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McCain assails top U.S. commander in Iraq (Gen Casey to become next Army chief of staff)
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 1, 2007 8:53 AM PST | Julian E. Barnes, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 02/01/2007 12:08:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON --

John McCain, the leading Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, today took to task Gen. George Casey, the top American commander in Iraq, accusing him of being the architect of a failed strategy and failing to take the correct steps to improve the security situation.

Casey, nominated to become the next Army chief of staff, faced a series of tough questions from McCain and other senators. The general found himself trying to navigate through a committee of senators with wildly different opinions about the troop increase in Iraq.

It was McCain, the leading advocate in the Senate for increasing the number of troops in Iraq, who had the toughest questions for Casey. He accused Casey of failing to adapt his strategy as the sectarian violence grew worse over the course of 2006.

"Our military strategy remained unchanged," McCain said. "Instead of mounting a traditional counterinsurgency campaign, our troops focused on training the Iraqis … our forces did not focus on protecting the population."

Although he would have to provide the forces to support the mission as Army chief of staff, Casey would have no direct influence over Iraq policy. Still, the majority of senators' questions focused on Casey's leadership in Iraq and the new strategy announced by the White House.

At the beginning of the hearing, McCain said he had questions about Casey's nomination. Quoting from Casey's press conferences, McCain said the general had regularly offered overly optimistic assessments oabout the progress in Iraq.


"Why have your predictions of success been so unrealistically rosy?" McCain asked. "You stated we were winning and every day we were making progress toward our strategic goals."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; casey; georgecasey; iraq; johnmccain; mccain; scapegoat
While questioning Casey, McCain said that the new commanders in Iraq, the new Defense secretary and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have said the old strategy had failed. But Casey said that he did not agree with their assessments.

"I do not believe the current policy has failed," Casey said.
1 posted on 02/01/2007 12:08:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"I do not believe the current policy has failed," Casey said.

This is why I don't agree with the President keeping him as a commander. The guy is simply wrong.


2 posted on 02/01/2007 12:09:42 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: everyone

The kind of thing that inspires the nickname, "MeCain."
What a classless blowhard.

General Casey shouldn't have been appointed chairman of the Joint Chiefs -- a stupid call on Bush's part. But MeCain shouldn't be beating the man up at this point. Casey is no longer in charge of Iraq, nor is he in charge of the theater.


3 posted on 02/01/2007 12:11:42 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: everyone

OK, Army chief of staff. My mistake.

Still a bad call by Bush.


4 posted on 02/01/2007 12:12:44 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
McCain is just being a pompous ass.
5 posted on 02/01/2007 12:13:39 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Another case of a person who does not know what is really going on in Iraq telling one who does he is wrong.

I will enjoy watching McCain lose primary after primary next year.
6 posted on 02/01/2007 12:14:36 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So... are we going to train the Iraqis to do their job, or are we pulling double duty and going to have to police their streets as well?


7 posted on 02/01/2007 12:14:54 PM PST by wastedyears ( "Gun control is hitting your target accurately." - Richard Marcinko)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My John McCain (up close and personal) story, from the 2000 South Carolina Primary.

Greenville SC - the 2000 Presidential primary - John McCain had just beaten ‘W’ in the NH primary and the “Straight Talk Express” rolled into South Carolina.

I was a McCain supporter - positive that he was the real deal.

I drove to a McCain speech and public appearance. It was a day I will never forget as long as I live.

That day I witnessed John McCain behave unlike any appearance I had ever seen on TV - the man was unhinged.

After a 15 minute canned speech - he decided to address his competition in the primary - George W. Bush. He did so by beginning with, “I am Luke Skywalker, and my opponents are members of the Empire. Together we will form the rebellion and defeat Darth Vadar”. He yelled this - first pumping - his voice full of anger - his face - beet red - and his eyes - well - they were scary.

The crowd instantly went from supportive - to bewildered.

He obviously didn’t pick up on the mood change - because he went on for another 5 minutes - ranting and raving about how everyone was lying about his record - his views - and he, “wasn’t going to take it any more” (remember the movie Network).

It was surreal.

When he finished - and with the prodding of an aid - he left the stage, while we in the crowd just stood there - stunned - and honestly - completely confused.

I asked a woman next to me: “what the hell just happened?” She answered: “that man is freaking nuts!”

I came home - walked in the house - sat on the couch and just looked at the wall. I suddenly realized - the man pushed on television - was not the man at all.

I have told this story many times - to many people - and I have heard the same story told back to me by others who have seen similar John McCain episodes.

I am not given to criticize anyone lightly ladies and gentlemen.

