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New York Times: Continuing end of last ice-age, not human activity, cause of warming trend
The New York Times Archives | May 15, 1932 | SPECIAL SECTON SUPPLEMENT

Posted on 02/03/2007 1:25:07 PM PST by nwrep

From a bygone era when reasoned scientific analysis held sway:
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NEXT GREAT DELUGE FORECAST BY SCIENCE

WE still speak of "the Ice Age" as if it belonged to the remote geological past. Geologists have reached the conclusion that there were several ice ages. What is more, the last Ice Age, known as the Quaternary, is only about half over, despite our blistering Summers.

Very slowly, the great ice sheets in the Arctic and the Antarctic regions are melting and pouring their torrents into the ocean.

The earth must inevitably change its aspect and its climate.

How the change is slowly taking place and what the result will be has been considered by geologists, physicists, and meteorologists.

In the course of about 700,000 years, the glacial sheets that now cover the North and South poles have melted down to their present area of 6,000,000 square miles from 12,000,000 square miles in extent.

The earth is steadily getting warmer. As all the ice at the two poles melts, a stupendous volume of water will be released. Professor Edgeworth David of the University of Sydney conservatively estimates that the sea level will rise fifty feet.

Such floods are nothing new, as we see from the marine fossils found on the tops of the Rockies, Andes and other mountain ranges.

So within 30,000 to 40,000 years, there will be another deluge. Salt water will sweep over the continents, leaving only the higher lands dry. Holland will be inundated. Fish will swim in the Buckingham Palace. The desert of Sahara will be a great inland sea. Palms and alligators will flourish at the poles, as they did millions of years ago.

No one can tell what would happen if a new carboniferous era should follow the warming of the earth. Man is about as old as the present Ice Age. It is a question if he will survive it.


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1 posted on 02/03/2007 1:25:12 PM PST by nwrep
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To: nwrep
My heart was full of gladness and wonder - "did the NYT finally get it?" - that thought actually crossed my mind.

Then I read the article date.

< sigh >

2 posted on 02/03/2007 1:27:44 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nwrep

3 posted on 02/03/2007 1:28:44 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: nwrep

The ICE AGE and its END through 100% natural activity with zero relation to man activities is the silver bullet that kills any of this Human-related Global Warming BS and lies.


4 posted on 02/03/2007 1:31:29 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: nwrep
The New York Times Archives | May 15, 1932 | SPECIAL SECTON SUPPLEMENT

Great find!

5 posted on 02/03/2007 1:31:31 PM PST by andyandval
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To: Izzy Dunne

The New York Times was instrumental in exposing the Boss Tweed democratic political corruption machine operating within Tammany Hall... but that was quite some time ago.


6 posted on 02/03/2007 1:32:53 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: nwrep
Professor Edgeworth David of the University of Sydney conservatively estimates that the sea level will rise fifty feet.

LOL most of the rational estimates I've seen say the sea levels will rise about 10 to 15 feet.
7 posted on 02/03/2007 1:34:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: nwrep; SunkenCiv
thanks for posting...

The earth must inevitably change its aspect and its climate.

from 1932!

8 posted on 02/03/2007 1:35:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: mainepatsfan

As I recall, there was a prediction of an Ice age somewhere in the late '60's thru mid-70's as well. So we've had a Warming (30's-40's), Ice Age(60's - 70's), Warming (90's-00's).

At least we'll have the Carbon Tax in place to pay for our increased heating bills when the prediction swings back to Ice Age in about 15 - 20 years.

Am I the only one getting weary of dealing with these people?


9 posted on 02/03/2007 1:37:21 PM PST by CJBama
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To: nwrep
IMO, no responsible scientist would ignore the fact that we're still coming out of an Ice Age, and the Earth is heating up on its own (with the help of the Sun of course). That's the vastly over-riding force behind the warming temperatures.

But that's not the entire story. The NYT article from 1932 speaks of 30,000-40,000 years for the temperature to get back up to where it was long ago. The problem seen by the "global warming" alarmists is that the rate of change in the past 100 years indicates a far faster rise in temperature than was foreseen 75 years ago. The problems foreseen 75 years ago might happen far sooner than 30,000 years at present rates of change. But who knows????

