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Texas Girls Will Get HPV Vaccine
News Observer ^ | 02/03/07 | Liz Austin Peterson

Posted on 02/05/2007 7:13:36 AM PST by Froufrou

Bypassing the Legislature altogether, Republican Gov. Rick Perry issued an order Friday making Texas the first state to require that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that can cause cervical cancer.

By using an executive order, Perry sidestepped opposition in the Legislature from conservatives and parents-rights groups who fear such a requirement would seem to condone premarital sex and interfere with the way Texans raise their children.

Beginning in September 2008, girls entering the sixth grade -- meaning, generally, girls ages 11 and 12 -- will have to receive Gardasil, Merck & Co.'s new vaccine against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV.

Perry also directed state health authorities to make the vaccine available free to girls 9 to 18 who are uninsured or whose insurance does not cover vaccines. In addition, he ordered that Medicaid offer Gardasil to women ages 19 to 21.

Perry, a conservative Christian who opposes abortion and stem-cell research using embryonic cells, counts on the religious right for his political base. But he has said the cervical cancer vaccine is no different from the one that protects children against polio.

"The HPV vaccine provides us with an incredible opportunity to effectively target and prevent cervical cancer," Perry said.

Merck is bankrolling efforts to pass state laws across the country mandating Gardasil for girls as young as 11 or 12. It doubled its lobbying budget in Texas and has funneled money through Women in Government, an advocacy group made up of female state legislators around the country.

Perry has ties to Merck and Women in Government. One of the drug company's three lobbyists in Texas is Mike Toomey, Perry's former chief of staff. His current chief of staff's mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi, is a state director for Women in Government.

The governor also received $6,000 from Merck's political action committee during his re-election campaign.

The order is effective until Perry or a successor changes it, and the Legislature has no authority to repeal it, said Perry spokeswoman Krista Moody. Moody said the Texas Constitution permits the governor to order other members of the executive branch to adopt rules like this one.

Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing affidavits objecting to vaccines on religious or philosophical reasons. Even with such provisions, however, conservative groups say such requirements interfere with parents' rights to make medical decisions for their children.


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1 posted on 02/05/2007 7:13:38 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: presidio9; JamesP81; weegee; LucyT; Shimmer128; RexBeach; Red Badger; pissant; dead; wideawake; ...

This is just wrong on so many levels ping!


2 posted on 02/05/2007 7:15:18 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Does the governor in Texas have the authority to ORDER people to take a particular medicine?
3 posted on 02/05/2007 7:15:55 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Froufrou

Even Republicans have tolitarians


4 posted on 02/05/2007 7:16:10 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: Froufrou

So by requiring these vaccinations, the state is throwing in the towel and accepting that all girls are going to be exposed? Is there no personal responsibility at all?

I suspect a pharmaceutical company (Merck) did one heck of a sales job on the State of Texas.


5 posted on 02/05/2007 7:17:19 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Froufrou

Maybe Governor Perry watches "Friday Night Lights" and assumes that all school girls are engaged in promiscuous sex.


6 posted on 02/05/2007 7:18:31 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Froufrou
There will come a time when the law becomes so unjust that I would surely be arrested and thrown UNDER the jail for rebelling against it. A few more years and I'll have my kids raised, then i'll just pity them for raising their kids under such an oppressive government.
I would not have my daughter, if i had one, vaccinated with this vaccine, we don't even know for sure how safe it is and why Big Daddy gov't should have control over any part of our bodies, i can't imagine.

7 posted on 02/05/2007 7:21:14 AM PST by Shimmer128 (**The best things in life aren't free, they are priceless)
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To: Froufrou

Further proof that GOP increasingly stands for nothing and is becoming indistinguishable from that other party.

This is NOT a cervical cancer vaccine! It is a HPV virus vaccine,which is contracted by being sexually promiscuous. While HPV may lead to cancer, the vaccine is only necessary if we say to our daughters "go ahead, be a slut"


8 posted on 02/05/2007 7:22:40 AM PST by almcbean
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To: hubbubhubbub; TommyDale; BenLurkin

Perry has a close friend who was a lobbyist and now works for Merck, IIRC.

No vote, AND we have to foot the bill??? What next, mandatory GYN exams? Chastity chips???


9 posted on 02/05/2007 7:23:08 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

It's wonderful that there is a vaccine for this.
Making it mandatory for anyone is wrong.


10 posted on 02/05/2007 7:24:19 AM PST by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Shimmer128; Froufrou

I wonder what NOW and the other feminists think about this? They have been telling us for decades that a woman's body is her own and that no one can tell them what they can or cannot do with it. This ought to be quite a nice little conundrum for them......


