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A Few of FR's Finest..Every Day..02-6,7-07..WW2: The War, The Era, The Monument, The FReeper Vets
February 6, 2007 | Dolly Howard

Posted on 02/05/2007 10:42:45 PM PST by DollyCali



A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day
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~ Billie, Dutchess, DollyCali, GodBlessUSA, Aquamarine~






World War II (abbreviated WWII), or the Second World War, was a worldwide conflict fought between the Allied Powers and the Axis Powers, from 1939 until 1945. Armed forces from over seventy nations engaged in aerial, naval, and ground-based combat. Spanning much of the globe, World War II resulted in the deaths of over sixty million people, making it the deadliest conflict in human history. The war ended with an Allied victory .

Names & words like Adolf Hitler,Nagasaki, Normandy, the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, Nazi, Adolph Eichmann, Rudolf Hess Auchwitz, , Iwa Jima, Atomic Bomb all bring sharp memories and often tears to those who lived through the time & bring images of a sad history for those of us who followed. .

Some 63 million people, or 3% of the world population, died in the war (though estimates vary): about 24 million soldiers and 38 million civilians. This total includes the estimated 9 million lives lost in the Holocaust. Of the total deaths in World War II, approximately 80% were on the Allied side and 20% on the Axis side.

Allied forces suffered approximately 17 million military deaths, of which about 11 million were Soviet and 3 million Chinese. Axis forces suffered about 8 million, of which more than 5 million were German. In total, of the military deaths in World War II, approximately 44% were Soviet soldiers, 22% were German, 12% were Chinese, 8% were Japanese, 9% were soldiers of other Allied forces, and 5% were other Axis country soldiers. Some modern estimates double the number of Chinese casualties originally stated. Of the civilian deaths, approximately 90% were Allied (nearly a third of all civilians killed were Soviet citizens, and more than 15% of all civilians killed in the war died in German extermination camps) and 10% were Axis.

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Many civilians died as a result of disease, starvation, massacres, genocide--in particular, the Holocaust--and aerial bombing. One estimate is that 12 million civilians died in Holocaust camps, 1.5 million by bombs, 7 million in Europe from other causes, and 7.5 million in China from other causes.[7] Allied civilian deaths totaled roughly 38 million, including 11.7 million in the Soviet Union, 7 million in China and 5.2 million from Poland. There were around 3 million civilian deaths on the Axis side, including 2 million in Germany and 0.6 million in Japan. The Holocaust refers to the organized state-sponsored murder of 6 million Jews, 1.8-1.9 million non-Jewish Poles, 200,000-800,000 Roma people, 200,000-300,000 people with disabilities, and other groups carried out by the Nazis during the war.

The Soviet Union suffered by far the largest death toll of any nation in the war, over 23 million. The Holocaust was the organized murder of an estimated nine million people, including approximately six million Jews. Originally, the Nazis used killing squads known as Einsatzgruppen to conduct massive open-air killings, shooting as many as 33,000 people in a single massacre, as in the case of Babi Yar. By 1942, the Nazi leadership decided to implement the Final Solution, or Endlösung, the genocide of all Jews in Europe, and to increase the pace of the Holocaust. The Nazis built six extermination camps specifically to kill Jews. Millions of Jews who had been confined to massively overcrowded ghettos were transported to these "Death-camps", in which they were either slaughtered on arrival or put to work until the Nazis could find no more use for them, at which point they were put to death by shooting or mass poisoning in gas chambers. .

In a short presentation such as this no attempt will be made to do a depth study of this war but rather to provide some links for those with an interest to know more.

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WW2 time line

WW 2 Europe

WW2 Pacific Timeline

Eyewitness to History WW2

Pacific Naval Battles

Wikipedia – WW2

Mini Biographies of Military & Political Leaders

Best of History Websites

Voices of WW2




The magnificent World War II Memorial Official Site was dedicated on May 29th of 2004, but this wonderful memorial cannot be shared with most WW II Veterans here in Ohio or elsewhere. They are now in their 80s to 90s.

The majority are on limited, fixed incomes, lack help. A twelve-hour bus ride is not an option for these heroes.

According to Veterans Affairs statistics, about 1,200 WW II Veterans die each and every day. The overwhelming majority of them will pass away without ever having an opportunity to visit the memorial they have waited over 60 years to see. We are changing that.



FReeper Warrior Queen works with the Cleveland USO & volunteers now with a remarkable group. Here are some of her comments…. We now fly WW II Veterans, one Saturday a month, in large commercial aircraft to the Washington, DC area. The program is called Honor Flight and the purpose is to fly America’s elderly veterans to visit the memorials dedicated to recognize their service and the sacrifices of their friends.

We are a federal nonprofit (501c3) organization. We are doing everything we can to make this activity FREE for the veterans. Sadly, Honor Flight does not receive any corporate or government sponsorship. We are asking for donations to cover airfare, tour bus services, food, tee shirts, scooter/wheelchair rental, oxygen and operational costs. We’re hoping that, by getting the word out, public support will continue to grow.