Look, the Earth does what it wants to do, regardless of mankind's activities. We can, and perhaps are, making it happen somewhat sooner than it otherwise would. So maybe we get uncomfortable and wet sooner than otherwise. Thing is, we don't know and can't really tell. There's no "control" alongside this experiment.

Mankind survives by being adaptive. We'll adapt, and the ones that don't, won't make it. That's life.

10 posted on 02/03/2007 1:38:14 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: nwrep

I believe that man does indeed have some impact on the planet. The extent of that impact, however, is probably overblown. It is a good thing to try to lessen emissions and increase gas mileage. Lessening our dependence on foreign oil is in our national interest.


11 posted on 02/03/2007 1:39:43 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Tremendous - now someone needs to find the physical paper and re-publish it.


12 posted on 02/03/2007 1:41:03 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: andyandval
The New York Times Archives | May 15, 1932 | SPECIAL SECTON SUPPLEMENT

I knew it was too good to be true ... (NYT in 2007, that is)

13 posted on 02/03/2007 1:42:26 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: doug from upland

one really has nothing to do with the other.


14 posted on 02/03/2007 1:42:43 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: mainepatsfan

Cool movie


15 posted on 02/03/2007 1:43:21 PM PST by wastedyears ( "Gun control is hitting your target accurately." - Richard Marcinko)
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To: CJBama

They were for global cooling before they were against it.


16 posted on 02/03/2007 1:43:48 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: wastedyears

It certainly didn't put a bad spin on the glaciers melting.


17 posted on 02/03/2007 1:44:29 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: cripplecreek

I wonde how much it's rose ( risen ?) since 1932


18 posted on 02/03/2007 1:45:15 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: jveritas
The ICE AGE and its END through 100% natural activity with zero relation to man activities is the silver bullet that should kill any of this Human-related Global Warming BS and lies.

There.
I fixed it.

19 posted on 02/03/2007 1:49:49 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

Agree and thanks :)


20 posted on 02/03/2007 1:50:45 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: nwrep

That's what I've bben telling the GW morons for years.


21 posted on 02/03/2007 1:50:46 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: nwrep
What is more, the last Ice Age, known as the Quaternary, is only about half over, despite our blistering Summers.

Paging Al Gore, your beloved commie fishwrap had you exposed before your carbon footprint was a twinkle in your parents eye.

Great find and bookmarked!

22 posted on 02/03/2007 1:51:35 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: nwrep

Excellent, bookmarked.


23 posted on 02/03/2007 1:51:39 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: nwrep
The desert of Sahara will be a great inland sea.

Praise be to Allah!

24 posted on 02/03/2007 1:51:42 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: doug from upland
> I believe that man does indeed have some impact on the planet. The extent of that impact, however, is probably overblown. It is a good thing to try to lessen emissions and increase gas mileage. Lessening our dependence on foreign oil is in our national interest.

Precisely correct.

Couldn't have said it better myself. (see my #10)

25 posted on 02/03/2007 1:53:11 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: All

"The earth must inevitably change its aspect and its climate."


26 posted on 02/03/2007 1:53:24 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Izzy Dunne

May be Al gore can save us by bringing on global cooling. He spoke here two weeks ago and now we are having the coldest temps in a decade.


27 posted on 02/03/2007 2:01:23 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: doug from upland
Yup we may do so but will the chinese? Indians? Now about the rest of the non-western world?

The angst regarding global warming and the msm's crusade is perfectly positively correlated. Now that is a statistic you can bet the farm on. Everything else is voodoo science.

28 posted on 02/03/2007 2:03:18 PM PST by bubman
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Catastrophism

29 posted on 02/03/2007 2:07:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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30 posted on 02/03/2007 2:07:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The Global Warming fanatics need a simple lesson in history.