11 posted on 02/05/2007 7:25:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Froufrou

I don't see anything wrong with having the vaccine, other than the government bureacracy involved here. Considering that Cervical cancer is the only known cancer caused by a virus, why not get a vaccine for it? Especially when cervical cancer has such a devestating treatment.


12 posted on 02/05/2007 7:26:10 AM PST by ConservatismNow
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To: almcbean; Shimmer128; HoustonCurmudgeon; Eaker; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; humblegunner; bobbyd; ...

This is further proof that he will ramrod that #!%^!#%^ Trans Texas Corridor no matter what we, the people, think about it.

Ping.


13 posted on 02/05/2007 7:26:17 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
He has completely lost the plot. It's nice that a vaccine is available, but unless we're talking a typhoid epidemic, there's no reason for him to mandate any vaccine.

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 02/05/2007 7:26:21 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Froufrou
Perry won reelection, for the state's many conservatives, based on his "pro-family values" and "conservative agenda."

This action insults not only each and every Texan, but most especially those who are conservative and pro-family.

He now appears to be yet another "compassionate conservative" meaning for every liberal, nanny state, individual rights grabbing idea. Why, because it "sounds" like he "cares" for "the people."

He needs to be removed from office and each of his "executive" mandates, rescinded.

15 posted on 02/05/2007 7:26:53 AM PST by zerosix
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To: Froufrou
Moody said the Texas Constitution permits the governor to order other members of the executive branch to adopt rules like this one.

What the Constitution does not give the Governor is the authority to practice medicine.

Since a vaccination is a MEDICAL procedure, Governor Perry is practicing medicine without a license.

16 posted on 02/05/2007 7:28:19 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: BenLurkin

"Does the governor in Texas have the authority to ORDER people to take a particular medicine?"

No, and he didn't.

He ordered the vaccine be made available. PARENTS CAN OPT OUT FOR RELIGIOUS OR MORAL GROUNDS.

Me? I wouldn't want my daughters to die because they or their future husbands made a stupid mistake, so I would not object.


17 posted on 02/05/2007 7:28:49 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Froufrou
"Perry has a close friend who was a lobbyist and now works for Merck"??

Hmmmm....


18 posted on 02/05/2007 7:29:33 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: MadIvan

I agree that the vaccine is great to have a available, but it should be voluntary.

And if I had a daughter, she'd get it.... I mean, you can have sex just one time and get the HPV virus. Rape, just making one bad decision or having an unfaithful spouse is all it takes.


19 posted on 02/05/2007 7:30:15 AM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: Red Badger; MadIvan; conservativenow; nuconvert

I went to the site and saw adverse side effects of headache, pelvic inflammatory disease, bronchospasm and asthma during the first 1-15 days. I don't like that!

I've always thought they've known for eons that cancers [all] are caused by viruses. Red, your arguement caveats the whole reason the GOP is 'supposed' to be different from the 'rats, that we're 'supposed' to be anti-big govt.

It's not as if there's an epidemic as with other mandatory immunizations.


20 posted on 02/05/2007 7:31:28 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Are there any data on the cases where HPV vaccine has an unintended effect? Surely there are some such cases. Surely it's up to the parents to decide if they want to take those risks. Isn't it?


21 posted on 02/05/2007 7:31:42 AM PST by Mad Dawg ("It's our humility which makes us great." -- Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers)
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To: Froufrou
The distinction has to be made - is a disease providing a clear and present danger to public health; namely, can one walk into a room and give everyone bird flu? If so, then yes, mandatory vaccinations are permissable as it is preventing the community from being wiped out.

In this case, it's more difficult to catch, and there is an element of choice in catching it (one doesn't HAVE to have sex). By all means, the vaccine should be available. If the Governor had gotten the drug companies to give a discount, he should be applauded - but that's not what he's doing.

Regards, Ivan

22 posted on 02/05/2007 7:35:10 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: BenLurkin; zerosix; MamaTexan

There's something very ugly about all this. It's very powermad, I think. What if this vaccine has not had sufficient trial? What if we have a huge Gen. Next down the road who can't have kids themselves or have some other permanent side effect?


23 posted on 02/05/2007 7:35:13 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

If I lived in Texas and had a daughter, and could not opt out, I would move. This smells like the Soviet Union!


24 posted on 02/05/2007 7:36:48 AM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

"PARENTS CAN OPT OUT FOR RELIGIOUS OR MORAL GROUNDS."

And seat belt laws are never going to be a primary offense. And your SSN will never be used as an identifier. And you can do anything you want with property you own.

In 10 years your "opt out" clause will be a quaint memory.


25 posted on 02/05/2007 7:37:38 AM PST by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Are there any data on the cases where HPV vaccine has an unintended effect? Surely there are some such cases. Surely it's up to the parents to decide if they want to take those risks. Isn't it?

Scroll through this thread. There's lot's of good links & information.