The more support we receive, the more veterans finally get to visit their memorial. Over the past two years, we have transported a total of 463 members of “the Greatest Generation.” We are now joined by other programs in North Carolina, Utah, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Illinois. Next year, our combined goal is to fly over 5000 WW II Veterans.




We conduct regular operations out of Dayton and Columbus. We plan to expand to Cleveland in 2007. Round trip, same day flights from Cleveland into Baltimore Washington International (BWI) would cost about $120.00 per seat. We then handle ALL the ground operations/logics from BWI, around Washington DC and back to the airport. We provide a deluxe motor coach, meals, tee shirts, name tags, motorized scooters, oxygen, etc. Our cost is about $50.00 per person.

It is our hope that we will pick up the cost of all ground expenses so that organizations from around the country pay only for their airfare. The cost will be about $120.00 a piece< to make the dreams of hundreds of WWII Veterans from Cleveland come true. Our policy is that the WWII Veterans don't pay a penny. . We will be serving as the "parent" organization to similar programs across the country. Recently we had about 20 people from across the nation that want to learn about how to proceed with an Honor Flight, HonorAir, Hero Flight, etc. program.

An office is opened that is staffed with volunteers to answer the phone, a national toll free number (1 888 FLY-VETS) and a national web site (presently under revision) www.HonorFlight.org. .

Time is NOT on our side. Since early January 2005, thirty-seven World War II veterans on our waiting list have passed away without visiting their memorial. In another 3 to 7 years, almost all WW II Veterans will be gone.

We remain committed to do everything we can to help those surviving veterans view their precious memorial. They are ordinary men and women who collectively and literally saved America and the
world.



If you would like more information or would like to help, please visit our web site at www.HonorFlight.org, email me at HonorFlight@aol.com
or call (937) 864-7261.

Erwin (Earl) Morse, Captain, USAF Retired
Founder of Honor Flight, Inc.
P.O. Box 214
Enon, OH 45323
Phone: 937 864-7261

More Honor Flight Information














Submitted by FReeper Bev ..the Bev in Bevlar; wife of Larry.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1012827/posts He is also registered at: http://www.wwiimemorial.com. The above site is where Freepers paid tribute to him. I cherish this website!!!

Lawrence Fredrick Zacker was born in Carroll Iowa November 4, 1915. He was 26 years old, married with children on December 7, 1941. The ARMY, NAVY AND MARINES wouldn't take him because he had very flat feet. He quit his job as Used Car Manager at a Los Angeles car dealership and went to work at Northrop building the P-61 Black Widow planes. He was doing his part for the war effort but felt he needed to participate as a soldier/sailor. In the summer of 1942, the United States Merchant Marines took him - flat feet and all after he begged the examining doctor to pass him.

He served in the Atlantic and Pacific theaters during the war years and was "bosun" on a ship off the coast of Normandy June 6, 1994. His service to his country did not go unnoticed and at the end of the war, he was contacted by the US Navy and given the opportunity to enter the Navy as an Ensign. He declined and returned to civilian life but often regretted his decision. He was a true flag waving patriot!!

After returning to civilian life, Larry became a Realtor and lived in Sana Diego for many years. In 1973, he retired and we moved to the mountains of N CA to the little town of Fall River Mills. We received an offer we couldn't refuse - Columbia Helicopters needed a watchman and we would be paid while we literally vacationed in our motor home. All we had to do was look after the helicopter during the evening hours. We traveled with Columbia for 4 years and had the time of our lives. In 1979, we decided to settle down once and for all. We bought a small acreage on the river - just a mile from the ocean on the beautiful north coast of Oregon.

In 1994, he received a special invitation, including a seating badge, to attend the 50 year remembrance of the Normandy invasion. He refused to attend because the draft dodging Bill Clinton was going to be there to strut around.

Larry will always be my hero because I knew his heart. I was Blessed to be his wife. He served his country with pride and honor. Larry died 10/31/03.





MY WAR
by William Barrows


Submitted by FReeper Wheelbarrow. A short excerpt presented here from the essay

FOUND HERE

"…..we pulled into what I thought was Liverpool (but later documents said it was Grenock, Scotland). En route we fought off and sank a German submarine that Hitler had boasted sank us, so when a British search plane came out to find us (or the remains) it was a jubilant dockside welcome that greeted us on arrival.

In England our troop train took us to a camp near North-witch for about a week, then again we were put on a train and taken to Southampton and loaded on assault ships to take us to Utah Beach in France where, like the guys who took the beach head, we had to climb the cliffs to get to the trucks that would take us to the combat area.

In France we traveled on mostly country roads (the German Air Force was still something to worry about, and there was a big German submarine post back behind at St. Nazzaire). We bypassed Paris and eventually wound up near Nancy (the last city of any size we’d encounter), the HQ. of General Patton’s Third Army and my 26th Division. Soon after to the east we were dropped from the trucks and began the march to the “front lines” some 20 miles away….."






