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Iraqi family caught in Texas crossing border illegally
KTRE ^ | 1/30/07 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/30/2007 3:34:43 PM PST by mdittmar

HARLINGEN, Texas Customs officials in South Texas say an Iraqi family was caught within miles of the Rio Grande after crossing the border illegally. The family of five was detained Saturday night near U-S Highway 281 in Pharr.

Border Patrol spokesman Oscar Saldana says computer searches revealed no ties to terrorism.

Saldana says the family remains in Customs and Immigration Enforcement custody while being processed for deportation.

Saldana confirmed the capture after an anonymous tip was phoned in to the Valley Morning Star newspaper.

He said he could not disclose whether there had been similar apprehensions of Iraqi nationals within the sector.

He also could not say whether the family claimed they were in the U-S for religious reasons, as did eleven Iraqis caught with illegal passports last week in northern Mexico.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration
He also could not say whether the family claimed they were in the U-S for religious reasons, as did eleven Iraqis caught with illegal passports last week in northern Mexico.

Iraqi families coming across our porous border, or are terrorists coming across our porous border?

Call me a pessimist.

1 posted on 01/30/2007 3:34:47 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Iraqis cross the border all the time. Refugees mostly.


2 posted on 01/30/2007 3:37:18 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: mdittmar

There have been several of these stories recently. Were these the Iraqi Christians, or is this another family?


3 posted on 01/30/2007 3:37:32 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: mdittmar

I gotta admit that I'm a lot more trusting of a family. However, terrorists have proven that they don't mind killing their own families.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 3:38:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


5 posted on 01/30/2007 3:41:12 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: bnelson44

It is the other part that we should be worried about for national security reasons and in addition to the immigration issue.


6 posted on 01/30/2007 3:41:19 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: mdittmar
This is just the five they caught. Who knows who else has entered the US this way? (And what they might have been carrying...) How we can ever hope to have a secure homeland and allow these porous borders is beyond me.
7 posted on 01/30/2007 3:44:48 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: mdittmar

Mr. Bush, Build that wall!


8 posted on 01/30/2007 3:45:33 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Hunter '08)
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To: mdittmar

Ship them back to Iraq!!!!


9 posted on 01/30/2007 3:49:44 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: mdittmar

Yeah like the ones who took their families to the fight to get in to kill the religous pilgims. Bring the women and kids to give themselves cover. By the same token, I'd bring my kids to get to this country if I wasn't already a citizen. But then again my mother was a LEGAL immigrant.


10 posted on 01/30/2007 3:52:23 PM PST by stumpy
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To: proudofthesouth
Ship them back to Iraq!!!!

Dang straight. Give 'em the opportunity to get their purple fingers...whether they want them or not. Dern Iraqis, who do they think they are?!?

11 posted on 01/30/2007 3:57:49 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: mdittmar
Here's Dad with his son carrying their fishing poles.


12 posted on 01/30/2007 3:57:50 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: stumpy; All
I seem to remember there was a young family with a baby that tried to board a plane in England recently.

How soon we forget.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 4:14:23 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

we're ALL JUST PILGRIMS...can't we all just get along?

(those would get some big muskies.)


14 posted on 01/30/2007 4:24:28 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: mdittmar

Well if you can get elephants accompanies by a mariachi (sp?) band across the rio grande like that rep from PA did why not an Iraqi family ?


15 posted on 01/30/2007 4:57:45 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: MizSterious

something like guarding the front door, while the back door is wide open....


16 posted on 01/30/2007 5:00:16 PM PST by thinking
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To: cripplecreek
I gotta admit that I'm a lot more trusting of a family. However, terrorists have proven that they don't mind killing their own families.

Terrorists travel, live and fight with their families.

They're described as collateral damage or civilian casualties by the media.
17 posted on 01/30/2007 5:02:38 PM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: mdittmar

The bush legacy


18 posted on 01/30/2007 5:03:59 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: humblegunner; Allegra; TheMom; Xenalyte; thackney; Eaker; stevie_d_64; TXBSAFH; Axiom Nine; ...

ping


19 posted on 01/30/2007 5:06:08 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: cripplecreek
What would be a better disguise for a terrorist to cross the border, short of being rolled across in a wheelchair? I have no good feelings at all about aliens of any nationality crossing our border. IMHO this is the single biggest threat to our country today.
20 posted on 01/30/2007 5:11:57 PM PST by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: mdittmar; neodad; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; showme_the_Glory; curmudgeonII; Jedi Master Pikachu; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


21 posted on 01/30/2007 5:28:40 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas - beyond your expectations!)
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To: WhiteGuy
The bush legacy

LOL. Yah. Those borders were ~so~ secure under Clinton until Bush opened them up?

