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Radical Left Set To Defile (WALL) The Vietnam Veterans Memorial
http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8137 ^
Posted on 01/31/2007 10:00:43 PM PST by InfantryMarine
Passing the word received on the next anti-war debacle to be held, of all places, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial!
As the email below states we need to enlist legions of veterans to form a wall of honor to prevent the wall's use as a backdrop and defilement by the radial left.
It is a place of honor, not a stage prop for protesters. It should be respected and revered not prostituted for political purpose.(Ala, Slick Willy one Memorial Day)
Antiwar Rally Set For Vietnam Veterans Memorial
http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8137
http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_M17flyers
Are we ready to mount Operation Honor Locked In Stone to counter such an affront? Pass the word to all Vets on this.
I propose we form an "Honor Guard " Of tens of thousands of Veterans to form a "human perimeter" around the Wall and keep the antiwar crowd far,far from it. Let them use a less scared landmark for their assembly point and do no further dishonor to those on the wall that have done during that war and afterward.
Anyone up to organizing such a daunting task?
Organizing, communications, press releases, enlisting radio and TV media talk show hosts, logistics, permit applications, etc. will all have to be handled, and handled very quickly to pull it off.
Lets get this passed to all the veteran and active duty and like-minded community networks, websites, etc. and lets see what we/they come up with?
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; moonbats; treason
To: InfantryMarine
I am! Sign me up! I have a relative who is one of the many HEROS on that wall and will fly there to protect him!!
Great idea...sign me up!!
To: InfantryMarine
I hope you get enough to guard the Wall two-deep.
To: Generic_Login_1787
WTF? Why would someone want to deface a place of mourning? The older I get the more I just do not understand.
To: SandRat; HiJinx
To: InfantryMarine
The Left defiled the Vietnam War Memorial before it was ever built.
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posted on
01/31/2007 10:13:39 PM PST
by
RavenATB
(Patton was right...)
To: InfantryMarine
I will sign up and take time off work to fly there and stand there at the VietNam memorial in direct opposition to those traitorous punks whenever needed.
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posted on
01/31/2007 10:16:02 PM PST
by
RunningWolf
(2-1 Cav 1975)
To: lndrvr1972
Because they are about pure unadulterated hate. It is no more complicated than that.
Thats why its so hard to grasp.
Wolf
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posted on
01/31/2007 10:18:39 PM PST
by
RunningWolf
(2-1 Cav 1975)
To: InfantryMarine
Anyone attempting to defile that sacred monument should be (reference to violence omitted to prevent deletion, per Free Republic regulations).
To: InfantryMarine
If true, it is the first sign that the lunatic left in American have become suicidal...
An act such as defiling the Wall, will absolutely lead to violent reaction from some pretty dangerous folks...
Bet on it.
Semper Fi
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posted on
01/31/2007 10:39:59 PM PST
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: InfantryMarine
On March 17, 2007, the 4th anniversary of the start of the criminal invasion of Iraq, tens of thousands of people from around the country will descend on the Pentagon in a mass demonstration to demand: U.S. Out of Iraq Now! 2007 is the 40th anniversary of the historic 1967 anti-war march to the Pentagon during the Vietnam War. The message of the 1967 march was "From Protest to Resistance," and marked a turning point in the development of a countrywide mass movement. In the coming days and weeks, thousands of organizations and individuals will begin mobilizing for the upcoming March on the Pentagon. Organizing committees and transportation centers are being established to bring people to the March on the Pentagon. The March 17 demonstration will assemble at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens) at 12 noon in Washington, D.C.and march to the Pentagon. A complete list of moonbats for your information. Do what you gotta do.
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posted on
01/31/2007 11:00:51 PM PST
by
WTSand
To: InfantryMarine
I wonder if the MSM will cover it if the anti-war nuts spray paint the wall? They didn't cover the spray painting last week. Had to hear about it from Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, and other talk radio hosts.
To: lndrvr1972
I think this just scratches the surface of the things these mongoloids would like to do.
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posted on
01/31/2007 11:38:52 PM PST
by
oyez
( My karma ran over your dogma.)
To: river rat
It would just about push me over the edge.
To: InfantryMarine
This is somewhat ironic because the Vietnam Veterans Memorial was considered a leftist memorial at first because it seemed portray the soldiers as victims rather than heroes, there was no explanation of what the war was about and the statue of the three soldiers wasn't added until several years later.