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To: weston

thanks for stopping by & your comments and OH YES, a big thumbs up from me for the idea of taking dad ASAP,

The three times I have been there I make it a LONG visit. I walk around & talk to people. There are the "toursists" and also younsters who "walk & casually "look".

THEN THERE ARE THE VETS.. Often with children pushing wheelchairs, or helping them w/canes & walkers. Now & then with spouses.

I talk with them & the kids are very quiet & in awe. It is as if it is sacred grounds.. and to a degree it is. A memorial is for MEMORY.. and MEMORY is made up of memories which to me are sacred & precious.

Many say their dads have NEVER been willing/able to share re: the war, but by being there it opens a floodgate for many & the whole family is boo hoo-ing.

I can't help but think it becomes one of the most poignant interactions of the life of the children/vets. You can normally tell it has happened as eyes are red & women have these black splotches under their eyes ( like foot ball players), where mascara, liner, eyeshadow have melted onto their faces from emotion released


51 posted on 02/06/2007 8:27:59 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali
Thank you Aqua and thanks for the info on your family. Do you have a pix of your dad & maybe do a little write up about him?

His picture is in the Military Monday collage. I've talked about it here so most everyone already knows that he was stationed at different ports along the east coast, worked in the gunnery and not involved in any fighting. He did meet my mother while stationed in Jacksonville, Florida.

Did you see the movie Blood Diamond? VERY graphic movie/violence but a story that needs to be out there.

Yes, I did see it and as you say it was very violent. It probably was an agenda movie but did not make me feel responsible for they're sorry behavior.

52 posted on 02/06/2007 8:41:00 AM PST by Aquamarine (Without Victory there will be no Peace.)
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To: GodBlessUSA
This is a dreadful disease. It can be heart aching. I'll be saying prayers for you DIL. I also wanted to say, God Bless your Dad for his service! :)

You're so correct, it is a dreadful disease.
Thanks for all your consideration.

53 posted on 02/06/2007 8:42:57 AM PST by Aquamarine (Without Victory there will be no Peace.)
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To: DollyCali; MEG33; potlatch; The Mayor; ST.LOUIE1; Aquamarine; dutchess; Mama_Bear; Billie; ...



Heroes
 
  Heroes come in different forms,
Some, never known,
Some, remembered forever.
One who looks forward to a fresh days start,
One to trust and respect.
A hero will laugh, a hero will cry,
Through rain, ice, hail or snow,
A hero will be there.

Dani Aronovitz



54 posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:34 AM PST by Lady Jag (A positive attitude will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.)
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To: DollyCali

Good afternoon, Dolly

They allowed people in the fountain? I wouldn't have guessed.

There are some new memorials that I have yet to see. Maybe, once the weather gets a little warmer, but before tourist season, I'll get Hubby to take me up so we can visit a few of them.

I agree with you. I bet that memorial is beautiful at night.


55 posted on 02/06/2007 9:13:59 AM PST by beachn4fun (Just who funds those protests, anyway? Hmmmm?)
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To: DollyCali

Yes, I am spoiled. Having been in OK over the weekend and freezing my kiester off...I am glad for the warm sun! LOL!


56 posted on 02/06/2007 9:17:26 AM PST by LUV W (The War On Terror--not a clash between civilizations....it is a clash ABOUT civilization--Rush L.)
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To: DollyCali

Good morning DollyCali. You have started me thinking about my dad, step dad and FIL.

My dad, Ray, was in Panama running radar during the war. It wasn't really bad duty, as my mom and older sister were allowed to go to Panama with him.

As far as I knew, neither my Father in law, Walter nor my step dad, Jim were in the armed services. Then, 4 years ago, shortly before he died, we found out that my father in law worked on the Manhattan Project (his 2nd wife blabbed) We were astonished and asked him about it. The only thing he ever said to us was "that's secret". That is literally the only two words he ever said about it.

We went back home, and talked about how amazing it was. Told my step dad all about it, and how he had never said a word.

Last September my step dad Jim died. His brother, while we were at the funeral, told us that Jim had worked on the Manhattan Project. I was flabbergasted!!! The snot never said a word to me, even when I was talking about my FIL!

Those guys knew how to keep a secret.


57 posted on 02/06/2007 9:25:41 AM PST by Grammy
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To: beachn4fun
I don't know if the policy has changed since I was in water. That was just after dedication as I said. The subsequent two times I was there it was VERY COLD & so no one in water, wading, etc.

The Korean memorial is NOT new nor is the FDR but both are very impressive and worth seeing. All the memorials are relatively close proximity & can be walked in an afternoon.

It has been decades since I have walked to top of Washington Monument. So often it has scaffolding on it for one project or another & not sure it is open then. I want to go back up that one again.