I am sure John McCain is a good man - but listen to me - and please believe me.

JOHN MCCAIN is NOT FIT TO LEAD THIS NATION.

John McCain is unstable. John McCain is freaking nuts!

7 posted on 01/17/2006 5:51:55 AM PST by Jake The Goose (My John McCain Story)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559523/posts


8 posted on 02/01/2007 12:15:49 PM PST by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democrat Party". - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: bnelson44

Casey and Abizaid were both bad generals and should have gone long ago, but better late then never.

Bush finally started figuring out mid-2006 that Casey and Abaizaid were more interested in withdrawl then actually winning.


9 posted on 02/01/2007 12:17:52 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: California Patriot; All

In case anyone is not clear, McPain knows, very well, three things about his comments and questions to the general:

1)they will NOT inspire PUBLIC support for our efforts in Iraq, even though Casey will no longer be top commander there;

(2)they gain LIBERAL SUPPORT FOR MCPAIN for attacking Bush in a sideways fashion by attacking the general and his efforts;

(3)they will obtain for him, McPain, more face time with his primary constituency, the media.

Every action of McPain is about one thing - HIM.


10 posted on 02/01/2007 12:19:50 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

McCain needs to meet Shutta...


Shutta he** up!!


11 posted on 02/01/2007 12:21:25 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I believe it was at Cold Harbor where there were horrific casualties suffered including a disastrous third assault where his troops were slaughtered. Grant was quoted as saying," It's been a helluva day. We'll get 'em tomorrow". No one accused him of sticking with a disastrous policy. War is awful.


12 posted on 02/01/2007 12:25:41 PM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Both McCain and Hillary are going to lose their parties' nominations. They will then pair up to create an "independent ticket". You read it hear first.
13 posted on 02/01/2007 12:25:48 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Mcnut is getting nutter all the time.


14 posted on 02/01/2007 12:25:50 PM PST by jocko12
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To: Wuli

So true.


15 posted on 02/01/2007 12:29:32 PM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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To: Jaysun
McCain is just being a pompous ass

The Democrats have Biden, We have McCain.

16 posted on 02/01/2007 12:30:04 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: msnimje
I will enjoy watching McCain lose primary after primary next year.

Another example of when the buttons are pushed The Manchurian Candidate attacks the United States Military.

I too will be more than happy when McCain gives up on his campaign.

17 posted on 02/01/2007 12:31:45 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Oh Gawd .....spare us....


18 posted on 02/01/2007 12:33:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: lowbridge

I don't think he is fit to be a Senator, let alone a nominee. Your experience matches what others have sensed from various sources. In Arizona he was known for screaming at the governor, who always seemed rather timid anyway.

I do not think he is a good man. He is an egomaniac for no good reason. What has he ever achieved? Daddy was the admiral in charge of the fleet. McCain was a womanizer, has VD, and dumped his handicapped wife for a rich second wife.

I think he would make a great dogcatcher. I would vote for that office for him.


19 posted on 02/01/2007 12:33:24 PM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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To: lowbridge
JOHN MCCAIN is NOT FIT TO LEAD THIS NATION.

I think you might have something here. I don't know how anyone could endure what he did as a POW (God bless him) and not have some residule effects.

20 posted on 02/01/2007 12:42:14 PM PST by RichRepublican (Some days you're the windshield--some days you're the bug.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I seriously doubt it - their egos are too big for either to take the VP slot; and even if she would, would YOU want to be the only thing standing between Hillary and the Presidency?


21 posted on 02/01/2007 12:45:42 PM PST by NoBullZone (Attempting to dispel ... bull*hit)
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To: RichRepublican
I don't know how anyone could endure what he did as a POW (God bless him) and not have some residule effects.

That reminds me of another, former, Senator. I believe it was Jeremiah Denton (I could be wrong). He too was a POW in Vietnam who ran and was elected in 1981 as a solid conservative Republican. Yet he voted like a liberal. In frustration, one of his fellow Republicans yelled at him: "What did they (the Democrats) do to you that the Vietcong couldn't?"

Jeremiah served only one term as the people replaced him with a Democrat (Shelby).

22 posted on 02/01/2007 1:03:55 PM PST by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democrat Party". - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I can sorta concur with McCain (that the effort in Iraq has been disappointing in a general sense) while still believing that his highly-public comments are little more than Hagel-ian grandstanding. "Look at ME! I'm a MAVERICK!"