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:04:06 AM PST
by
JohnBDay
("The kids are alright.")
To: InfantryMarine
The Park Police will not allow them to gather on the memorial grounds, but just in case - bookmarked.
BTW, Clinton only showed his face that one time in 93. It may have had something to do with the fact that approximately 200 of us, on command, did an about face and turned our backs on him as he started to speak. He never came back.
To: JohnBDay
Considered a leftist memorial by who?
To: leadpenny
http://digital.lib.lehigh.edu/trial/vietnam/files/round3/hydetoreagan.pdf
This is a letter by Henry Hyde and signed by several other Republican congressmen to Reagan criticizing the design and asking Interior Secretary James Watt not to approve it.
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:16:36 AM PST
by
JohnBDay
("The kids are alright.")
To: river rat
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:22:32 AM PST
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
To: Domandred
They WONT touch that wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:23:32 AM PST
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
To: leadpenny
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:25:57 AM PST
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
To: leadpenny
The Park Police will not allow them to gather on the memorial grounds, but just in case - bookmarked
In any event I think there should be a VN Vet tribute gathering there at the same time.
// Clinton there in 93//
Wow, you were there for that?
I remember that event.
I have not been to DC in so may years and this year it looks as I will be there at least 2 times before March is over.
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:26:08 AM PST
by
RunningWolf
(2-1 Cav 1975)
To: WTSand
"criminal invasion of Iraq"
That STILL irks me.... when will these idiots learn....
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:27:10 AM PST
by
MrJapan
To: InfantryMarine
I'm ready for CWII. Enough is enough.
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:28:26 AM PST
by
Shaun_MD
(I vote for overreaction.)
To: JohnBDay
"This is somewhat ironic because the Vietnam Veterans Memorial was considered a leftist memorial at first because it seemed portray the soldiers as victims rather than heroes, there was no explanation of what the war was about and the statue of the three soldiers wasn't added until several years later."
Interesting... I didn't know that :o
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:28:35 AM PST
by
MrJapan
To: JohnBDay
No doubt there was controversy from the very beginning, because the war and it's aftermath was controversial. There was even controversy amongst those who proposed a memorial - - Jan Scruggs and others. There was a tad bit of racism when Maya Linh's (sp?) design for the memorial was selected.
I just think the Memorial transcends politics.
To: RunningWolf
Yeah, it wasn't planned that I know of. Most who were there were just unhappy that Clinton was sort of "in our face." The "about face" was impromptu and I just happened to be in the formation. Some guy took charge and put us in formation before we did it.
To: InfantryMarine
If we don't start calling out these disgusting lunatics and slapping them with charges of treason soon, I fear that this nation will find itself in a civil war. These maniacs have been finding out that they can get bolder and bolder every day with absolutely no repercussions. If they are not held accountable for their actions it WILL take the jump from despicable 'symbolic' acts to serious acts of violence and outright conflict. These people are not Americans any longer in my book, and haven't been for quite some time. When will this madness stop and who will have the ability (and the balls) to actually do something about it?
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posted on
02/01/2007 4:30:47 AM PST
by
frankiep
(Beer - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems)
To: WTSand
A complete list of moonbats for your information. Do what you gotta do.That's a broad-spectrum collection of communist sympathizers and islamist collaborators. There's even some of the "free Mumia" crowd.
This isn't an "anti-war" demonstration. It's a "Hate America, Destroy America, Destroy Western Civilisation" demonstration. It's all about the hate.
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posted on
02/01/2007 4:38:28 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: leadpenny
I just think the Memorial transcends politics. I, too, remember the controversy about it ... that placing "underground" (it's below grade) implied that we were somehow ashamed of those who are memorialized on it. In theory, I even agreed with that.
Then, a couple of years or so after it was opened, I went to see it.
I changed my mind.
Completely
I'm glad the more traditional memorials were erected, but the wall is hallowed ground and I cannot but feel pride and gratitude for the men who went over there.
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posted on
02/01/2007 4:44:56 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: ArrogantBustard
Those were sort of my reactions too. As much as I like the addition of the three-man statue and the flag pole now, back then I had already accepted the simple beauty of the Wall and was against adding things for PC reasons. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial may still be the most visited site in DC.