58 posted on 02/06/2007 9:41:57 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Grammy
Men often do a better job at keeping a secret I have observed over the years. Yours is a great story ..esp about your step dad's closed mouth even after you talking about FIL.. amazing.

I cant help wonder if it had to do with secrecy (it was well after declassification, I would guess) or maybe rather embarrassment that so many were killed from bomb...etc. Not all say "war is war" as we well know. They may have thought it better to say nothing than chance the assault/scrutiny they might receive from others

Here is Wikipedia's INFO on the Manhattan Project,

59 posted on 02/06/2007 9:47:36 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali

Thanks for the ping Dolly!

My WWII veteran is no longer with us. My father served 44 months ETO and passed away in August of 2003. He was part of a group of 13 cousins that served in the military starting with WWI and on through Korea.

I don't have a photo to post of him that I know of. I'll have to look through a bunch of disks to see.


60 posted on 02/06/2007 10:06:42 AM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: swmobuffalo

wow, 13 cousins who served! a great family of patriots! God Bless the memory of your dad for those who treasured his life!


61 posted on 02/06/2007 10:47:00 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali
Thanks for the post Dolly, You're awesome and so is this thread!! Thanks also to our Fearless FReepers who gave me a good life in a Free country. I'm sad to say that my father and uncles served in WWII but I never thanked them. They didn't talk about their service much and I was too young and stupid to ask. They're all gone now, and I found out too late about their suffering and sacrifices.

My father was the youngest son and he enlisted at age 17. Since his brothers, my uncles, all saw combat the Army gave him an assignment as a clerk with the 523 Army Air Corps.


On my mother's side, her oldest brother Pat was a tank driver in Patton's 3rd Army. Her other brother, Uncle Joe, joined up with his best friend Frank on the buddy system and saw heavy fighting together. They were in the Battle of the Bulge, Frank got hit and died in Uncle Joe's arms. Uncle Joe never got over it and always kept a photo of Frank with him. Frank is laid to rest in Luxembourg:
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Frank J. Chmura

ID: 33432841
Entered the Service From: Pennsylvania
Rank: Private First Class

Service: U.S. Army, 328th Infantry Regiment, 26th Infantry Division

Died: Sunday, December 31, 1944
Buried at: Luxembourg American Cemetery
Location: Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
Plot: B Row: 7 Grave: 54

Awards: Purple Heart
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Sometime in the 1970s Uncle Joe went back to Europe and had his photo taken at the cemetery holding onto Frank's headstone. My cousin told me this story after Uncle Joe died, and also that she kept her promise to have a Cross of Lorain burried with Uncle Joe. I was awestruck hearing how these men in my family, who always seemed like just regular guys, endured so much pain, sacrificed so much, and then never acted like it was a big deal, left this world and I knew almost nothing of their bravery. It's in their honor that I got involved in HonorFlight.org;
I'm blessed to have the chance to say Thank You and make up in a small way for the chances I missed with my own family.
I strongly encourage people to help out this very worthy organization!!
62 posted on 02/06/2007 11:10:51 AM PST by Warrior_Queen ("The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing")
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To: DollyCali
I think these men just set their minds to the fact that this project was secret, and that was it. Even when we told my FIL that books had been published and it was all in the open he wouldn't say a word. The sad part is I don't know what they did, other than in general terms.

My FIL was a ceramic engineer, and I believe was in NY doing research, perhaps with GE. I think his research was in how to keep glass bonded with wires even when the temperature differences wanted to make them separate.

My step dad was in telecommunications his whole career (started with Western Electric and at the end it was AT&T) so I don't have a clue what he did. I only know he was in New Mexico for a long period of time, and had a PO box for mail and got to call his wife at a specific time every week. That I know because his brother told us.

I wish they would have told us so we could have some history recorded. Even if they hadn't told us the work they were doing, at least they could have told us the conditions they lived in and the mood of the country then.
63 posted on 02/06/2007 11:40:09 AM PST by Grammy
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To: DollyCali
Awesome Thread, Dolly! My Heart is Thankful to Everyone who has Sacrificed So Much for our Country.


64 posted on 02/06/2007 11:50:18 AM PST by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!)
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To: GodBlessUSA

That is now my favorite rose!! Thank you, Gracie.


65 posted on 02/06/2007 12:11:30 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: La Enchiladita

Hi darlin!

aren't the roses beautiful?

I never really had a favorite rose but found myself drawn to those with some orange, & with the different textures.


66 posted on 02/06/2007 12:24:01 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali

Terrific Dolly! Thank you.


67 posted on 02/06/2007 12:24:34 PM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
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To: Warrior_Queen

oh my what a touching story about your Uncle Joe and his good friend Frank. my eyes teared up reading it & especially about the holding onto Franks gravestone when he visited again the area. If I ever get there (and I hope to) I will go to the grave & take the pix. This thread is for such remembrances & to keep those special people who would otherwise slip into obscurity as a real life person with real life stories.