23 posted on 02/01/2007 1:07:55 PM PST by pogo101
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To: sine_nomine

Now that was a little strong I think. I'm not going to defend his stance on many issues, but to answer the question "what has he ever achieved?" - try survival of 5 and half years in a Vietnamese prison. He was also awarded the Silver Star and Distinguished Flying Cross among other decorations. Having his "Daddy" as Admiral was not exactly a perk when it came to his prison time. He may be all wrong on some issues but he is a patriot.


24 posted on 02/01/2007 1:20:39 PM PST by The Inspector
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To: The Inspector
He may be all wrong on some issues but he is a patriot.

I think he is a patriot ....I was very impressed with his demeanor when he and Lieberman addresed the AEI session (shown on CSPAN ) regarding Iraq after they returned from there.

25 posted on 02/01/2007 1:26:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Inwoodian
No one accused him of sticking with a disastrous policy.

Grant's 'policy' (which was approved by Lincoln) was to wear the Army of Northern Virginia down and force it to fight openly where the superior force of the Army of the Potomac would win. That was not a disastrous policy. The problem was that Lee was too successful getting his army always behind virtually insurmountable entrenchments, and the staff of the Army of the Potomac, from Mead's level on down, was woefully slow in getting things done, and even incompetent - which greatly contributed to Lee's success. Bruce Catton hits this nail on the head in his 'A Stillness At Appomattox'

It wasn't the policy, per se, that caused the war to drag on another year from the date Grant crossed the Rapidan.

26 posted on 02/01/2007 1:34:15 PM PST by bcsco
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To: The Inspector

Well, there are different versions of his captivity. I was not there so I will judge him on his constant back-stabbing behavior in the Senate, dumping his handicapped wife, etc.


27 posted on 02/01/2007 2:36:03 PM PST by sine_nomine (The United States...shall protect each of them against invasion. Article IV, 4. US Constition)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is obvious that there is a desire to avoid all mention of Iran and Syria's involvement. Last summer, when Iran and Syria were involved with Syria, there efforts in Iraq wained. It was at that time we saw improvements in Iraq and a sense of optimism that our policy was working. Once Iraq and Syria turned back their focus on Iraq, things deteriorated quickly; in time for the November elections and the conditions we see now.

What is not told is that Iran and Syria have limits on their resources to sustain their efforts. When they have bottomed out, victory will be at hand.


28 posted on 02/01/2007 2:45:30 PM PST by jonrick46 (P)
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To: lowbridge
I am sure John McCain is a good man - but listen to me - and please believe me. JOHN MCCAIN is NOT FIT TO LEAD THIS NATION. John McCain is unstable. John McCain is freaking nuts!

And that basically sums up everything I and others on this forum have said about the man.

I personally believe it has everything to do with his torture during the war but whatever the reason, he is unfit in that he is unstable, unpredictable and can come unhinged in a heartbeat.

Nothing person against him but I would truly vote for The Beast before I would vote for this man.

29 posted on 02/01/2007 3:51:41 PM PST by evad
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To: lowbridge

Thanks for repeating your McCain personaql experience. McCain seems to blame Bush for his failure in S.C. and I often wondered what actually happened there. Now I see and it fits what others have said about McCain's temper.


30 posted on 02/01/2007 10:20:43 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: lowbridge
I'd like to add a link to your post to my list with your permission.

The Real McCain

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

John McCain Is No Hero

U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

JOHN MCCAIN, WARTS AND ALL

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts... (thread by Jim Robinson)

McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists

McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)

McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero

Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)

Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]

McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)

McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats

Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)

McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)

John McCain Goes Left for Money

Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain

31 posted on 02/02/2007 12:26:06 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: All
...John McCain, the leading Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, today took to task Gen. George Casey, the top American commander in Iraq, accusing him of being the architect of a failed strategy and failing to take the correct steps to improve the security situation....

I GUESS SOME OLD “HABITS” NEVER GO AWAY…. A TRAITOR CAN BE A TRAITOR ANY TIME… WATCH YOUR BACK!

What this man did to his own party goes straight to the quality of his character. "With friends like these who needs enemies!" the saying goes and could not apply any better in this case.

Live and learn my friends, check out the links… The first one may take a few seconds but it’s still active.

http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/HughHewitt/2006/11/08/the_road_not_taken__forfeiting_a_majority

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/Transcript_Page.aspx?ContentGuid=27647fd2-19d7-41a8-8d20-202424db1ea8


32 posted on 02/02/2007 6:56:54 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends - basically :) - despite our differences)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Thanks for repeating your McCain personaql experience.

THat's not MY personal experience. That experience belongs to "Jake The Goose".

33 posted on 02/02/2007 2:12:42 PM PST by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democrat Party". - Rush Limbaugh)
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