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Giuliani Would Defeat Hillary in New Jersey (Quinnipiac alert) ^ | 1/31/2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/31/2007 5:46:06 PM PST by Dark Skies

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani is the favourite Republican United States presidential contender for voters in the Garden State, according to a poll by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. 48 per cent of respondents in New Jersey would vote for Giuliani in a head-to-head contest against Democratic New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

In other match-ups, Rodham Clinton holds a one-point edge over Arizona senator John McCain, and a 24-point advantage over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. McCain leads former North Carolina senator John Edwards by six points, and Illinois senator Barack Obama by three points.

In 2004, Democratic nominee John Kerry carried New Jersey’s 15 electoral votes, with 53 per cent of the vote. No Republican has won the Garden State since George H. Bush in 1988.

Incumbent George W. Bush is ineligible for a third term in office. The next United States presidential election is scheduled for November 2008.

Polling Data

If the 2008 election for President were being held today, and the candidates were (the Democrat) and (the Republican), for whom would you vote?

Rudy Giuliani (R) 48% - 41% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R)
John McCain (R) 43% - 44% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R)
Mitt Romney (R) 29% - 53% Hillary Rodham Clinton (R)
John McCain (R) 45% - 39% John Edwards (R)
John McCain (R) 42% - 39% Barack Obama (R)

(sic) re: all the erroneous "(R)" designations.

Source: Quinnipiac University Polling Institute Methodology: Telephone interviews to 1,310 registered Ohio voters, conducted from Jan. 16 to Jan. 22, 2006. Margin of error is 2.7 per cent.

TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008election; corrupt; elections; giuliani; goombah; medialies; rudy
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To: JCEccles

I will back whoever gets the Republican nomination. Guiliani has a lot of work to do. Someone could come forward in the interim that isn't even on the radar yet. I'm starting to take a closer look at Romney. I think he is a lot more conservative than the media portray him.

251 posted on 01/31/2007 9:06:04 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: nopardons; Pharmboy
But he did NOT take any guns away from legally owned gun owners and THAT is the point!

I'm pinging Pharmboy to this comment, as he can personally refute it.

252 posted on 01/31/2007 9:06:16 PM PST by jmc813 (Please check out and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: nopardons
I know when I see it, but since it has been spammed, so many times, I ignore it and put it out of my mind, so off hand, I don't want to say and not be completely accurate.

You just stick your fingers in your ears and say "LALALALALA..."

253 posted on 01/31/2007 9:06:44 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: oceanview

I'd say 6 to 8 frankly. The Democrats have been very cohesive with their electorate the last few elections. They know this time what it takes. And we have NEVER been as divided.

I'm planning on NEVER turning on the news for 8 years if it happens.

254 posted on 01/31/2007 9:08:43 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: oceanview

BTW, I put this soley at the doorstep of the social conservatives.

255 posted on 01/31/2007 9:09:24 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: oceanview
"maybe she could have explained why the pro-life vote, that she assigns paramount importances to - couldn't save Talent, Allen, and Santorum in 2006?"

This was one wierd election. Allen actually lost from Muslims setting a record for voting in Virginia. They turned out in mass....50,000 voted for Webb. Allen lost by 8,000.

256 posted on 01/31/2007 9:10:29 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: nopardons; sport

::: crickets :::

257 posted on 01/31/2007 9:11:20 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
And I think that it more than a "colossal mistake", for anyone to promote some nebulous conservative with no name recognition, no record of any real substance, with less than NO chance of even winning the primary, who has NO hope of EVER getting the financial and political backing, just because he is a CONSERVATIVE.

You have yet to give me a name or names of someone, except Newt and he has far more personal and politician baggage than Rudy has. And he isn't going to run. Newt knows how the game is played. If he REALLY was going to run in the primary, he would NOT wait until next September sometime, to begin to do something about fund raising and getting teams in place.

258 posted on 01/31/2007 9:11:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview; Dead Corpse; Joe Brower
what does the term "well regulated" mean then?

Here is a breakdown of that specific part of the wording of the 2nd Amendment from

Well Regulated

The Random House College Dictionary (1980) gives four definitions for the word "regulate," which were all in use during the Colonial period and one more definition dating from 1690 (Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition, 1989). They are:

1) To control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc.

2) To adjust to some standard or requirement as for amount, degree, etc.

3) To adjust so as to ensure accuracy of operation.

4) To put in good order.

[obsolete sense]

b. Of troops: Properly disciplined. Obs. rare-1.

1690 Lond. Gaz. No. 2568/3 We hear likewise that the French are in a great Allarm in Dauphine and Bresse, not having at present 1500 Men of regulated Troops on that side.

We can begin to deduce what well-regulated meant from Alexander Hamilton's words in Federalist Paper No. 29:

The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, nor a week nor even a month, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry and of the other classes of the citizens to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people and a serious public inconvenience and loss.
        --- The Federalist Papers, No. 29.

