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A crime they won't talk about (media runs like scared cracker from black-on-white hate crime trial)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | February 3, 2007 | Peter Huck

Posted on 02/02/2007 8:25:57 AM PST by dead

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1 posted on 02/02/2007 8:26:01 AM PST by dead
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The Times agonised that laws designed to prosecute hate crimes - defined by Congress in 1992 as "motivated by hatred, bias or prejudice, based on the actual or perceived race, colour, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation or gender identity of another individual or group of individuals" - might end up "punishing blacks".

Some animals are equal, but...

2 posted on 02/02/2007 8:28:24 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dead

There are far more black-on-white hate crimes than the other way around.

Anyone who says otherwise hasn't looked at the crime statistics.


3 posted on 02/02/2007 8:28:40 AM PST by CheyennePress
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"Group beatings are extremely common in juvenile crimes,"

Because they are basically cowards. You'll never see these jackholes picking a fair fight that they might lose.

4 posted on 02/02/2007 8:33:34 AM PST by wizecrakker (Trying to behave)
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To: dead

Thank you dead,

beware: NY times has you on their black-list.

If it wasnt for you, I'd have to pickup my usual "SYDNEY Morning Herald" along with my bagel w/cream cheese and coffee this morning.

Isnt it poignant that it still had to take some rag from AUSTRALIA to read this.


5 posted on 02/02/2007 8:44:20 AM PST by trappedinnj
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To: dead
"I think the case will redefine how Americans look at hate crimes," Hutchinson says."

Oh? How many Americans are even going to read, see or hear about this story? The MSM won't because their idea of freedom of speech and the press ONLY applies to their agenda.

6 posted on 02/02/2007 8:45:49 AM PST by moonman
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"media's inability to get a handle on a story that reversed stereotypes"

It's stereotypical that whites assault blacks? In Bizarro World maybe.


7 posted on 02/02/2007 8:48:02 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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The Advancement Project believes $US1 billion ($1.3 billion) is needed to create jobs, or improve education and public health in areas where 300,000 youngsters are at risk of joining gangs. Quite how Los Angeles, already pressed to fix its crumbling infrastructure, will find the money is unsure.

Consultant Ned: You must build a giant catapult. To fire the greatest of projectiles at the sloths of Los Angeles.

Sir Arthur: What kind of projectile?

(Consultant Ned throws a portfolio/sack upon the roundtable)

Consultant Ned: This.

Sir Arthur: Are you suggesting we throw money at the problem?

Consultant Net: Precisely.

8 posted on 02/02/2007 8:55:06 AM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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There is no authority in our Constitution(s) for arresting, let alone sending to trial and convicting, a person in the United States, for a "hate crime;" indeed, our Constitution only authorizes the taking away of personal liberty, for a violent act.

There is no authority to arrest somebody for not liking somebody else or even *saying that they don't like somebody else.*

While liberals and people seeking revenge, fantasize that **THINKING IS VIOLENT** because they must find, somehow, "violence" in all that they oppose --- in order to justify thought police state actions --- they have no Constitutional ground upon which to arrest what displeases them and theirs.

The point is, that one of the major ojections among our Founding Fathers (and their ancestors), which gave rise to our new country, was that in the old country, there was too much, and in the history of other countries, there was too much:

Abuse by government - wherein these governments arrested people and usually locked them away in some dungeon, because of what they were thinking, alleged or otherwise.

Our Founding Fathers were ardently opposed to Thought Police State Authority.

Now, because so much "hate crime" prosecution has resulted in a very great bias in fact and in the liberal media and in the public eye ... where so-called "minorities" have been the "victims," there have been occasions when "the white people" have been set upon by so-called "minorities," and some in the public want to enforce "hate crimes" prosecutions, in order to, putting it mildly, "reverse [the long overdue] discrimination."

Does not matter - their wishes to reverse things or get revenge - it is not Constitutional, and ALL "hate crimes" criminal statutes should be promptly revoked and torn up.

They are an abomination and grievous affront to our Constitution, which originally intended that our government(s) not get into the business of Thought Police Actions --- see the First Amendment!

9 posted on 02/02/2007 8:56:50 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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There are several accounts of the incident that are more explicit than what has been reported. The hate of this crime exceeds or equals that of any rabid Klansman. Ironic that if the roles were reversed, the MSM would not shirk reporting those specifics.
10 posted on 02/02/2007 8:57:57 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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indeed, our Constitution only authorizes the taking away of personal liberty, for a violent act.

Can you provide a specific reference in the USC to support this? Best as I am aware, it says we can't deprive one of life, liberty, or property without due process. No mention of a violent act. Care to provide a constitutional analysis?

11 posted on 02/02/2007 9:00:06 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: I see my hands

Sadly, here in the US, all our big cities are going to become like LA. Millions of Latinos moving into the cities, into formerly black neighborhoods, taking low-skill jobs. Illegals make it worse because they take the low-end jobs and will work under the table if necessary.

Urban black culture has become so coarse and violent that mainstream whites (and others) will not hire young blacks. Their education is so non-existent as to make them unemployable. Their bad attitude doesn't help, either.

Blacks and Latinos fighting it out in the ghetto. Meanwhile, Asians are becoming the technocratic elite (at least here in CA), and whites are fleeing to the exurbs.

I am retiring very soon. And I am not going to live anywhere NEAR a big city. Between the race riots and the terror attacks, I'll take rural nowhere, thanks.


12 posted on 02/02/2007 9:00:52 AM PST by sdillard
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Thanks for catching that - I did too, as soon as I posted it.

This is a classic example of my being tired and not getting down on paper what I meant to say, here and there.

I was referring to the distinction between what a person is thinking, during the commission of a violent act, and the violent act itself; a situation, I hope that you'll understand.

We may arrest for the violent act, and charge the perp for that, but we may not charge the perp (piling on charges) for his/her thinking.

It's one count, not two.

My apologies for writing hastily.

13 posted on 02/02/2007 9:06:41 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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No problem, I just thought I had missed something. Keep the faith! ;-)


14 posted on 02/02/2007 9:07:50 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: sdillard

Be true to the 2nd amendment even in rural America.

Criminals are common to all groups.


15 posted on 02/02/2007 9:15:23 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: dead
Seinfeld's Michael Richards was castigated for saying "nigger" - so insulting it cannot be used in US media - while ranting at hecklers in a Los Angeles club.

The complete spelling actually made it to print (in an Australian paper).

16 posted on 02/02/2007 9:16:36 AM PST by Spirochete
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Ironic that if the roles were reversed, the MSM would not shirk reporting those specifics.

Editorial policy based on complexion, hair texture, facial features.

17 posted on 02/02/2007 9:19:03 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: First_Salute

Good grief, you still think that the Constitution has anything to do with how law is practiced in this country - get a clue!


18 posted on 02/02/2007 9:45:48 AM PST by GregoryFul (There's no truth in the New York Times)
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We may arrest for the violent act, and charge the perp for that, but we may not charge the perp (piling on charges) for his/her thinking.

So you would say we should make no distinction between an accidentally fatal shooting and premeditated murder?

The fact is, the motivation behind an act always has been and always will be relevant.

19 posted on 02/02/2007 9:54:56 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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""I think the case will redefine how Americans look at hate crimes," Hutchinson says. "Traditionally, African-Americans were victims."

This is baloney. Since the introduction of hate crime laws the majority of perps have been black and the majority of victims white and latino. The media has always misrepresented the facts to play on white guilt.


20 posted on 02/02/2007 9:56:52 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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