It is such a shame that the love/friendship men share has to be vulgarized much too often with the liberal mindset.

I am sure your uncle felt part of his life slip away along with Franks. When you truly connect with someone you do merge in a way with mind, energy vitality etc..

thanks for sharing & glad you enjoyed the thread. I will FReepmail or email you later with some "thoughts" along the way.

Right now I need to do some "chores" here & catch a little sleep if possible, as I was up until about 5 last night & got up about 9 this AM


68 posted on 02/06/2007 12:46:17 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Temple Owl

Thank you

any war stories on your end?


69 posted on 02/06/2007 12:46:46 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Kitty Mittens

Thanks Kitty.. I agree. we take all for granted.. even those of us who CLAIM TO "GET IT" we truly cant even begin to grasp all the sacrifices the men & women have given over the years.


70 posted on 02/06/2007 12:49:36 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Lady Jag

Oh, thank you so much for pinging me to this LJ! You know how I love Yorkies. What a wonderful story and photo!


71 posted on 02/06/2007 1:03:03 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks for the "wee hour" bumps.

so do you have some relatives with "stories" of WW2?


72 posted on 02/06/2007 1:06:18 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Heart of Georgia; potlatch; Temple Owl; Kitty Mittens; Jemian; bevlar




FReeper Heart of Georgia” buried her dad yesterday. He was a WW2 vet & she asked me to put something in regarding him. Here is the thread where she posted re: his passing & I have lifted various things from this thread for her tribute to him. He was her “dad” but he was more importantly her “hero”



My dad is Tech. Sgt. Burlin Ray Delaney,
July 12, 1927 --- February 1, 2007
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In looking through Dad’s military papers, I came across his discharge papers from the Army and Air Force. He served in the Army for two years, then transferred to the Air Force, where he served for the next 20 years. Anyway, I was reading the back of his Army discharge papers and couldn’t help but notice his accomplishments - in two short years of service:

33. DECORATIONS AND CITATIONS
EAME Theater Ribbon with 1 Bronze Star; Good Conduct Ribbon.



Also found this letter and wanted to share it with you. I'm sure all of the brave men and women received this letter, but I treasure it because it's from the White House, signed by the president in blue ink, paying tribute to those who deserved so much more.


(The seal of the President of the United States of America at center)

STAFF SERGEANT DELANEY

To you who answered the call of your country and served in its Armed Forces to bring about the total defeat of the enemy, I extend the heartfelt thanks of a grateful Nation. As one of the Nation’s finest, you undertook the most severe task one can be called upon to perform. Because you demonstrated the fortitude, resourcefulness and calm judgment necessary to carry out the task, we now look to you for leadership and example in further exalting our country in peace.

Harry S. Truman
THE WHITE HOUSE



The service is behind us --- it was a wonderful tribute to a man so deserving, who is loved by everyone who knew him. The flag covering my dad was a beautiful reminder to me of the great sacrifice our heros make every day. We sang all the verses to "Amazing Grace" (a cappella), and since George Beverly Shea was my dad's favorite gospel singer, a recording of "I'd Rather Have Jesus" was played.

The minister spoke of Dad's life, and he read out of the New Testament that Dad carried with him during the wars. My dad gave me that little Bible when I was around 10 years old. He told me he had read it through, and that it was what kept him. On the inside back cover, he's written just like this:

P.F.C. HOWARD O. ROYAL
LIVED IN SYCALAUGA
ALABAMA

He was in the foxhole when his buddy was killed. He made some sort of a ring out something of his. My mom says it was his mess kit, but I don't remember what Dad said about it. Anyway, with all the moving around you have to do in military life, the ring was lost.

The minister also spoke of the foundations of this country, laid by our forefathers, of Judeo-Christian beliefs, and that they shouldn't be taken lightly.

Below are the lyrics to a song that my dear friend Kay sang just as beautifully as Janet Paschal does it:


Another Soldier's Coming Home,
written/composed by Janet Paschal

His back is bent and weary
His voice is tired and low
His sword is worn from battle
And his steps have gotten slow
But he used to walk on water
Or it seemed that way to me
I know he moved some mountains
And never left his knees

Chorus
Strike up the band
Assemble the choir
Another soldier's coming home
Another warrior hears the call he's waited for so long
He'll battle no more
But he's won his wars
Make sure Heaven's table has room for at least one more
Sing a welcome song
Another soldier's coming home

Verse 2
He faced the winds of sorrow
But his heart knew no retreat
He walked in narrow places
Knowing Christ knew no defeat
But now his steps turn homeward
So much closer to the prize
He's sounding kind of homesick
And there's a longing in his eyes.

Chorus
Strike up the band
Assemble the choir
Another soldier's coming home
Another warrior hears the call he's waited for so long
He'll battle no more
But he's won his wars
Make sure Heaven's table has room for at least one more
Sing a welcome song
Another soldier's coming home…


My dad will be cremated today, and interment will be at the new National Cemetary in Canton, Georgia. Dad will receive full military honors there on Wednesday, February 7, at 1100.