To: ArrogantBustard
That's a broad-spectrum collection of communist sympathizers and islamist collaborators. There's even some of the "free Mumia" crowd. This isn't an "anti-war" demonstration. It's a "Hate America, Destroy America, Destroy Western Civilisation" demonstration. It's all about the hate. There are a few names you would expect that aren't --- yet. Keep checking the list. I keep a list.txt in case they decide to pull it. Know your enemy.
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posted on
02/01/2007 7:08:05 AM PST
by
WTSand
To: onedoug
To: windcliff
Whoever would do such a thing had better hope the Park Police get to them before the vets do.
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posted on
02/01/2007 9:36:37 AM PST
by
onedoug
To: Domandred
Where did you hear about the Wall being spray painted last week? If Hannity or anyone else reported it, they were either making it up wholesale or being mislead. As soon as I saw this posting I called the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund and they swear it has NOT been defaced. It was NOT spray painted. To be certain you might want to check it out yourself: 202-393-0090.
To: leadpenny
The Park Police will not allow them to gather on the memorial grounds For their sake, I hope that's true. No one is to touch that wall except in prayer, remembrance and respect.
To: InfantryMarine
How dare they do this in such a solemn place. What's the name of that group that keeps the Phelps Klan in check at funerals?
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posted on
02/01/2007 12:46:14 PM PST
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: leadpenny
The protest was preplanned and our ranks totaled 2-3 thousand in the formation.
I was one of the organizers. I also was the veteran with the Marine Sgt. Shirt on that gave you the command "About Face!"
We generated hundreds of thousands of postcards sent to the white house asking WJC not to deliver his speech using the VN WALL as prop, as we veterans saw it as he would dishonor it, given his Draft Dodging and Antiwar activities and his "loathing of the military".
When he would not relent from his plan the protest plan was hatched by three fellows (One a former Green Beret) from N.C.)
I debated Jan Scruggs (The idiot who invited WJC to speak there) on national radio for an hour the Friday prior.
I also appeared on the Today Show with Kati Curic Memorial Day morning 1993 and debated Scruggs again. (On scene feed)
I had all I could do not to deck him on worldwide TV after he said "we need to get past this nonsense", in reference to the righteous indignation we VN Vets we felling about the use of the Wall for WJC to prop up his sinking approval numbers at the time.
I did a total 53 interviews that day, with media from all over the world. The other organizers did likewise.
I certainly hope that someone will organize and protect the integrity and honor of those who's names are upon that Wall and not allow it to be defaced, defiled, or pimped, by leftists who hate every thing these good men sacrificed for.
They have a right to protest. We earned that for them...
Just do not do it on the graves of my brothers.
They need to be prevented by a counter demonstration and the human "Honor Guard" of citizens and veterans mentioned above.
Hope someone steps up to the plate and gets it organized.
To: BobMadigan
Where did you hear about the Wall being spray painted last week? If Hannity or anyone else reported it, they were either making it up wholesale or being mislead. As soon as I saw this posting I called the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund and they swear it has NOT been defaced. It was NOT spray painted. To be certain you might want to check it out yourself: 202-393-0090. You miss understood. I didn't mean the Wall itself was spray painted last week. At the anti-war demonstration on Sunday I think it was several protesters attempted to spray paint various monuments, statues and buildings. Don't know if they actually succeeded in doing so but the cans were definitely there, out, and ready for use.
To: InfantryMarine
Talk about a small world. YOU were the one. I apologize for my poor crowd estimating ability. I do remember they kept us well away on that eastern side of the memorial. I had no idea there had been that much planning, but I do remember being mad enough to be there. Oh, my son, who had just finished basic and AIT, was with me. He's now an Infantry Ranger Captain stationed in Kirkuk.
BTW, you did a good job of giving the drill commands. Welcome home.
To: river rat
You can be that someone will be out to get Jihad Jane.
To: leadpenny
You too!
Please tell your son good luck and good hunting for us.
And, tell him to tell his brethren, that will not allow what was done to our generation of veterans be done to his.
They can take that to the bank!
To: InfantryMarine
Thank you and I'll tell him.
BTW, if it looks like these folks are going to be allowed to swarm the Wall and the memorial grounds, I'll be back down there. It's a special place for many.
To: BobMadigan
I do not think anyone has ever said that it was spray painted.
Many of us take great umbrage at the fact that it is planned to be the rally point for the upcoming antiwar protest.