Hamilton indicates a well-regulated militia is a state of preparedness obtained after rigorous and persistent training. Note the use of 'disciplining' which indicates discipline could be synonymous with well-trained.

This quote from the Journals of the Continental Congress, 1774-1789 also conveys the meaning of well regulated:

Resolved , That this appointment be conferred on experienced and vigilant general officers, who are acquainted with whatever relates to the general economy, manoeuvres and discipline of a well regulated army.
        --- Saturday, December 13, 1777.
In the passage that follows, do you think the U.S. government was concerned because the Creek Indians' tribal regulations were superior to those of the Wabash or was it because they represented a better trained and disciplined fighting force?
That the strength of the Wabash Indians who were principally the object of the resolve of the 21st of July 1787, and the strength of the Creek Indians is very different. That the said Creeks are not only greatly superior in numbers but are more united, better regulated, and headed by a man whose talents appear to have fixed him in their confidence. That from the view of the object your Secretary has been able to take he conceives that the only effectual mode of acting against the said Creeks in case they should persist in their hostilities would be by making an invasion of their country with a powerful body of well regulated troops always ready to combat and able to defeat any combination of force the said Creeks could oppose and to destroy their towns and provisions.
        --- Saturday, December 13, 1777.
I am unacquainted with the extent of your works, and consequently ignorant of the number or men necessary to man them. If your present numbers should be insufficient for that purpose, I would then by all means advise your making up the deficiency out of the best regulated militia that can be got.
        --- George Washington (The Writings of George Washington, pp. 503-4, (G.P. Putnam & Sons, pub.)(1889))
The above quote is clearly not a request for a militia with the best set of regulations. (For brevity the entire passage is not shown and this quote should not be construed to imply Washington favored militias, in fact he thought little of them, as the full passage indicates.)
But Dr Sir I am Afraid it would blunt the keen edge they have at present which might be keept sharp for the Shawnese &c: I am convinced it would be Attended by considerable desertions. And perhaps raise a Spirit of Discontent not easily Queld amongst the best regulated troops, but much more so amongst men unused to the Yoak of Military Discipline.
        --- Letter from Colonel William Fleming to Col. Adam Stephen, Oct 8, 1774, pp. 237-8. (Documentary History of Dunmore's War, 1774, Wisconsin historical society, pub. (1905))
And finally, a late-17th century comparison between the behavior of a large collection of seahorses and well-regulated soldiers:
One of the Seamen that had formerly made a Greenland Voyage for Whale-Fishing, told us that in that country he had seen very great Troops of those Sea-Horses ranging upon Land, sometimes three or four hundred in a Troop: Their great desire, he says, is to roost themselves on Land in the Warm Sun; and Whilst they sleep, they apppoint one to stand Centinel, and watch a certain time; and when that time's expir'd, another takes his place of Watching, and the first Centinel goes to sleep, &c. observing the strict Discipline, as a Body of Well-regulated Troops
        --- (Letters written from New-England, A. D. 1686. P. 47, John Dutton (1867))

The quoted passages support the idea that a well-regulated militia was synonymous with one that was thoroughly trained and disciplined, and as a result, well-functioning. That description fits most closely with the "to put in good order" definition supplied by the Random House dictionary. The Oxford dictionary's definition also appears to fit if one considers discipline in a military context to include or imply well-trained.

What about the Amendment's text itself? Considering the adjective "well" and the context of the militia clause, which is more likely to ensure the security of a free state, a militia governed by numerous laws (or the proper amount of regulation [depending on the meaning of "well"] ) or a well-disciplined and trained militia? This brief textual analysis also suggests "to put in good order" is the correct interpretation of well regulated, signifying a well disciplined, trained, and functioning militia.

And finally, when regulated is used as an adjective, its meaning varies depending on the noun its modifying and of course the context. For example: well regulated liberty (properly controlled), regulated rifle (adjusted for accuracy), and regulated commerce (governed by regulations) all express a different meaning for regulated. This is by no means unusual, just as the word, bear, conveys a different meaning depending on the word it modifies: bear arms, bear fruit, and bear gifts.

259 posted on 01/31/2007 9:13:00 PM PST by jmc813 (Please check out and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: hosepipe
No, actually I don't; OTOH, you over estimate your own perspicacity.
260 posted on 01/31/2007 9:14:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Spiff

What do you think of Romney?....I've started to take a closer look at him. He is definitely electable.

BTW, you tagline is a candidate killer!

261 posted on 01/31/2007 9:14:47 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: JCEccles

Please explain just why and how there is time to find some great white conservative knight, when Rudy and McCain and Romney have been and are now in the process of nailing down the money men, calling in all of the political chits they can, and putting their teams together.

262 posted on 01/31/2007 9:15:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TheLion
What do you think of Romney?....I've started to take a closer look at him. He is definitely electable.

Read this about Romney

. Not good. He's not as bad as Giuliani, but he's pretty bad. It is quite disturbing that the 3 announced frontrunners are the worst candidates when you hold them up to the actual Republican Party Platform.