You guys crack me up.

22 posted on 01/30/2007 5:35:01 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius

LOL. Yah. Those borders were ~so~ secure under Clinton until Bush opened them up?

It's not a laughing matter.


23 posted on 01/30/2007 5:43:38 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Ramius

He has had six years and what has he "actually" accomplished?

In Houston you cannot swing a dead cat without hitting an illegal alien or two.


24 posted on 01/30/2007 5:54:03 PM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: mdittmar
Iraqi families coming across our porous border, or are terrorists coming across our porous border?

Relax, El Presidente Jorge says not to worry.

25 posted on 01/30/2007 6:02:40 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: mdittmar
Put them on a Military Transport back to Iraq..

sw

26 posted on 01/30/2007 6:06:48 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: gubamyster

Bttt!


27 posted on 01/30/2007 6:14:23 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Eaker
In Houston you cannot swing a dead cat without hitting an illegal alien or two.

An intriguing method. Have you told the border patrol about this idea?

OK... seriously: of course there's a huge problem with illegals. I know that. We ALL know that. This is not news to anyone. But to sit here day after day and pretend that *nothing* has been done about it is disingenuous and frankly unfair to a whole lot of people that have in fact been working harder than ever to secure this country.

Of course it's not fixed. But the border patrol is about tripled from a few years ago, interceptions are increasing and the borders are getting better, not worse.

One of the biggest problems comes right back around on US, people like here at FR. All this feigned outrage at any sort of guest worker program is one of the bigger roadblocks to making any real improvement from here.

Like it or not there is in fact a job surplus in this country. Whether its agriculture, hotels, restaurants... it really is true that we've got more jobs than citizens. Lucky for us there's a hardworking work force handy and close by. It makes absolute sense to come up with some system where all those jobs can be filled by legal workers, cutting all those people out of border crossing enforcement in the proces...

We all know that the overwhelming number of illegal border crossers are coming here for jobs they've probably aready got lined up before they come. Legalize that process. Relieve the border patrol of that burden... cut down the number of illegal crossings to a far, far, smaller number-- a number that the border patrol could undoubtedly be much more successful in catching. Cut it down to a more manageable level overnight.

My .02

But it won't happen. We won't let congress do anything like that, because we want revenge on the illegals already here. So we won't fix it.

28 posted on 01/30/2007 6:17:58 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius
We all know that the overwhelming number of illegal border crossers are coming here for jobs they've probably aready got lined up before they come.

They can do it legally or they can go to hell. I'll pay $6.00 for a head of lettuce for two reasons. First, it will be picked by workers who are here legally and hopefully ones who aren't crapping on the crops.

Oh, they can also show proof of insurance or pay in advance at the hospital.

The 50% of students that drop out of HISD and other school districts could do these jobs if welfare was denied.

I could go on all night.

29 posted on 01/30/2007 6:30:10 PM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: Eaker
They can do it legally or they can go to hell.

They should be able to do it legally.

30 posted on 01/30/2007 6:36:53 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: mdittmar

We won't do a damn thing about it until their's a mushroom cloud.


31 posted on 01/30/2007 6:38:06 PM PST by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: Ramius
They should be able to do it legally.

People do it everyday.

Just not the criminals crossing illegally. The ones that came here illegally should lose this opportunity because they have already thumbed their snotty noses at my country.

32 posted on 01/30/2007 6:45:21 PM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: Eaker

Yup. And that's why it ain't getting fixed. Retribution is valued higher than a more secure border.


33 posted on 01/30/2007 6:50:15 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; mdittmar

34 posted on 01/30/2007 6:55:23 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch

Now you're talkin'.


35 posted on 01/30/2007 7:08:01 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Ramius
Building a secure wall has nothing to do with retribution.

It has to do with security. Bush's compound has a fence and guards as does the Whitehouse. If walls don't work why do they have them?

I have posted the link below to some of the open border creeps here so many times I now no longer bother to ping them because they cannot answer but they do try to get me banned.

Do you think that the US should adopt Mexico's immigration policy?


Info on Mexican Immigration

This is an honest question. One that the OBL will not answer. Because they cannot. Perhaps you can. I appreciate the civil discourse.

36 posted on 01/30/2007 7:09:12 PM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: Eaker

Mexico's immigration policy doesn't fit us. They don't have the draw of excess jobs that we do. We do actually need immigrant labor, and we need far more than is presently legally allowed. We need to develop a system to legally allow in, and track, far more than we do. It wouldn't be that tough.