26 posted on 02/05/2007 7:38:52 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: VRing

bttt


27 posted on 02/05/2007 7:38:54 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Mad Dawg; penowa; LucyT; MadIvan

'religious or philosophical' opting out? Won't this truly label the family?

I think they even tested males with their trials. Hmmm...


28 posted on 02/05/2007 7:39:01 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: MeanWestTexan
>>>>>>"He ordered the vaccine be made available. PARENTS CAN OPT OUT FOR RELIGIOUS OR MORAL GROUNDS"<<<<<<<

Parents may soon be able to "OPT OUT" because Perry may find his A$$ on the street.

There are far many more reasons to opt out than Religious or Moral grounds.

What is it with Nanny Staters that love the boots of Government bearing down on the back of their necks?

TT
29 posted on 02/05/2007 7:40:15 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Froufrou
I am beginning to wonder if Kinky Friedman was the better bet.

Regards, Ivan

30 posted on 02/05/2007 7:40:21 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MamaTexan

"Since a vaccination is a MEDICAL procedure, Governor Perry is practicing medicine without a license."

The authority is in the Education Code. Same authority that requires all the other vaccinations (measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus) for school kids.


31 posted on 02/05/2007 7:41:11 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
No, and he didn't. He ordered the vaccine be made available. PARENTS CAN OPT OUT FOR RELIGIOUS OR MORAL GROUNDS.

No, he ordered that it be mandatory for all girls entering the sixth grade, with parental opt-out provisions that may or may not be ignored by schools.

Me? I wouldn't want my daughters to die because they or their future husbands made a stupid mistake, so I would not object.

How would you like for your 11 or 12 y/o daughter to die from an allergic reation to a vaccination that has had inadequate testing.

32 posted on 02/05/2007 7:41:34 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: VRing

Exactly!


33 posted on 02/05/2007 7:42:15 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: MadIvan; All

Me, too.

I was right. The trials included tests on males 9-15:

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf


34 posted on 02/05/2007 7:42:33 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: VRing

"In 10 years your "opt out" clause will be a quaint memory."

Nonsense. You can still opt out of all vaccinations, and have been able to since the polio vaccine came out.


35 posted on 02/05/2007 7:42:36 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: TommyDale
I suspect a pharmaceutical company (Merck) did one heck of a sales job on the State of Texas.

Rick Perry's former chief of staff is a lobbyist for them. 'nuff said.
36 posted on 02/05/2007 7:42:37 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: BenLurkin
Does the governor in Texas have the authority to ORDER people to take a particular medicine?

Nope, and Perry is going to get crucified for this.

37 posted on 02/05/2007 7:42:52 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Are there any data on the cases where HPV vaccine has an unintended effect? Surely there are some such cases. Surely it's up to the parents to decide if they want to take those risks. Isn't it?

The data is very limited because there has been insufficient time and testing for those potential items to surface, not to mention that the medical community has no idea what kind of super-strains of HPV will mutate as a result of this vaccination getting into contact with existing HPV and/or combinations of HPV and herpes or chlamydia.

38 posted on 02/05/2007 7:44:07 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: VRWCmember

"How would you like for your 11 or 12 y/o daughter to die from an allergic reation to a vaccination that has had inadequate testing."

Since I don't live in fantasy luddite land, I don't have to worry about that.


39 posted on 02/05/2007 7:44:16 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Froufrou
Sorry Froufrou, I missed your ping. I should have posted the link in #26 to you as well.

This thing does smell. Pardon me while I don my tinfoil hat, but I have my suspicions that it's all tied to the UN's Healthy People 2010 mess which is being used to establish a database for universal health-care.

We may not see it in our lifetimes, but our children most likely will.....with their life-long medical records from attending 'public school' to implement it.

40 posted on 02/05/2007 7:46:16 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Opt out clause in the statute;

Texas Administrative Code

Next Rule>>
TITLE 25 HEALTH SERVICES
PART 1 DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES
CHAPTER 97 COMMUNICABLE DISEASES
SUBCHAPTER B IMMUNIZATION REQUIREMENTS IN TEXAS ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION
RULE §97.62 Exclusions from Compliance

Exclusions from compliance are allowable on an individual basis for medical contraindications, reasons of conscience, including a religious belief, and active duty with the armed forces of the United States. Children and students in these categories must submit evidence for exclusion from compliance as specified in the Health and Safety Code, §161.004(d), Health and Safety Code, §161.0041, Education Code, Chapter 38, Education Code, Chapter 51, and the Human Resources Code, Chapter 42.   (1) To claim an exclusion for medical reasons, the child or student must present a statement signed by the child's physician (M.D. or D.O.), duly registered and licensed to practice medicine in the United States who has examined the child, in which it is stated that, in the physician's opinion, the vaccine required is medically contraindicated or poses a significant risk to the health and well-being of the child or any member of the child's household. Unless it is written in the statement that a lifelong condition exists, the exemption statement is valid for only one year from the date signed by the physician.