263 posted on 01/31/2007 9:18:21 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: BunnySlippers

and when some freepers challenge the social conservatives - I think some of them take it the wrong way. I would be more then happy to see that there was enough of a voting block there, to steamroller the Dems. show me that there are? I'll be more then happy to shutup, if someone can show me that the social conservative voting block is large enough to provide clear margins of victory against the Dems in enough states to win congress, senate, and the presidency.

it isn't large enough. its an important group to be sure, but its not large enough on its own to deliver a win. we need some other voters. The Dems took the hispanic vote 69-31 in 2006. polls show generation Y voters are going 58-42 Dem. Hillary is going to bring out large #s of single young women who would not otherwise vote, in 2008.

if we go up there with a social litmus test pure ticket comprised of 2 unknown, inarticulate white guys - we'll lose. that's my opinion.

264 posted on 01/31/2007 9:21:50 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dark Skies
He looks great!

Really. He's got slimmer ankles than Hillary. And better legs.

265 posted on 01/31/2007 9:22:07 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: jmc813
That's not so. While the 2nd. doesn't mention guns that have had their serial numbers removed, nor other things that make some guns illegal to own, there a lot left out of the Constitution, which is illegal, due to laws.

There isn't ANYTHING at all in the Constitution about marriage; yet there have been laws that made it illegal for inter racial marriage. There's also nothing in the Constitution forbidding brothers to marry sisters; yet that is illegal and unlike the inter racial marriage laws, the prohibition of sibling marriage laws won't be shed.

266 posted on 01/31/2007 9:22:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: jmc813

does the 2nd amendment give you a right to own a howitzer? how about an ICBM?

267 posted on 01/31/2007 9:23:10 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

I'm NOT the one who said that she can't win. :-)

268 posted on 01/31/2007 9:24:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TheLion

She's for Mitt Romney, which makes me wonder WHY she chose him. She really didn't have very good reasons for doing so.

269 posted on 01/31/2007 9:25:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I know.

270 posted on 01/31/2007 9:26:14 PM PST by oceanview
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To: PhiKapMom

It sure does and I'm still waiting to hear just which parts of the MSM are "pushing" Rudy. But all I am hearing is CRICKETS!

271 posted on 01/31/2007 9:26:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Miss Didi

I'll tell you them privately, if you want me to. :-)

272 posted on 01/31/2007 9:28:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dolphy

I know, but he appears to be an obsessive compulsive, who can't do anything but repeat the same weird thing over and over again. *shrugs*

273 posted on 01/31/2007 9:30:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BunnySlippers

Yes, I do. LOL

274 posted on 01/31/2007 9:30:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

It is probably his charisma. Didn't she say something about how he was good at fooling liberals?

275 posted on 01/31/2007 9:31:36 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: nopardons

That was me. ;-)

276 posted on 01/31/2007 9:32:17 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Spiff

Thanks for that info.

277 posted on 01/31/2007 9:34:52 PM PST by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Spiff

Most Republicans are against tax cuts.

Most Republicans are against cutting the size of government.

Most Republicans are against massively lowering welfare rolls and getting rid of double dipper and fraud.

Most Republicans are against censoring filth, passed off as "art" in publicly funded museums.

Most Republicans are against stopping preferential treatment of minority and women owned business deals, as in set aside.

Most Republicans are against getting kids out of terrible schools.

Most Republicans are against putting justices in the mold of Scalia and Roberts and Alito on the SCOTUS.

Most Republicans are against fighting the WOT.


278 posted on 01/31/2007 9:37:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview
does the 2nd amendment give you a right to own a howitzer? how about an ICBM?

I'm about to go to bed, so I don't have time to explain completely, but Google up the difference between "arms" and "artillery" and you'll understand.

279 posted on 01/31/2007 9:38:35 PM PST by jmc813 (Please check out and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: nopardons
I know, but he appears to be an obsessive compulsive

Is that contagious because I am beginning to wonder why I can't just scroll past his posts :)

280 posted on 01/31/2007 9:38:36 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Spiff

Only because you and your pals have spammed it so many times that it's become a joke; not to mention the fact that it is incorrect.

281 posted on 01/31/2007 9:39:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BunnySlippers

That's all I've been hearing for hours now. LOL

282 posted on 01/31/2007 9:40:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview

Good...just so we're all clear on that matter. :-)

283 posted on 01/31/2007 9:43:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; BunnySlippers

Didn't someone say that Rudy didn't stand a chance in NJ with Republicans? Check this out:

Mayor Giuliani Announces New Jersey Supporters
Garden State Elected Officials Line Up Behind "America's Mayor"

New York, Jan 31 - The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Exploratory Committee today announced that nearly 300 elected officials and key Republicans throughout New Jersey have signed on to support Mayor Giuliani.

