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"Gov. Crist to recommend ditching touch-screen machines"
South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | 30 January 2007 | Anthony Man

Posted on 01/31/2007 2:18:31 AM PST by lifelong_republican

"...Gov. Charlie Crist is preparing to recommend that the controversial touch-screen voting machines used in Broward, Palm Beach and 13 other Florida counties be scrapped and replaced with optical scanners that would count paper ballots..."

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: america; americans; charliecrist; crist; dirtydemtricks; election; electiontricks; fl; representation; touchscreenmachines; touchscreenvoting; vote; votingmachines
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1 posted on 01/31/2007 2:18:33 AM PST by lifelong_republican
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To: lifelong_republican
The RATS wont like it as it was suggested by a Republican.
2 posted on 01/31/2007 2:34:50 AM PST by bikerman (Loud pipes save lives)
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To: lifelong_republican

Duh - but what a waste of taxpayer money to begin with...


3 posted on 01/31/2007 2:43:15 AM PST by DB
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To: bikerman

You are right.

The corrupt Democrats will dislike this also because it will take away their most convenient and concealable method of election subversion.


4 posted on 01/31/2007 2:44:00 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: DB

You make an excellent point, of course. These crappy electronics are extremely overpriced to buy and maintain.

They're selling the equivalent of a junk 386 for over $4000 ...


5 posted on 01/31/2007 2:45:41 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: lifelong_republican

The Dem's dont like these machines because they make it harder to commit voter fraud.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 3:15:27 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: lifelong_republican
I like that one. Electronic voting without hardcopy is the one issue that I and my old bud at UF agree on. Of course he would love the măchines if programming were to be reserved to the DNC.
7 posted on 01/31/2007 3:18:31 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: driftdiver

The electronics make it far easier to commit more massive vote fraud with much less risk of detection.


8 posted on 01/31/2007 3:44:41 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: arthurus

You make an excellent point about how some people may believe they'd have the advantage in subverting elections with the electronics. Even if the machines are built by those we trust, those we don't trust will be able to manipulate them.


9 posted on 01/31/2007 3:47:22 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: lifelong_republican

There are arguments to be made on either side of the touch screen voting machines. Dems in south Florida proved in 2000 that they lack the skills to properly mark a paper ballot. However, by the same token, despite the fact that touch screens have shown a greater propensity for fraud since they don't maintain any kind of paper trail (whose dumb idea was that!?), the Dems haven't gravitated to them either.

Crist is in a no-win situation with the touch screen machines, but I daresay that, in this situation, discretion is the better part of valor and he is probably making the right decision.


10 posted on 01/31/2007 3:59:43 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: lifelong_republican
Exactly. Electronic voting is how Hillary becomes our next president. And maybe our last.
11 posted on 01/31/2007 4:02:00 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: lifelong_republican

"The electronics make it far easier to commit more massive vote fraud with much less risk of detection."

Computers make it easier to do things that is true. They also make it harder if designed properly.

Using paper ballots doesn't eliminate the problem and makes it virtually impossible to detect.


12 posted on 01/31/2007 4:05:59 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: DustyMoment
Dems in south Florida proved in 2000 that they lack the skills to properly mark a paper ballot.

No such thing remotely happened. Paper ballots were overall properly marked. Florida 2000 was merely a contrived exercise in getting people to accept even clamor for electronic voting so that Hillary could become president due to massive electronic vote fraud. You fell for the Clintons scam, hook line & sinker.
13 posted on 01/31/2007 4:06:03 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima
No such thing remotely happened.

You slept through that period of time, didn't you? I lived there.

14 posted on 01/31/2007 4:19:00 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
No, I followed that very closely. You may have been physically closer to the scene, but I was using my brain. You apparently bought into the whole "butterfly ballot" farce. It was just a big scam to make people doubt paper ballots and insist on the supposed "security" of electronic voting.

Electronic voting is how Hillary will become president. And gullible people like you are her enablers.
15 posted on 01/31/2007 4:26:07 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: lifelong_republican

Do away with the silent vote I say.


16 posted on 01/31/2007 4:27:59 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Southaven Mississippi Freeper)
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To: DustyMoment
There are arguments to be made on either side of the touch screen voting machines. Dems in south Florida proved in 2000 that they lack the skills to properly mark a paper ballot.

This is not what happened in Florida. The truth is there were Democrats who were willing to let themselves be portrayed as too stupid to correctly mark a paper ballot but if you read the evidence chronicled by Free Republic, the Democrats were using any means they could to steal the election.

The reason they kept recounting was because they were trying to destroy Bush votes and create new ones for Gore. The problem for the Democrats was that they had underestimated the number of votes that Bush received and they had trouble making up the difference.

It's worth the futher investigation.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17718

17 posted on 01/31/2007 4:28:55 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: DustyMoment

I agree with you that Crist is making the right decision.

The corrupt Democrats in PA have deliberately forced ballotless elections on the voters because they want to manipulate elections with as much ease and secrecy as possible with the electronics.


18 posted on 01/31/2007 4:50:06 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: Iwo Jima

You are right.

Those who rightly reject such as Hillary are going to have to fight for their right to vote for better candidates, and that fight must involve a ban on ballotless elections.


19 posted on 01/31/2007 4:51:27 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: driftdiver

You can't assume that these computers would be designed correctly. They're also far less reliable than paper.

Nobody is saying that paper would be perfect, but studies have shown that it's more reliable than the electronics.

Tampering with paper is more physically demanding, more difficult to do on a widespread basis, and far easier to detect than tampering with the electronics.


20 posted on 01/31/2007 4:53:25 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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