 10:37:17 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
["What motivates you (Hoplite)? "]

So, I see, you're starting to learn - that's good.
57 posted on 01/31/2007 11:44:56 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Hoplite
["Your premises are flawed, and your conclusions suffer as a result."]

You might want to look at your own premises and their subsequent conclusions...But of course, that would be far too much for someone of my caliber ask...wouldn't it?
58 posted on 01/31/2007 11:54:41 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Southack

"Are you willing to explain your background (e.g. are you French or Muslim or anti-NATO) in regard to why you would rush so joyfully into yet another European war?"

No, he's a moron, plain and simple....
Par for the course for Hoplite, unfortunately.


59 posted on 02/01/2007 9:47:16 PM PST by Serb29
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To: Hoplite; Southack
The Serbs will fight again for Kosovo.

With what? A bunch of yahoos with AK-47s?

Do not be so quick to dismiss the Serb Army.

The Serbian military currently has over 800 tanks, 1200 APC's, 2500 artillery pieces, countless anti-tank guns and missiles, and numerous anti-aircraft missiles and guns. While a lot of this equipment is old when compared to American weaponry, the Serb Army is still one of the most powerful in that corner of the globe.

I would much rather have them on our side than have them fighting against us.

60 posted on 02/01/2007 10:18:11 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I see storms on the horizon.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

"I would much rather have them on our side than have them fighting against us."

...yes, because unlike the muslims, they wouldn't be plotting on how to destroy us while we support their cause.


61 posted on 02/01/2007 10:24:21 PM PST by Serb29
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To: Serb29
Good point.

I seem to remember reading an article a few months ago that one of the main problems the Serbian military is facing is a severe shortage of fuel, particularly aviation fuel, thanks mostly to the fact that none of the Middle Eastern countries will sell to them. They have to get all of their fuel supplies from Romania and there is a limited amount available. Do you know if this is true?

62 posted on 02/01/2007 10:31:06 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I see storms on the horizon.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Wow - they've almost got as much junk as Saddam had, and have proven just as combat effective in their recent outings.

Color me unimpressed.

63 posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:06 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
"Wow - they've almost got as much junk as Saddam had, and have proven just as combat effective in their recent outings."

Saddam fought Iran's million-man army to a standstill and conquered Kuwait. Likewise, Serbia defeated its Balkan enemies recently.

That Serbia and Iraq fell to U.S. super-power might is hardly a surprise, but the U.S. isn't going to be fighting Serbia this time around.

Moreover, Serbia is capable of projecting guerilla power further than was Iraq...and is more capable of a domestic IED campaign than are today's Iraqi insurgents.

Not that any of this matters to you, for some bizarre reason. You seem anxious for the next Balkan war...a very, very odd position to take for an "American."

64 posted on 02/01/2007 11:36:38 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Serbia defeated its Balkan enemies recently.

Sure. Whatever.

And Kosovo is a city.

65 posted on 02/02/2007 10:07:29 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

If it hadn't been for your hero, Bumbling Bill Clinton, your Jihadists would have been lost their land grab in Serbia.

But the story won't be over until Kosovo is fully Serbian again, and there's nothing you Dhimmis can do to change that.


66 posted on 02/03/2007 8:27:32 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Hoplite; Bokababe; Southack; LjubivojeRadosavljevic

current Kosovo negotiations as the "Final Status".




NO Hoppie/Helot - more like fetal status.

As time goes on, independence for yet another terror state seems thankfully futile. The fascist admirer Ahtisaari cannot force his will on the Serbian people. He cannot ignore Metohija and the perilous predicament it finds itself in once again.

The US and in particular the State department needs to reformulate the way it sees and processes the world: focus less on temporary fixes in order to advance international bonds traders fantasies but concentrate more on being a wise steward of the world taking into account a complex psychological/historical framework of events.


67 posted on 02/03/2007 10:24:24 AM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: eleni121

Our chief Dhimmi is hoping for a Final Solution to the Serbian Problem.


68 posted on 02/03/2007 1:23:44 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: BnBlFlag

It's allways nice to see smart man's post.
Respect.


69 posted on 02/28/2007 10:19:39 AM PST by DeadKenny (BLOODY KGB SPY)
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