George Gilmore, the Republican Chairman of Ocean County, has been named New Jersey Chairman for Rudy's campaign. "I support Rudy because of his demonstrated leadership in crisis, his straightforward, no-nonsense approach to solving problems, and because I believe he'll win not only the majority of Republican votes but many Independents and Democrats, as well. America's Mayor ought to be America's President."

State Senator Tom Kean, Jr., will serve as Honorary Chairman. Senator Kean remarked, "During uncertain times, Rudy Giuliani has proven to be a unifying force who leads with decisive action. Even before September 11, 2001, America’s Mayor had transformed New York City’s economy with fiscally responsible reforms. He helped me tremendously in my recent campaign for the United States Senate and I will work hard to elect Rudy Giuliani as the next President of the United States."

"Mayor Giuliani is honored by the overwhelming show of support from New Jersey. People throughout New Jersey saw firsthand the transformation that occurred in New York City under the Mayor's leadership," said Giuliani Exploratory Committee Executive Director Mike DuHaime, a New Jerseyan himself. "The honorable men and women on this list come from every corner of the state and represent the breadth and diversity of the Republican Party itself."

New Jersey co-chairpersons of the campaign include former Congressman Bob Franks, GOP candidate for U.S. Senate in 2000; State Senator Diane Allen; Roger Bodman, Executive Director-NJ of Reagan/Bush 1984; Burlington County GOP Chairman Col. Mike Warner; Cape May County GOP Chairman David Von Savage; investment banker Candace L. Straight; President of WPI Communications Steve Klinghoffer; and Somerset County GOP Chairman Dale Florio. Chairman Florio summed up the feelings of many, stating, "Somerset County lost many residents on September 11, 2001. Mayor Giuliani was our beacon of light then, and we think he is America's hope for the future."

The New Jersey Chairman's Circle includes Bergen County GOP Chairman Guy Talarico, Morris County GOP Chairman John Sette, Sussex County GOP Chairman Rich Zeoli, Bergen County GOP Chairman Jose Arango, and Warren County GOP Chairman Doug Steinhardt.

Burlington County Republican Chairman Col. Michael Warner remarked, "As a former prosecutor and mayor, Rudy Giuliani has shown the type of leadership we need in the next President of the United States. He is tough on terrorism, knows how to grow and expand the economy, and will protect the homeland. I am proud to endorse the next President of the United States, Rudy Giuliani."

Cape May County Republican Chairman David Von Savage said, "Rudy is the only Republican who can carry New Jersey and Connecticut -- two must-win states. The No. 1 issue in 2008 is the War on Terror. Rudy is the right man to lead and win the fight to preserve freedom and the American way."

Investment banker Candace L. Straight observes, "Mayor Giuliani has proven that the tougher things get, the stronger he gets. Our country is in need of his proven leadership, his ability to bring people together for a common good and his ability to make a difference when we need it most."

State Senator Anthony Bucco put it this way, "The reason I am supporting Rudy is because we need a strong leader with a proven record. He cleaned up the city and made people proud to say they are from New York." Fellow Senator Nick Asselta summed up the Mayor's appeal saying: "Rudy Giuliani has demonstrated the leadership skills that transcend ideological and partisan politics. He has proven his ability to handle crisis. In the war on terror, Giuliani is the President America needs to make the tough decisions and lead our nation."

In a poll of New Jersey voters taken by Quinnipiac University, Rudy Giuliani leads Sen. Hillary Clinton 48 – 41 percent – remarkable for a state that hasn't voted for a Republiscan Presidential candidate since 1988. Among registered Republicans in New Jersey, Giuliani collects 39% of the vote, compared to 21 for John McCain, 11 for Newt Gingrich and 5 for Mitt Romney.

The full list of the first wave of New Jersey supporters of Rudy Giuliani follows, with more to come.

Nicholas Asselta, District 1
Diane Allen, District 7
Martha W. Bark, District 8
Andrew R. Ciesla, District 10
Walter Kavanaugh, District 16
Thomas Kean, Jr. District 21
Anthony Bucco District 25
Robert J Martin District 26
Robert W. Singer, District 30

Francis L. Bodine, District 8
Larry Chatzidakis, District 8
Brian E Rumpf, District 9
David W. Wolfe, District 10
Amy Handlin, District 13
Christopher Bateman, District 16
Peter J. Biondi, District 16
Jon Bramnick, District 21
Eric Munoz, District 21
Joe Pennacchio, District 26
Ronald S. Dancer, District 30
Charlotte Vandervalk District 39

Jose Arango, Republican Chairman, Hudson County
Dale Florio, Republican Chairman, Somerset County
George Gilmore, Republican Chairman, Ocean County
Phil Morin, Republican Chairman, Union County
Larry Pepper, Republican Chairman, Cumberland County
John Sette, Republican Chairman, Morris County
Doug Steinhardt, Republican Chairman, Warren County
Guy Talarico, Republican Chairman, Bergen County
David Von Savage, Republican Chairman, Cape May County
Col. Mike Warner, Republican Chairman, Burlington County
Rich Zeoli, Republican Chairman, Sussex County