I want to thank everyone for your prayers for strength, your encouragement, and especially for the honor you've shown my dad. God bless you all.

Heart of Georgia


73 posted on 02/06/2007 1:09:14 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali

Most excellent Dolly! Thanks for doing this. I so appreciate all this generation did for us, & just hope that we don't mess up what we've inherited.


74 posted on 02/06/2007 1:09:32 PM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: DollyCali; NicknamedBob; Robert A. Cook, PE

Can anyone recommend a good all round book on WW2?


75 posted on 02/06/2007 1:57:12 PM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: The Mayor

Thank you, Mayor.


76 posted on 02/06/2007 1:59:35 PM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: All

May God protect your precious ones...






Our Dear Father, creator and Lord of great love - we ask that you keep the men and women of our military in Your protective care. May the families be immersed with peace and comfort as they proudly know their loved ones are serving for the things that are dear to all of us. AMEN



Following are names of some of our FReepers' loved ones who are serving our country. If you have someone you would like to add, please address a post to


Billie; Dutchess; DollyCali;
The Mayor; GodBlessUSA; Aquamarine


jackv...............................Son
gator girl........................husband
severa............husband, brother
Maigrey.........................cousin
mystery-ak...........son, husband
Inspectorette.......................son
Blessed American..........nephew
Slip18..........................nephew
Diver Dave........niece, nephew
ConspiracyGuy........2 nephews
Pippin............niece's husband
sneakers..........................son
weldgophardline.................son
weldgophardline.....brotherinlaw
jamaly.................brotherinlaw
Future Snake Eater.......cousin
WaterDragon............grandson
WaterDragon...........son-in-law
kimmie7......................brother
LadyX (RIP)..............grandson
fawn796......................nephew
ValerieUSA..................2 sons
Lakeside......................2 sons
LakeLady....................nephew
Spruce......................daughter
Bykrbayb..........................son
Leofl.................................son
chena...............................son
Hope and Glory..................son
TheMayor...............friends'son
Doug from Upland.......soninlaw
homeschoolmama........nephew
ariamne...................2 cousins
mhking.........................cousin
911angelady.................2 sons
Consort.................2 daughters
Consort...................son-in-law
gonzo...................friend's son
Jen's Mom.................daughter
Meg33......................grandson
cookcounty......................son
JFC............................nephew
visualops......................cousin
auboy..........................cousin
painter........................nephew
jrushing.............................son
LoneRedRanger...brother-in-law
Ladysmith.nephew, friend's son
tina07......soninlaw & his friend
MontanaCowgirlCop......brother
nelibeli........................nephew
Misty4jc.....................husband
Colorado Slim..............nephew
Tapatio....................2 nephews
ProudAFDad......................son
Alouette.............................son
Katydidnt...........................son
Zechariah_8_13....brother-in-law
Zechariah_8_13.............cousin
PreviouslyA-Lurker........brother
sheeza.......................husband
kemathen7..................husband
Q6-God..................twin brother
Q6-God....................active duty
Warrior Nurse...........active duty
SK1 Thurman...........active duty
David Osborne..........active duty
fc2tomschermuly......active duty
bkwells....................active duty
LongCut...................active duty
cjk...........................active duty
Trish........................active duty
ODC-GIRL................active duty
AF_Blue...................active duty
thumperusn..............active duty
Veloxherc.................active duty
Don Simmons...........active duty
wingnutx...................active duty
CGblue.....................active duty
bigghurtt...................active duty
frankiep....................active duty
veeceeque................active duty
JRios1968................active duty
NoLongerFreeState...active duty
CMS........................active duty
AlaskaErik...............active duty
JemiansTerror...........active duty
tongue-tied ..............active duty
txradioguy................active duty
OhioWfan................................son
ladtx..................................2 sons
Its_me_K.E.T.........................son
Hostel............................cousin
MozartLover...........son, nephew
ak_daddoo........................nephew
Dubya............................nephew
LBGA (RIP)..........................son
katykelly..............................son
Armymarinemom................3 sons
american_ranger.....................son
Himyar....................................son
SpookBrat........................nephew
SpookBrat........................cousin
boxerblues........................2 sons
the piper..............................son
Tiffee4Bob......................boyfriend
TexKat.......................son, step-son
StarCMC.............................brother
Darheel...............................niece
Donaeus...........................nephew
BeAllYouCanBe........................son
Repubmommy........................brother
AgThorn................................2 sons
kneezles.................................son
RoseinRoseBear.....cousin's hubby
Atomic Conspiracy......half-brother
Atomic Conspiracy...........nephew
Atomic Conspiracy..............niece
Sunflowergal....................grandson
mrstank..............................husband
MrsMike31........................husband
spotbust1............................husband
campfollower............................fiance
LUV W........................................son
SilentServiceCPOWife........husband
DirtyHarryY2K......................daughter
DirtyHarryY2K................son-in-law
Skimask.....................................son
Palladin...............................grandson
MississippyMuddy...................sister
MississippyMuddy........2 nephews
Kramster...............................stepson
Socratic.............................nephew
freema.......................nephew, son
Azbushgal..............................son
kimmykay.................................son
NavySEAL F-16........................son
repubmom...............................son
wolfcreek..........................daughter
JesseJane ...........................cousin
Roses0508..............................son
pmmd81..................................son
SoldiersPrayingMom.................son
WakeUpandVote..................brother
Skyraider.................................son
CyberAnt...........................nephew
mrs tiggywinkle...................cousin
Nadine...............................nephew
U S Army EOD.................daughter
thehumanlynx...........brother-in-law
Earthdweller......................nephew
Scubachick.......................husband
ChairmanDec19thSociety ..brotherinlaw
Anthem............................2 cousins
meanie monster .........family friend
PragmaticWarrior..........2 nephews
Sageb1...........................3 cousins
JulieRNR21.........friend's grandson
SuzyQue...mom,2 sons,3 brothers
weeder1...........................nephew
IndyPendance..daughter,soninlaw
fatima.....................granddaughter
Lori from Long Island....soninlaw
monkeyface...................grandson
redhead...................grandnephew
gonzo............................soninlaw
varina davis...................grandson
Rivendell.......................daughter
W.W.Smith...........................son
vigilante2.....son, adopted soldier
NavySEAL F-16....................son
Jaxter...........................son-in-law
USMCWife6869..............husband
AgThorn & Lily4Jesus.............son
2ndDivisionVet..........brotherinlaw
2ndDivVet.....former stepdaughter
GrandEagle........................friend
DebWisconsin.................nephew
Anne of DC............niece’s, husband