The should start by doing some simple reading about the Vikings, specifically their experiences in Greenland and the Newfoundland coasts between the 10th Century and the 13th Century. They might try some actual science instead of clinging mindlessly to their faith in the Church of Environmental Extremism with it's fanatic allegiance to the dogma of Man Made Global Warming

31 posted on 02/03/2007 2:11:27 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: 75thOVI; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; Brujo; CGVet58; Chani; ..
Whoops, forgot to include the ping list. [blush]

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32 posted on 02/03/2007 2:11:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: nwrep

Thanks for this...


33 posted on 02/03/2007 2:12:07 PM PST by kajingawd (Humans share 50.6% of their DNA with bananas...most my friends are bananas)
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To: SunkenCiv

what's this? blue if by water and red if by fire? I think I like it!


34 posted on 02/03/2007 2:13:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: SunkenCiv
..And I have the glacial gouges in my yard (in the exposed early Permian limestone) to prove it.
35 posted on 02/03/2007 2:17:04 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: MNJohnnie
They should study the 2000 year old domesticated grape vines being discovered under the receding ice in Greenland
36 posted on 02/03/2007 2:20:20 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: SunkenCiv

BUMP!


37 posted on 02/03/2007 2:24:26 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: nwrep

But but but - it can't be, I wont believe it. Algore told me so - it's us. IT'S US I TELL YOU. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
(the last sound heard before thousands of liberal heads were heard exploding all over the world).


38 posted on 02/03/2007 2:25:00 PM PST by generalhammond (Can you lie with a straight face - auditions held now for the Rat president of the USA)
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To: nwrep

I am new to Freep so I thought I might make a suggestion in this topic. I saw the most incredibly stupid interview of Laurie David on the Saturday "Today" show. She talked about ways we individually can curb global warming by unplugging our cellphone chargers (farse)changing to flourescent bulbs (farse) and use recycled paper towels to save "virgin trees" What the heck is a virgin tree? If someone could post the transcript and make a new thread it would be guaranteed to be a hit here. Thanks for helping expose the idiots in the MSM.!!!!


39 posted on 02/03/2007 2:26:33 PM PST by Robb1957 (Patriot that knows he's RIGHT.)
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To: nwrep

I think their diet has a major influence on their writing. No red meat.


40 posted on 02/03/2007 2:30:50 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk

bump


41 posted on 02/03/2007 2:32:02 PM PST by americanbychoice3
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To: Fred Nerks

It was one of the old prototypes I had when I worked on the others, I just uploaded it (and another one that isn't as flashy) today. :')


42 posted on 02/03/2007 2:32:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xcamel
They should study the 2000 year old domesticated grape vines being discovered under the receding ice in Greenland
Is there a topic or other link on that?
43 posted on 02/03/2007 2:33:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: generalhammond

Do you think Al had inventing Global Warming next on his "to do" list right after inventing the internet?


44 posted on 02/03/2007 2:33:34 PM PST by Robb1957 (Patriot that knows he's RIGHT.)
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To: jveritas
YOU CAN'T KILL AN IDEA - ESPECIALLY A BAD IDEA!
45 posted on 02/03/2007 2:34:11 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Fascism was an idea. So was Bushido.
46 posted on 02/03/2007 2:35:43 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: nwrep

I forwarded this link to Rush. Maybe he'll see it.


47 posted on 02/03/2007 2:36:05 PM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: Fred Nerks

BTW Did we have SUV's in 1932?
barbra ann


48 posted on 02/03/2007 2:36:31 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: nwrep
We can all take comfort in the fact that despite global warming [fact or fiction] eventually all LIVING things DIE.

That includes planet earth, our sun and with it our Solar System, the Milky Way Galaxy and eventually the UNIVERSE.

So, whether you drive your cars and use all the fossil fuel the earth has to offer, or make a car that runs on water, and pollutant free, in the end it doesn't matter one iota.

49 posted on 02/03/2007 2:39:50 PM PST by PISANO
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To: barb-tex

I thought that since hollywood is telling us that we all can do little things that when they add up-they become real big things, so...
Why doesn't every American drop one ice cube into a stream or river near them, and we could fix this evil GW thing. School kids could get involved and make field trips out of it and stuff. One Cube at a Time-there is a song there somewhere.....


50 posted on 02/03/2007 2:39:57 PM PST by Robb1957 (Patriot that knows he's RIGHT.)
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