Dawn Marie Addiego, Freeholder, Burlington County
Ralph E. Bakley, Sr., Freeholder, Cape May County
Dan Beyel, Freeholder Director, Cape May County
Douglas Cabana, Freeholder, Morris County
Bill Chegwidden, Freeholder, Morris County
Jack Ciattarelli Freeholder, Somerset County
Denise Coyle, Freeholder, Somerset County
Len Desiderio, Freeholder, Cape May County
Gene Feyl, Freeholder, Morris County
Rick Fontana Freeholder, Somerset County
John Inglesino, Deputy Freeholder Director, Morris County
John P. Kelly, Freeholder Director, Ocean County
James F. Lacey, Freeholder, Ocean County
Margaret Nordstrom, Freeholder Director, Morris County
Peter Palmer Freeholder, Somerset County
Elizabeth "Lisa" Randall, Former Freeholder, Bergen County
Jack Schrier, Freeholder, Morris County
Ralph E. Sheets, Jr., Vice Freeholder Director, Cape May County
Jerry Thornton, Freeholder, Cape May County
Joseph H. Vicari, Freeholder, Ocean County
Bob Zaborowski Freeholder, Somerset County
Susan Zellman, Freeholder, Sussex County

Carl W. Block, Clerk, Ocean County, and Mayor, Stafford Township
Joan Bramhall, Clerk, Morris County
Roseann Brown, Vice Chair, Somerset County Republican Organization
Frank Bruno, Surrogate, Somerset County
John F. Callinan, Sheriff, Cape May County
Scott Colabella, Deputy County Clerk, Ocean County
Rita Fulginiti, Clerk, Cape May County
Philip E. Haines, Clerk, Burlington County
Doyle Hunsinger, Vice Chair, Somerset County Republican Organization
Michael Kerwin, Treasurer, Somerset County Republican Organization
Steve O'Connor, Administrator, Cape May County
Carol Oswald, Former Surrogate, Mercer County
Joseph W. Oxley, Sheriff, Monmouth County
John Pecoraro, Surrogate, Morris County
Roma Plakyda, Secretary, Somerset County Republican Organization
William L. Polhemus, Sheriff, Ocean County
Frank Provenzano, Sheriff, Somerset County
Bret Radi, Clerk, Somerset County
Brendan Sciarra, Treasurer, Cape May County Republican Organization
Sal Simonetti, Sheriff, Warren Co
Robert E Untig, Sheriff Sussex County

James P. Barsa, Mayor, Norwood
Sal Bate, Former Deputy Mayor, Millburn
Sal Bonaccorso, Mayor, Clark
Frank Calandriello, Mayor, Garfield
Conrad Caruso, Mayor, Saddle River
Stephen F. Childers, Mayor, Lakehurst
John Ciaramella, Mayor, Roxbury
Joanne Cocchiola, Mayor, Nutley
Walt Craig, Mayor, Lower Township
Barbara Jo "Bobbi" Crea, Mayor, Little Egg Harbor Township
Ronald S. Dancer, Mayor, Plumsted (see also, Assembly, District 30)
Joe Donnelly, Mayor, Cinnaminson
Frank J. Druetzler, Mayor, Morris Plains, and Former Morris County Freeholder
John Ekdahl, Mayor, Rumson
DiAnne C. Gove, Mayor, Long Beach Township
Carl Groon, Mayor, Wildwood Crest
P. Kenneth Hershey, Mayor, Seaside Heights
Jerry Inderweis, Mayor, City Of Cape May
Paul J. Kennedy, Mayor, Ocean Gate
Dr. Robert Kleinberg, Mayor, Marlboro Township
Martin C. Konkus, Mayor, Point Pleasant
Robert Kraft, Deputy Mayor, Ocean Township
Martin Marks, Mayor, Scotch Plains
Sue Ann Metzner, Mayor, Winslow Township
Richard A. Mola, Mayor, Elmwood Park
Bob Nolan, Deputy Mayor, Lower Township
Bonnie Olt, Council Member, Evesham
John Pantalone, Former Mayor and Republican Municipal Leader, Wildwood Crest
Thomas Phelan, Republican Municipal Leader and Former Mayor, Cape May City
Anthony Pugliese, Mayor, Borough of Audubon
Bill O'Connor, Mayor, Chatham Township
Nicholas Pompilio, Mayor, Borogh of Netcong
Brian A. Reid, Mayor, Lacey Township
Debbie Sarcone, Deputy Mayor, Evesham
Mark Seda, Mayor, Jackson Township
Muriel Shore, Former Essex freeholder, Former Mayor of Fairfield
Andrew Skibitsky, Mayor, Westfield
Thomas J Stewart, Mayor, Beach Haven
Gus Tamburro, Mayor, Evesham
Ernie Troiano, Mayor, City Of Wildwood
Daniel Van Pelt, Mayor, Ocean Township
Thomas S. Vogel, Mayor, Point Pleasant Beach
Cyril Wekilsky, Mayor, Township of Boonton