That is a defilement of hallowed ground in and of itself, therefore it should be prevented. (Peacefully)
To: JohnBDay
Good afternoon.
The Wall is an example of how so much of what the Left tries to do rebounds on it.
They made the People fund it's construction and purposly deviated from classic war memorial design to choose a design that was called the Black Wall of Shame. Nevertheless it has grown into the most visited memorial in DC and it helps to insulate us against the Leftist criminals.
I haven't been able bring myself to go there, yet it calms me.
Michael Frazier
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posted on
02/01/2007 3:26:02 PM PST
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: InfantryMarine
Reply Mail from the National Park Service
Dear Sir:
I forwarded your E-mail attachment to the National Park Service employee and U.S. Park Police Sergeant who will be meeting with applicants for a public gathering permit for a large march/demonstration on 17 MAR 07. At this time, it is accurate to state that the National Park Service has issued no permit for any event starting at the Wall of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, on that date. As I mentioned on the telephone, there are special regulations, found at Title 36, United States Code of Federal Regulations, Section 7.97, which protect core Vietnam Veterans Memorial areas and resources from such activities.
As my Supervisor directed, I have requested the National Park Service employee responsible for reviewing any public gathering permit application, as described above, to respond to the concerns you expressed on the telephone this morning,via E-mail. Thank you for your time.
Robert M. Healy, Jr.
Park Ranger, National Mall and Memorial Parks
In other words the website is lying they have not yet gotten a permit, now is the time to fight with the pen we must get this information out asap....people need to clog their Congressmen and Senators and the National Park Service with E-mails and phone calls! They can't be allowed to be anywhere near any Memorial! Thats what the streets are for the gutter and the garbage. Please forward this far and wide! Also this doesn't mean we shouldn't get as many Vietnam Veterans as possible to DC I remember another time long ago when WE needed America to support us and they didn't....we need to support our troops and their mission!
ViperAsh50
To: ViperAsh50
Any chance we can get the name address/email address and phone contact number for this said: "National Park Service employee responsible for reviewing any public gathering permit application," I take it he is a ranking supervisor of some kind?
I am sure he'd like to hear from us.
I am sure my local radio talk show (50K Watts) host would like it as well. ;-)
I will be in contact with him in the AM to alert him of this entire imbroglio surrounding the wall and protest. He'll be on it like white on rice. If he had his number he'd get him on the air and ask him a few things.
Suggest all reading this do the same. Contact your local radio, TV,and newspaper news editors,and tell them how you feel about this proposed sacrilege. Don't wait for someone else to do it.
Semper Fi-
Infantry Marine
To: Domandred
Sorry to have misread what you wrote. I just hope I was the only one. Indeed, as you note, there were other incidents including a minor spray painting of some of the steps to the US Capitol. That was cleaned immediately with no lasting damage. Never-the-less that is reprehensible conduct.
To: InfantryMarine
The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments:
Demonstration press release.doc
MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART
National Headquarters
5413-B Backlick Road, Springfield, VA 22151
703-642-5360 Fax: 703-642-1841
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
For information contact:
Nat'l Public Relations Director Ray Funderburk (662) 772-5811
Email: mophpr@bellsouth.net
Springfield, VA--"Don't touch the Vietnam Memorial Wall," said Tom Poulter, National Commander of the Military Order of the Purple Heart (MOPH), speaking to potential anti-war demonstrators who plan on gathering there on March 17th.
"Fifty eight thousand men and boys fought and died so you could demonstrate in peace. To dishonor them by defacing the Wall is unthinkable," Poulter continued.
"We respect the right to demonstrate. We do not respect the right to defile or deface sacred places like the Vietnam Wall. Our members, many of whom were wounded in Vietnam, are outraged that protesters would even consider gathering near the Wall. That is hallowed ground to us who shed our blood on the soils of Vietnam."
The MOPH commander was livid when he learned of the planned gathering near the Wall to begin an anti-war demonstration on March 17th.
"It would be best for those people to gather some other place. In fact, there will be many Vietnam veterans guarding the Wall and I can assure you it will not be a peaceful situation should anti-war demonstrators try to damage or deface the memorial."
"There are those who will demonstrate who are not worthy enough to stand near the Wall, much less touch it."
The majority of the 40,000 members of the MOPH were wounded in Vietnam.
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posted on
02/16/2007 4:48:51 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
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