A good fence is part of the solution, but honestly only a small part. There are too many ways over, under and around a fixed barrier like that. There needs to be more open and honest working with employers to enable them to get the legal employees they need and enforcement when they break the rules. If we make the process of hiring legal immigrants more workable it makes sense that the illegal hiring will start to dry up.

We need to make the legal process better and more accessible, and this will serve to turn the flood of illegals into a trickle. Then enforcement at the border becomes that much more effective.

It is true, though, that our border enforcement is in fact quite a bit better than it was only a few years ago.
There was a story here in Seattle last week that was intriguing. Perhaps you've heard of a variety of pot sold on the street called "BC Bud". This is a particularly strong and high quality marijuana that's been grown up in Canada, in British Columbia, for over a decade or two, and smuggled over the border into WA, OR... and points south.

Turns out that over the last few years, now most of the BC Bud is actually grown in Washington. That's right... the increased border security since 9/11 has made the smuggling too much of a hassle and was interfering with the operations, so they've moved most of the operations into Washington and now it is mostly domestic.

This is actually good news, at least from the standpoint of concern over the borders. We're doing something that appears to be working. No, it ain't fixed yet, but we should recognize the successes, while we're vigilant about the problems.


37 posted on 01/30/2007 7:27:26 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius
Mexico has an unanounced shoot to kill policy on their southern border by their military. Why can we not have one?

Bottom line for me is illegal = no. Go through the process = possibly yes.

Go to Home Depot and hang with them and you will see that these are the drunks killing Americans, not Brain Surgeons picking fruit. Many, if not most are scum.

I'll do the work alone rather than let these crminals know where I live. They gave me gang sign signs and crotch grabs when I drove off.

They are scum.

38 posted on 01/30/2007 7:51:42 PM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: mdittmar
Iraqi families coming across our porous border, or are terrorists coming across our porous border? Call me a pessimist.

Is there room on the USS Pessimist for me?

39 posted on 01/31/2007 3:25:24 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: pax_et_bonum

Yes! Of course!!! Brilliant!!!

A family of terrorists!!!

Now why didn't I think of that!!!

hehehe...


40 posted on 01/31/2007 3:56:22 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: cripplecreek
"I gotta admit that I'm a lot more trusting of a family."


Don't be too trusting. There are more than likely, 2nd and 3rd generation terrorists living in this country. As I recall, neighbors of the 9-11 hijackers, thought they were pretty normal folks.
41 posted on 01/31/2007 5:14:01 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: MizSterious

Exactly. They only catch a small percentage of those crossing illegally. Thanks George!


42 posted on 01/31/2007 5:18:10 AM PST by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: Eaker
First, it will be picked by workers who are here legally and hopefully ones who aren't crapping on the crops.

LOL! You obviously haven't seen the fully legal, American citizen, native-born farm workers around here. It's crummy work and it gets crummy workers: elderly crack addicts and winos from the Jacksonville skid rows, for example. Plus, many of them are HIV positive, to give you even more of a thrill. One of the labor camp managers down here was even paying them in crack. You think they care about sanitation?

And the gang-banger high school drop outs are not going to do this work - well, not until they turn into elderly AIDS infected crack or crank addicts, if they live that long.

We need more legal workers, and that's simply how it is, and how it always has been with immigration in this country, from the days of the Irish immigrants on foward. Our quotas are unrealistically low, mainly to satisfy people like you, who don't like immigrants in general and appear to hate Mexicans in particular, and the result is that we have created a much bigger problem.

43 posted on 01/31/2007 5:24:19 AM PST by livius
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To: potlatch

Very nice graphic!


44 posted on 01/31/2007 7:01:02 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: freedomfiter2

"Mr. Bush, Build that wall!"

Can't. He's an open borders kinda guy. Nation Security be danged.


45 posted on 01/31/2007 7:18:48 AM PST by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: bnelson44
Oh...LOL!!

And you KNOW this how?

46 posted on 01/31/2007 7:20:13 AM PST by Osage Orange ("The man who most vividly realizes a difficulty is the man most likely to overcome it.")
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To: Kimberly GG

Can't. He's an open borders kinda guy.


No open borders kinda guy will be getting my vote.


47 posted on 01/31/2007 7:30:15 AM PST by freedomfiter2 ("if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great"; de Tocqueville“)
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To: livius
You were making sense until you got here:

Our quotas are unrealistically low, mainly to satisfy people like you, who don't like immigrants in general and appear to hate Mexicans in particular,

You don't know me. I have no problem with Mexicans, I do have a problem with illegal alien scum. If you are the first then fine, if you are the second get the hell out of the USA.

48 posted on 01/31/2007 9:15:15 AM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Thank you!


49 posted on 01/31/2007 2:43:28 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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