Stephen C. Acropolis, Council President, Brick Township
Peggy Adams, Municipal Chairperson, Morris Plains
Dominick J. Aiello, Council Member, West Caldwell
William Akers, Council Member, Seaside Heights
Carmen F. Amato, Jr., Council Member, Berkeley Township
Anthony Ammiano, Committee Member, Former Mayor, Freehold Township
John Baldino, Municipal Chairman, Paramus
Randy Bauer, Council Member, Stone Harbor
John Bayeux, Municipal Chairman, Bernards Township
Jim Bellis, Municipal Chairman, Bedminster
David Beyel, Upper Township Republican Municipal Leader
Lou Bickel, Municipal Chairman,Raritan
Vincent Binkoski, Council Member, Wharton
John Biondi, Council Member, Township of Mt Olive
Kathy Breuss, Commissioner, City Of Wildwood
Anthony M. Bucco, Esq., Morris County Republican County Counsel
Robert Budesa, Council Member, Pine Beach
Don Cabrera, Borough Commissioner, Wildwood Crest
Paul Camella Council Member, Woodcliff Lake
Joyce E. Camera, Council Member, Seaside Heights
Sal Caruana, Council Member, Westfield
Joe Chiusolo, Council Member, Cedar Grove
Mark Ciarrocca, Council Member, Westfield
Geneva Clayton, Municipal Chairwoman, Jackson
John Coiro, Totowa Municipal Chairman
Frank Conrad, Committeeman, Upper Township
Thomas Conrad, Council Member, Lower Township
Glenn Corbett, Council Member, Wharton
David S. Craig, Council Member, Cape May City.
Karen Davis, Council Member, Berkeley Township
Tony DePaulo, Republican Club President, Berkeley Township
Jeanne DiPaola, Council Member, Stafford
Glenn Douglass, Council Member, Lower Township
Ann DuHaime, Former Mayor, Bloomingdale
Joann Duszczak, Council Member, Seaside Heights
Mark Dykoff, Committee Member, Lacey Township
Peter Echausse, Council Member, Westfield
Niels Favre, Council Member, City of Cape May
Michael J. Fiure, Council Member, Toms River
Cordelia Fuller, Council Member, Borough of Chatham
Bill Gannon, Republican Municipal Leader, City Of Wildwood
Brian Gillen, Council Member, Wharton
Richard Goldberg, Council President, Hawthorne
Ray Gormley, Committeeman, Little Egg Harbor
Tom Hall, Committee Member, Middletown
Kelly Hatfield, Former Council Member, Summit
Scott Hutchins, Council Member, Wharton
William Huyler, Chief of Police, Morris County Park Police
Rev. Gregory Johnson, Council Member, Ocean City
Lois Johnson, Former Chair of Morris County
Lori Keenan, Republican Municipal Leader, Stone Harbor
John Kehm Jr., Committeeman, Little Egg Harbor
Meryl and Steve King, Caldwell, Treasurer Caldwell Republican County Committee
Brian Kubiel, Council Member, Toms River
Bob Lacorte, Municipal Chairman, Franklin
Barbara Lanuto, Republican Vice Chair, Ocean County
Cecilia G. Laureys, Council Member, Netcong, and Former Morris County Freeholder
Marianne Laux, Council Member, Wharton
Brian Levinson, Council Member, Stone Harbor
Janet Linnus, Municipal Chairman, Montgomery
John Lore, Municipal Chairman, Green Brook
Russell Maffei, Municipal Chairman, Jersey City GOP
Scott R. Martin, Council Member, Jackson
Maria Maruca, Council Member, Toms River
Barry D. Mastrangelo, Council President, Stone Harbor
Francis J. McCall, Wildwood Crest Commissioner, Former Council Member, Ocean City
Pat McCormick, Municipal Chairman, Somerville
Gregory P. McGuckin, Council President, Dover Township
Mike Merdinger, Municipal Chairman, Hillsborough
Arthur Midgley, Committeeman, Little Egg Harbor
Julian Mirgalia, Council Member, The Borough of Stone Harbor
Dave Most, Committee Member, Lacey Township
Jo Ann Neylan, Council Member, Westfield
Marie-Elena O'Connor, Council Member, Stafford
Michael O'Hagan, Councilmember, Glen Rock
Skip Orza, Municipal Chairman, Bernardsville
Arline Ottoson, Council Member, Seaside Heights
John Parker, Committee Member, Lacey Township
Jim Piro, Chairman of Nutley County Committee, Former Essex County Republican Chair, Former Essex County District 5 Freeholder
Ana Pizutelli, Vice Chairwoman, Bloomfield County Committee
Agnes S. Polhemus, Council Member, Seaside Heights
Harold Poltrock, Former Council Member, Springfield
Alan Purcell, Council Member, Wayne
Gary Quinn, Committee Member, Lacey Township
Scott Rudder, Council Member, Medford
Jim Rilee, Council Member, Roxbury
Patrick Rosenello, City Council President, North Wildwood
Tom Roshetar, Municipal Chairman, Rocky Hill
Sanford Ross, Council President, South Toms River
Irwin Sablosky, member Board of Education, Springfield
Dave Salkin, Council Member, Freehold Township
Jan Sandri, Former Mayor and Council Member, Little Falls
Bill Schievella, Council Member, Rockaway Township, and President of Italian Police Association
John Schmidt, West Orange Mayoral Candidate
Jo-Anne Schubert, Municipal Chairman, South Bound Brook
Steve Scutaro, Republican Club President, Brick Township
Joseph Scuralli, Council Member, Wayne
Fred P. Seeber, Council Member, Stafford
Ernie Sesso, West Paterson Republican Chairman
Shirley Shortway-English, Council member, Hawthorne
Jonathan Soto, Council Member, City of Passaic
Connie Spencer, Vice Chairwoman, Glen Ridge County Committee
Scott Stites, Committeeman, Little Egg Harbor
Arlene Strege, Municipal Chairwoman, Branchburg
Ray Tamborini, Council Member, Bloomfield
Jack Thomas, Council President, Ocean City
Richard Tompkins, Council Member, Seaside Heights
Joe Turula, Counsel to Hudson County GOP
Ann M. Updegrave, Council Member, Jackson
Howard Wagner, Municipal Chairman, Bound Brook
David L. Wyrsch, Sr., Council Member, Stafford
David Young, Council Member, Wharton
Anita F. Zalom, Council Member, Lavallette