77 posted on 02/06/2007 2:00:22 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker; LS
Can anyone recommend a good all round book on WW2?

maybe LS can help

78 posted on 02/06/2007 2:01:51 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali

Thank you for the ping.


79 posted on 02/06/2007 2:03:03 PM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: DollyCali; GodBlessUSA

Yes, dear Dollykins. I also like roses with an apricot or peachy hue....ooooohhhhh......

Let's see, you might like Arizona Sunset. Can't post photos from here, maybe later.

The new Laura Bush rose is an orange-y color, I think.

Later, gals. Work is nutsy.


80 posted on 02/06/2007 2:51:18 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: DollyCali
Prayers for Freeper, Heart of Georgia


81 posted on 02/06/2007 2:53:34 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: DollyCali
Wonderful thread dolly. Will try to post my WWII vet. dad's picture tomorrow with a little background. What's special is he (in the beginning throws of Alzheimer's) and mom went on a senior bus trip to the WWII memorial shortly after it opened and a few months before mom died suddenly.

Can't hang out today...dad fell getting out of his chair...is fine but shook up and needs a little extra TLC. (plus we're in the throws of a serious snow!!!) ((((dolly))))) ((((WWII vets. and families))))
82 posted on 02/06/2007 2:56:31 PM PST by dutchess
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To: dutchess

Sorry about your dad falling...glad he wasn't hurt badly. Am I correct that your mom visited the World War II Memorial and not long after that she died unexpectedly? That is so sad. I am sorry and send my love and sympathies to you and your family.


83 posted on 02/06/2007 3:11:23 PM PST by jaycee (Just looking for a tagline)
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To: GodBlessUSA

That is one of the most beautiful roses I have ever seen. Just gorgeous!


84 posted on 02/06/2007 3:13:34 PM PST by jaycee (Just looking for a tagline)
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To: dutchess

sorry dad about your dad's falls.. I DO UNDERSTAND THE conflict/concern when that happens & the resulting guilt when we spend to much time away. a balancing act for sure with one's own sanity & also the need to "be there" & be supportive

Looking forward to what you have to be your tribute to your dad. It he "with it" enough to be able to see what you post & the other things with the memorial section?


85 posted on 02/06/2007 3:26:08 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali
Actually, most WW II books are not divided into either Pacific Theater or Europe. For the Pacific, one of the best is Ron Spector, "The Eagle Against the Sun."

Probably a good overview of the European war would be the Time-Life book with Eric Sevareid: "A Time-Life History of WW II,"

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Life-History-WW-World-War/dp/1566199840/sr=1-1/qid=1170805787/ref=sr_1_1/104-6155388-4740709?ie=UTF8&s=books

86 posted on 02/06/2007 3:50:53 PM PST by LS
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To: DollyCali
Actually, most WW II books are not divided into either Pacific Theater or Europe. For the Pacific, one of the best is Ron Spector, "The Eagle Against the Sun." Then there is Martin Gilbert, "The Second World War: A Complete History." Gilbert is indeed thorough, but not the most engaging writer.