  (2) To claim an exclusion for reasons of conscience, including a religious belief, a signed affidavit must be presented by the child's parent or guardian, stating that the child's parent or guardian declines vaccinations for reasons of conscience, including because of the person's religious beliefs. The affidavit will be valid for a two-year period. The child, who has not received the required immunizations for reasons of conscience, including religious beliefs, may be excluded from school in times of emergency or epidemic declared by the commissioner of public health.

    (A) A person claiming exclusion for reasons of conscience, including a religious belief, from a required immunization may only obtain the affidavit form by submitting a written request to the department. The request must include the following:

      (i) full name of child;

      (ii) child's date of birth (month/day/year);

    (B) Written requests must be submitted through the United States Postal Service (or other commercial carrier), by facsimile, or by hand delivery to the department's Bureau of Immunization and Pharmacy Support, 1100 West 49th Street, Austin, Texas 78756.

    (C) Upon request, one affidavit form for each child will be mailed unless otherwise specified (shall not exceed a maximum of five forms per child).

    (D) The department shall not maintain a record of the names of individuals who request an affidavit and shall return the original request with the forms requested.

  (3) To claim an exclusion for armed forces, persons who can prove that they are serving on active duty with the armed forces of the United States are exempted from the requirements in these sections.


Source Note: The provisions of this §97.62 adopted to be effective April 1, 2004, 29 TexReg 3188

41 posted on 02/05/2007 7:46:29 AM PST by deport
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To: ConservatismNow
I don't see anything wrong with having the vaccine, other than the government bureacracy involved here.

I don't think anyone here is against the idea of the vaccine in general. The "government bureacracy" is everything.

Make the vaccine available, but the governor has no authority to order all schoolgirls to be given it.

42 posted on 02/05/2007 7:47:48 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: MadIvan; BenLurkin; penowa; Shimmer128; All

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA020307.01A.cancer_vaccine.1bb3b7b.html

I wish I'd found this first. The real problem with this is that it's sexual discrimination. The shots were ordered just for girls, yet boy also carry the HPV virus.

The more I think about it, the madder I get.


43 posted on 02/05/2007 7:48:18 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou; hubbubhubbub; BenLurkin; af_vet_rr

This is quite similar to the North Carolina former Speaker of the House Jim Black, an optometrist. He took thousands of blank checks as campaign donations from fellow optometrists.

Then the State Legislature passed a bill REQUIRING children 5 years old to take an eye test before being admitted to Kindergarten. Big mistake. His cohort was tried and convicted for crimes, and Black should be.


44 posted on 02/05/2007 7:49:06 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Same authority that requires all the other vaccinations (measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus) for school kids.

Which was implemented by the Texas legislature, NOT an Executive Order.

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BTW- Where in the Education code does the Governor or the legislature get a medical authority?

(Remember, in order to be a legitimate authority, the People have to give the power to the government, the government doesn't just get to say "We CAN do this")

45 posted on 02/05/2007 7:49:27 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: TexasTransplant

"There are far many more reasons to opt out than Religious or Moral grounds."

Yes, and concern about the effecacy or safety of the vaccine is one as well.

That said, the REAL reason so many Freepers have their panties in a wad about this is they THINK their little ones will never sin and dance great joy at the thought of EVIL SINNERS dying a miserable death --- getting what they deserve --- for the sin of premarital sex.

(And yes, I know premarital sex is a sin. I also know this world.)


46 posted on 02/05/2007 7:49:35 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MamaTexan

The education code gives the Governor the authority to mandate "such vaccines as are deemed necessary for the public health."

He can quaratine and do all sorts of other things, too, in the event of epidemics.


47 posted on 02/05/2007 7:50:58 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MamaTexan

"Mike Toomey, former chief of staff to Perry, is a lobbyist for Merck. The pharmaceutical company has donated $6,000 to Perry since 2005 and $38,000 to legislative leaders and lawmakers.

Merck spokesman Ray Kerins downplayed the company's role in Perry's order, saying "we're working in all 50 states to achieve the widest vaccination possible." He said those efforts vary from state to state."

$360 per shot??? Out of my pocket???

Rubbish! On Today, a woman stated that Merck has tried and failed to get this passed in 3 states prior to TX!


48 posted on 02/05/2007 7:51:27 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

The boys are free to get the shots, as well.

It would be wise for them to do so, even though they personally suffer no ill effects from the virus.


49 posted on 02/05/2007 7:52:09 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Froufrou
The mandatory nature of it combined with Perry's connections to Merck thoroughly stinks. This is wrong on many levels.

Regards, Ivan

50 posted on 02/05/2007 7:53:06 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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