Joseph Achacoso, Asian-Americans for Bush, 04
Richard H. Bagger, Former State Senator, District 21
John Bennett, Former State Senate President
Roger Bodman, ED of Reagan/Bush 1984, vice chair for Bush 1988, Campaign Mgr for Gov Kean 1981
Bill Crosby, State Committeeman, Somerset County
Sally DeBarcza, State Committeewoman, Somerset County
Bob DeBlock, West Paterson GOP
Barbara DeMarco, Mercer County Improvement Authority
Joe DeIorio, Mayor, Roselle Park
Paul DiGaetano, Former Assembly Minority leader
Douglas F. Doyle, Managing Partner of the Law Firm Edwards & Caldwell LLC.
Richard DuHaime, Former Freeholder, Passaic County
Sylvester Fernandez, entrepreneur, Indian-American business leader
Bob Franks, Former Congressman, US Senate candidate ‘00
Al Gaburo, Governmental Affairs Consultant
Richard Goldberg, Former President of the Commerce and Industry Association of NJ
Ronald Gravino, Former Chairman, NJ Highway Authority
A. Virginia Haines, National Committeewoman from New Jersey
Nicole Hantman, Nat'l Assoc of Homebuilders
Alan Herman, State Committeeman, Camden County
Steve Klinghoffer, President, WPI Communications
Al Leiter, Southpaw
Mark Levenson, Sills Cummis
Luis Linares, Republican State Committee Hispanic Outreach Coordinator
Arthur Maurice
Edward "Skip" McMahon, State Committeeman, Morris County
Michael Mecca, Former Freeholder, Former Chair of Passaic GOP
Gualberto "Gil" Medina, Former Commissioner of the N.J. Department of Commerce and Economic Development
Jeff Michaels, Former Chief of Staff to Gov. DiFrancesco
Amy Osborn, State Committeewoman, Camden County
Laura Palatucci, County Committee, Union County
Christine Ramirez, State Committeeman, Morris County
Steven E. Some, President, Capital Public Affairs
Candy Straight, Former Co-chair, New Jersey GOP
Bill Spadea, Real Estate Executive, '04 GOP Nominee for U.S. Congress (NJ-12)

New Jersey Finance Chair Michael "Mickey" Gooch, CEO of GFI Group
Eugene Croddick, CEO, Amerivest
Rafael Cuellar, Shop-Rite
Christopher Giancarlo, GFI Group
Rabbi Yehuda Gross
Henry Kane, McLachlan Kane Insurance Agency
Robert Ortiz. Esq, Beattie Padovano
Brian Pasch, Managing Partner, Millennium Teleservices
J. Peter Simon, Chairman, William E. Simon & Sons
Eileen and John Sivolella

284 posted on 01/31/2007 9:44:40 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: TheLion

Yes, she said that, but I think that she is now acting like a SILLY woman and just looking at what he looks like.

285 posted on 01/31/2007 9:45:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BunnySlippers


286 posted on 01/31/2007 9:45:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dolphy

No, it isn't catching, as far as I know, LOL

287 posted on 01/31/2007 9:46:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

Check out post #284 -- Found this on the Rudy site -- guess it shows that NJ Republicans do like Rudy! Impressive list so early in the campaign IMHO!

288 posted on 01/31/2007 9:47:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom; jmc813; Antonious

jmc813 and Antonious stated, uncatagorically that Rudy absolutely, positively, can NEVER win Jersey.