Probably a good overview of the European war would be the Time-Life book with Eric Sevareid: "A Time-Life History of WW II,"

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Life-History-WW-World-War/dp/1566199840/sr=1-1/qid=1170805787/ref=sr_1_1/104-6155388-4740709?ie=UTF8&s=books

These should provide a good start.

87 posted on 02/06/2007 3:54:16 PM PST by LS
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To: DollyCali; bevlar
Wonderful thread, Dolly. Thanks.

Bev, it's so nice to know more about your Larry.

88 posted on 02/06/2007 4:08:12 PM PST by lysie
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To: LS

Thank you Larry. Saving your recommendations for future reference. The Time-Life one looks appealing to me


89 posted on 02/06/2007 4:14:30 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali
It he "with it" enough to be able to see what you post & the other things with the memorial section?

No...unfortunately not. He's on "basic essential" mode. It's been a little over two years here now.... until six months ago it was missing mom...his cottage in Michigan. Now it's he loves our dogs and are so glad that he's here with us rarely mentioning mom.

I still remember though when I did a few veterans day threads at the Finest that mom insisted dad look at it to try to engage him and she posted under my name. LOL...freaked me out but I cherish those posts now.

Again, appreciate this wonderful tribute!
90 posted on 02/06/2007 4:16:39 PM PST by dutchess
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To: lysie

Thanks Lysie. Appreciate you stopping by


91 posted on 02/06/2007 4:16:50 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: dutchess

It is sad to see this happen. As much as my dad was taken much to soon to suit me, he was relatively healthy (biked, walked daily at 74) and had a sharp mind.


92 posted on 02/06/2007 4:18:54 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali
It he "with it" enough to be able to see what you post & the other things with the memorial section?

No...unfortunately not. He's on "basic essential" mode. It's been a little over two years here now.... until six months ago it was missing mom...his cottage in Michigan. Now it's he loves our dogs and are so glad that he's here with us rarely mentioning mom.

I still remember though when I did a few veterans day threads at the Finest that mom insisted dad look at it to try to engage him and she posted under my name. LOL...freaked me out but I cherish those posts now.

Again, appreciate this wonderful tribute!
93 posted on 02/06/2007 4:25:53 PM PST by dutchess
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To: Warrior_Queen
Yes, WQ, I am going to pass your info along to our local vet organizations. Maybe I can nudge them to get involved. It's a wonderful thing you are doing. Thank you.

My parents were both involved in war work. My Mom worked at Redstone during the war. It was then an ammunition plant. My Dad worked at Huntsville Arsenal where they made Mustard Gas, etc. Mom was wounded in the explosion of the plant where she worked. The building was demolished and lots of people died. She crawled out alive. I remember that night vividly.

94 posted on 02/06/2007 4:54:50 PM PST by WVNan
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To: DollyCali; Heart of Georgia
You've been in my prayers Heart of Georgia. May God comfort you and your family on your loss.
Will also continue to pray for you aunt.
95 posted on 02/06/2007 4:56:27 PM PST by Aquamarine (Without Victory there will be no Peace.)
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To: DollyCali

070201-N-0336C-005 Atlantic Ocean (Feb. 1, 2007) - Wardroom division officer Ensign Sara McPeek gets an explanation of how things run on the flight deck from one of air department's shooters during flight operations aboard Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is currently underway conducting flight deck certification in the Atlantic Ocean. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Arturo Chavez (RELEASED)


070204-N-5345W-008 Atlantic Ocean (Feb. 4, 2007) - Four T-45 Goshawk trainers from Training Airwing One and Two perform a formation fly-by for the Sailors of Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) after the completion of flight training operations. Truman is currently underway conducting operations in the Atlantic Ocean. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Kristopher Wilson (RELEASED)


070204-N-4010S-088 Pacific Ocean (Feb. 4, 2007) - An AV-8B Night Attack Harrier II, assigned to the “Blacksheep” of Marine Attack Squadron Two One Four (VMA-214), prepares to land on the flight deck of amphibious assault ship USS Essex (LHD 2) during night flight operations off the coast of Okinawa, Japan. U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Ty Swartz (RELEASED)

96 posted on 02/06/2007 4:57:44 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: DollyCali
Nice work on the Prayer Post Dolly, I really like the look of this.
97 posted on 02/06/2007 4:58:35 PM PST by Aquamarine (Without Victory there will be no Peace.)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

I think Ollie North has written a book on WWII.


98 posted on 02/06/2007 4:59:11 PM PST by WVNan
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To: WVNan

Hi Nan, it's good to see you. Hope everything is going well.


99 posted on 02/06/2007 4:59:32 PM PST by Aquamarine (Without Victory there will be no Peace.)
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To: dutchess

I'm so sorry about your Dad, dutchess. I hope he gets along okay. I know it's difficult for you.


100 posted on 02/06/2007 5:01:22 PM PST by WVNan
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