289 posted on 01/31/2007 9:49:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: PhiKapMom
I think you are misunderestimating what a motivated red state grassroots electorate can accomplish against Hillary. But they have to be motivated.

Bush violated his conservative principles and the result was he could not motivate his base in '92. Bob Dole could not motivate the conservative base in '96. GWB just barely gained enough support against Gore in 2000 and it took a considerable grassroots effort to finally get him seated.

Without the motivated grassroots in '04, Kerry would probably be president today.

And due to a perceived lack of conservative principles in the Republican Party in '06, our side was not motivated and now we're stuck in our current situation.

You've got to give the people something to get the juices flowing. Sorry, Rudy's a great guy and he'll get half of our side going, or maybe even three quarters, but it's going to take an all out effort.

Why hobble our side with a candidate who is sorely lacking on basic conservative issues? He's not going to motivate the conservative right. Don't repeat the mistakes noted above. Violating the most basic conservative principles is a sure way to lose the election.

I stated that almost any decent, honest conservative Republican should win against Hillary, but he must be able to motivate his base to do it. Sadly, the social liberal Rudy Giuliani may be the one Republican of the top half dozen or so front runners who might fail to motivate the grassroots and therefore may actually cause a repeat of '92 and we say hello again to a President Clinton.

Do not repeat the now obvious mistakes made in '92, '96 and '06 and barely avoided in '00 and '04. Be sure the candidate we choose actually walks and talks the conservative platform!

Motivate the base. Win elections!

290 posted on 01/31/2007 9:50:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Dark Skies


291 posted on 01/31/2007 9:50:38 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nopardons

Talk to you all tomorrow. Have to finish up some forms for our Convention and then hitting the sack! I hate Excel! Been putting it off all night!

292 posted on 01/31/2007 9:52:13 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Jim Robinson

(((Hugs))) Sigh:)Who loves you.

293 posted on 01/31/2007 9:53:47 PM PST by fatima (Be angry if you must, but do not sin: do not let your anger outlast the sunset: do not give the Devi)
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To: PhiKapMom
It also shows what a candidate has to do, long before the first day of the actual primary, to win and WHY none of the the bottom tier guys and especially those not even in the exploratory phase yet, can hope to be the GOP presidential candidate in '08!

Anyone and everyone who imagines that someone other than those who are NOW lining up their ducks in a row, has any chance whatsoever, just does NOT understand politics.

294 posted on 01/31/2007 9:54:55 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
jmc813 and Antonious stated, uncatagorically that Rudy absolutely, positively, can NEVER win Jersey.

Just the opposite. I am very anti-Rudy but I definitely believe that if Rudy is the nominee (something I doubt), he has a decent chance of winning Jersey.

295 posted on 01/31/2007 9:55:15 PM PST by jmc813 (Please check out and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: Spiff
It is quite disturbing that the 3 announced frontrunners are the worst candidates when you hold them up to the actual Republican Party Platform.

If the overwhelming majority of Republican voters are really conservative then how can this be?

Prepare yourself for a shock -- Republican nominations are usually not decided by ideology.

We nominated Ike because after twenty years out of power we were desperate for a winner.

Nixon became the nominee primarily because he was the Veep.

Goldwater beat Rocky largely on ideology and then got his ass kicked by LBJ.

Nixon came back and beat the left (Rocky) and right (RR) in 1968.

1976 and 1980 had some ideological components, but Ford was veep in 1976 and RR was clearly the best campaigner in 1980. Remember that GHWB was leading RR until Mr. Green cut off the microphone.

Bush beat Dole in 1988 and nobody would accuse either of them of being conservatives.

Dole won the 1996 nomination on seniority and because it was his turn. A good man, a bad POTUS candidate to run against Bubba.

GWB defeated McCain for a variety of reasons -- partly ideology, and partly because then (as now) many people just don't trust McCain.

The plain fact is that the Republican Party just does not nominate dark horses. In fact, except for 1964 there has been a Nixon, Dole or Bush on every Republican Ticket since 1948. The Party goes with known quantities who have paid their dues, not unknown Congresscritters like Brownback or Hunter or Tancredo.

IMHO Gingrich has too much baggage. I think it is likely to be McCain, Romney or Giuliani. I don't trust McCain as C-in-C, and Romney is just not as good an option as Giuliani.

Unless a viable option comes up in the next year, Rudy is the clear choice. He is clearly the candidate the 'rats would most fear. No, he isn't a conservative -- but I don't see a conservative out there with a realistic chance of winning.

296 posted on 01/31/2007 9:55:55 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: PhiKapMom


297 posted on 01/31/2007 9:55:55 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: PhiKapMom

He's my man. I can't wait for volunteer duties!

298 posted on 01/31/2007 9:57:39 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Nighty night.................see you soon.

299 posted on 01/31/2007 9:58:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: PhiKapMom

OK, but besides them what other pols in NJ are supporting him?

300 posted on 01/31/2007 9:58:21 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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